54. buddy larsen
Bless you, you’ve got a ton of patience with the likes of Mags. I’d enjoy giving her a (metaphorical, of course) kick in her bottom that would land her on the moon.
She has access to real information if she wants it. If she feels justified in taking a strong position, it’s up to her to do her homework — About what Israel has been going through since its inception and long before, and, for instance, today, right here on PJM, Allison Sommers has the video showing fire bomb and other attacks on the Israeli sailors. She chooses to remain ignorant because “many people” choose to remain ignorant.
Her opinions are warped and empty because she wants them to be. Mags isn’t looking for anything approaching reason. She either just hates Israel or she wants to feel “cool” and join with the other mindless who fall for the phoney victim claims of the Gazans.
TO: 49. mags
“It is pathetic to claim every critism of Israel is due to anti-semitism.”
Every criticism of Israel? Aw shucks — Every -little, tiny — criticism of Israel?
How about unrelenting and continual bashing and battering of Israel, no matter what the circumstances may show, to the point of Orwellian time-outs for Hatred!
Yes, the hatred of Israel and Jews is Orwellian — that’s why he named the set-up arch villain of the totalitarian, controlling government and the mind controlling media, “Goldstein.” He got it. Idiots … don’t.
How about “cticizing” the flotilla people for pretending to bring “aid” to a Gaza that doesn’t need any (their stores are chock full — plenty of funds for bombs and weapons) — or for not simply allowing the Israelis to search the ship for weapons and materials that could make bombs? How about criticizing the “peaceful activists” for stirring up unnecessary trouble? No, not you. Would you be willing to “criticize” them for attacking the sailors with knives, pipes and firebombs when they were not being attacked by the sailors, but only questioned? Nah.
Did you “criticize” Hamas for murdering their own? Did you “criticize” Hamas for shooting from behind their children? Did you “criticize” suicide bombings in Pizza parlors? How about continual bombing of Sderotfor 8 years? Nothing to see there, not from you.
How about the attack by 5 Arab nations on Israel in 1948, 1967 and 1973? How about the expulsion and confiscation of property of 1 Million Jews from Arab lands in many countries in 1948 and the 50′s — where they had lived for thousands of years? How about murders of those same en masse for nothing — for no reason at all — no stone throwing — no riots — no attacking Arabs — just murder of Jews — just because. After all, the majority wanted to kill them, so it must have been okay. Do you feel the same way about the KKK and the majority in the South that supported them? Of course, you must, because you are so “fair” minded.
And — ignoring — the fact that there were to be population exchanges with the Palestinians — who in those days of openly claiming to want only the destruction of Israel, until they found it more expedient to call themselves Palestinians — said, “Do Not Call Us Palestinians, We Are Arabs!!! Did you criticize that?
Did you know that hundreds of millions of people all over the world were “transferred” and “exchanged land” after the Wars? In India and Pakistan (which was also a “created” country) just for one. In Europe too. Bet you didn’t know that.
Did you “criticize” the Mufti — have you in your ignorance ever heard of the Mufti? — and his Muslim Brotherhood for working with Hitler to build extermination camps for Jews in what was then Palestine — Before There Was An Israel? His philosophy has been handed down to the current Palestinians — did you “criticize” that?
Did you criticize the Arabs for ruining the lives of 3 generations of Palestinians by keeping them in Refugee Camps for 60 years precisely for the purpose of being a thorn in Israel’s side?
How about Arafat’s embezzling $3 billion instead of building up the economy of his people — and instead screaming Jihad! Jihad! Jihad! at them?
Did you “criticize” Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, and some others for keeping Palestinians in their countries in Refugee camps and not allowing them citizenship or normal work — to keep them inflamed about Israel — for three generations!!!
Did you criticize Jordan for killing 20,000 Palestinians during Black September? Or Syria for destroying a town of 30,000 of his own?
Do you have any sympathy for the continually persecuted Christian Copts of Egypt — being killed on their way to worship — having their daughters kidnapped and either raped or married off to Muslims against their will? Having their property and places of worship burned or confiscated? Huh? I don’t hear anything from you.
If you have no sympathy for Jews or Christians, how about Hindus? Let’s skip Mumbai. Here’s a little something for you —
Hindu Man Beaten to Death in Mosque in “Religious Ritual”: “Kill the Kaffir”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/05/man-beaten-to-death-in-mosque-in-religious-ritual-kill-the-kaffir.html
Crickets. Nothing to see here — not from you, you independent thinker, you Mags you.
Did you criticize the Palestinians for raising their children to have nothing in their hearts but hatred for Jews and to want to become suicide bombers? Did you criticize Palestinian TV for raising their children and destroying their spirits with programs where characters dressed up as bunnies want nothing but murder and dead Jews? Then to question the children and lead them to write wonderful poems about killing Jews. Did you “criticize” Iran for sending thousands of their children with a plastic “key to paradise” to run over mine fields during the Iraq-Iran war? By the way, did you “criticize” Iran for murdering and raping their own people during the protests after the rigged election? How about Iranian Nukes? Like them? Do you think you are safe from them? Hahahahaha. Nothing from you. Crickets.
What else do you consider “every little criticism?”
