Old Blue: I would guesstimate that the tribal areas of the Pakistan/Afghanistan borders will require garrissoning/patrolling for a generation or more.

When producing for a living starts better than raiding for a living, things will start to change. And when the latter produces nothing but increased poverty, change fast.

Unlike where the Northern Alliance etc held sway, the tribal areas strike me as being rather analgous to our old Plains Indians problem.

At any rate, Afghanistan can no longer be used
as a “privileged sanctuary” and staging area
for organized terrorist groups. That is good enough for me. To carry my above analogy a step farther, the equivalent of Commancheros
can no longer operate there in the unmolested fashion they must have.

NAHN CEE; those socieities that glorify stealing are the ones that regard women as chattel. Those with a work ethic are amenable
to the equality concept. Again, a work ethic comes about once it starts paying better than stealing.

I know I am speaking in “glittering generalities”. However I have no knowledge of any place where these precepts were not in play.