Did you “criticize” the Palestinians for not having the slightest care about “land” or a “state” — but that their main objection is that there are non-Muslims governing themselves in their midst living free and not under Shari’a as Dhimmis — do you even know what a Dhimmi is — are you that ignorant? And worst of all JEWS!! And especially doing well! Being productive and creating a democracy where Arabs have more rights than anywhere in the Muslim world? Nothing to do with land or a state — nothing at all. Did you criticize them for that?
Did you know, in your ignorance, that there never was a people who called themselves Palestinians except the Jews until 1964? They were Arabs. This is a fact. Yes, they lived in that land — it’s debatable about how many came there and when. (The original people were majority Hebrews and some other locals, Arabs didn’t arrive till the Wars after 700 a.d.)
But they were ruled by the Ottomans for centuries, then the British. Not much noise about a State then. The West Bank was ruled by Jordan from 1948 to 1967, not much noise about a State then.
Did you even know that what they call Arab East Jerusalem had been Jewish majority almost all throughout history — even under the Ottomans — until the 1948 War when Jordan annexed it, “ethnically cleansed” the Jews, and destroyed their holy places — making latine walkways out of ancient headstones? Nah. You didn’t bother to find that out. Too much fun doing a “little bit of criticizing” of Israel — not anti-semitic at all.
Did you know that the land was split up into countries after the fall of the Ottomans? A place for Jordan (never mind the history of that — it’s too complicated for you) — a place for Iraq — Syrian borders, Lebanese borders, and some space of Jews to rule themselves — Jews who had been living there a long, long time already — some for millenia — a tiny space — in vast Muslim lands which they even had been negotiating with the Ottomans and of which they had purchased much swamp land and made into farms — no Muslims were required to leave — they could have their own space. No one even had to move. But no. Muslims didn’t want Jews ruling themselves. They chose war. They continue it with your help. (Really, it isn’t good to remain ignorant — even if there is a great majority who choose to do so. Educate yourself — it’ll be good for you — unless you just hate Jews — well, then, never mind — ignorance is best for you — knowledge might disturb your sense of self-importance.)
Maybe if you criticized the madness of the Palestinians and Muslims, stopped sending them money for arms, stopped inciting them further, they would calm down, turn their energy to being productive and creating decent, wholesome lives — and instead of their perpetual violence dressed as phoney calls for peace, just stop making war on Israel. Maybe if you did that. Actually, likely if you did that. But no, you have too much invested in death — which you call “peace.” (Here’s Orwell again.)
It’s your fault, and people like you, even more than the Palestinians, that there is so much trouble and violence there. Yes, it’s specifically your fault. You are responsible for the deaths and wars. You support it because it’s “cool.”
I live right here in the U.S. Last January, about 500 Muslims of various nationalities, gathered on the streets 15 minutes from my home — screaming — “Death to All Jews! Go Back to the Ovens!” This was happening all over the U.S. It hardly made YOUR mainstream media. Did you “criticize” that?
In France, there’s a very popular Comic named Dieudonne — he ran for President — all of whose shows are openly anti-semitic — with some Jewish character wearing a Jewish Star humiliated. Brings lots of laughs and applause. This kind of humor was very popular in Germany in the 30′s and 40′s. Gee, just like the ole minstrel shows.
Also, in France these days, just for instance, Jews have been murdered on the streets, violently murdered, kidnapped and murdered — and the French are very reluctant to call them anti-semitic acts. (Orwell wins again.) In one case, a 21 year old boy was kidnapped, Ilan Halimi, and tortured for 3 weeks in an apartment building where all the neighbors could hear his screams — no one reported it because they knew he was a … — they cut off various parts of his body, burned him, and finally killed him. The kidnappers called the family and wanted money, because “Jews are Rich.” But the French were loathe to call it anti-semitism. The killers have almost all been tried, found “insane” and gotten off after a short time.
All over Europe, Jewish cemeteries and holy places have been defaced, Jews have to hide their identity (they have been given an “advisory” by the government in Norway, not to wear kippas or any identifying jewelry or clothing) — or be beaten up or killed — with perpetrators, even after capture, largely going free.
Hmmm. No anti-semitism there. I’m sure you’d defend this all. No “criticism” from you.
The reason anti-semitism comes up as the reason for your opinions, is that they are so irrational and counter-factual that there is no other explanation — other than massive and all-encompassing stupidity and deliberate ignorance.
“It’s like saying you disagree with Obama just because he is black (maybe that’s true).”
It’s such a coincidence that you cast those who disagree with Obama’s radical leftist program for this country and the world — as Racists. No, no coincidence. I was just joking, because — It comes from the same stupidity, irrationality and deep bigotry and prejudice on your part. What’s wrong with a little indulgence in Race-Baiting, right? It’s you who clearly are the Racist — to the depths of your heart and soul.
I hope that in your life, on the level of the individual, you find yourself in the same position as Israel — with huge masses of the mindless choosing you as the evil one, when you are innocent — threatening your existence when you are doing what anyone would do to protect themselves — condemning you for it — ganging up on you, claiming that their numbers — the many, many who love to bully and be part of a mindless mob — who can find self-importance and solidarity in hatred — blaming you when others attack and harm you — and nowhere to turn. I hope that for you. It might save your spirit from the contaminated rotpit it is now.
Then maybe you’ll regret what you are supporting, and shut up.
