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		<title>By: Mongoose</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/30/lunatics/#comment-82912</link>
		<dc:creator>Mongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i found this right entertaining:


http://www.escapefromdubai.com/

If he is to be believed, this gentleman strapped on a SEAL style, shallow water insertion rebreather and just swam out of Dubai underwater, after taking out the engine of the harbor patrol&#039;s only pursuit boat.  Evidently had a buddy pick him up off shore in a yacht, sailed to India and then flew back to the States. 

He was extremely well connected to the royals there too. He must have been facing BIG trouble.

Pretty funny. He looks to have spent some time in his youth with the French special forces/Intel community.  If he actually did what he says he did then I believe it. That sort of diving with gear like that is not for the fainthearted, particularity in middle age.

He claims that he wore the rebreather under a burka as he left his hotel and headed for the gulf.

Amazing tale, and perhaps prophetic.

Talk about being underwater on your debt. Too Funny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i found this right entertaining:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.escapefromdubai.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.escapefromdubai.com/</a></p>
<p>If he is to be believed, this gentleman strapped on a SEAL style, shallow water insertion rebreather and just swam out of Dubai underwater, after taking out the engine of the harbor patrol&#8217;s only pursuit boat.  Evidently had a buddy pick him up off shore in a yacht, sailed to India and then flew back to the States. </p>
<p>He was extremely well connected to the royals there too. He must have been facing BIG trouble.</p>
<p>Pretty funny. He looks to have spent some time in his youth with the French special forces/Intel community.  If he actually did what he says he did then I believe it. That sort of diving with gear like that is not for the fainthearted, particularity in middle age.</p>
<p>He claims that he wore the rebreather under a burka as he left his hotel and headed for the gulf.</p>
<p>Amazing tale, and perhaps prophetic.</p>
<p>Talk about being underwater on your debt. Too Funny</p>
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		<title>By: Al_Batross</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/30/lunatics/#comment-82898</link>
		<dc:creator>Al_Batross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The point about minarets is that they are an explicitly triumphalist device.&quot; Lifeofthemind@16. 

Exactly ! We need to remember Erdoğan&#039;s quoting of Gökalp&#039;s poem:

&quot;The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers&quot; .

The Islamists and their dhimmi tools understand this all too well, hence their outrage at this show of resistence.
I earnestly hope that the Swiss will stick firm on this, and not back down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The point about minarets is that they are an explicitly triumphalist device.&#8221; Lifeofthemind@16. </p>
<p>Exactly ! We need to remember Erdoğan&#8217;s quoting of Gökalp&#8217;s poem:</p>
<p>&#8220;The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers&#8221; .</p>
<p>The Islamists and their dhimmi tools understand this all too well, hence their outrage at this show of resistence.<br />
I earnestly hope that the Swiss will stick firm on this, and not back down.</p>
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		<title>By: Wednesday Highlights &#124; Pseudo-Polymath</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/30/lunatics/#comment-82849</link>
		<dc:creator>Wednesday Highlights &#124; Pseudo-Polymath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Two thoughts on Dubai, here and here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vilmos</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/30/lunatics/#comment-82804</link>
		<dc:creator>Vilmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; We live in strange times. Yahoo reports that a Japanese gamer
&gt; liked his virtual girlfriend so much he married her for real

Somewhere I feel very sorry for these guys.

http://failblog.org/2009/11/27/girlfriend-fail/

Vilmos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; We live in strange times. Yahoo reports that a Japanese gamer<br />
&gt; liked his virtual girlfriend so much he married her for real</p>
<p>Somewhere I feel very sorry for these guys.</p>
<p><a href="http://failblog.org/2009/11/27/girlfriend-fail/" rel="nofollow">http://failblog.org/2009/11/27/girlfriend-fail/</a></p>
<p>Vilmos</p>
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		<title>By: wws</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/30/lunatics/#comment-82773</link>
		<dc:creator>wws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what&#039;s being missed so far are the possible broader consequences of a default, if it&#039;s happened.  British banks have always been heavily involved with the Emirates and are believed to hold a large proportion of this debt, although I don&#039;t know of any site where I can find specific numbers about this.  

The British banks are pretty well tapped out after surviving the Iceland fiasco, and Brown&#039;s government is no no shape to prop them up yet again.  If this debt does go into default, then one or more major UK banks could get taken down, and with that the entire banking crisis that we thought was averted a year ago is back up and running all over again.  

Btw, Greece is getting very close to defaulting on its sovereign debt as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what&#8217;s being missed so far are the possible broader consequences of a default, if it&#8217;s happened.  British banks have always been heavily involved with the Emirates and are believed to hold a large proportion of this debt, although I don&#8217;t know of any site where I can find specific numbers about this.  </p>
<p>The British banks are pretty well tapped out after surviving the Iceland fiasco, and Brown&#8217;s government is no no shape to prop them up yet again.  If this debt does go into default, then one or more major UK banks could get taken down, and with that the entire banking crisis that we thought was averted a year ago is back up and running all over again.  </p>
<p>Btw, Greece is getting very close to defaulting on its sovereign debt as well.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/30/lunatics/#comment-82732</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>walt/5 --LOLOL -snappy, man, snappy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>walt/5 &#8211;LOLOL -snappy, man, snappy!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Rodrigo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/30/lunatics/#comment-82712</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Rodrigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Triana&quot; supposedly came out of a dream Al Gore woke up from at 3:00 am one day (what&#039;s up with 3:00 am, anyway?). That&#039;s what kind of a ditz the almost-President is. When I heard that anecdote and saw it taken seriously, I began to realize that one needn&#039;t be a crank to believe that the elite had corrupted the system you and I pay for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Triana&#8221; supposedly came out of a dream Al Gore woke up from at 3:00 am one day (what&#8217;s up with 3:00 am, anyway?). That&#8217;s what kind of a ditz the almost-President is. When I heard that anecdote and saw it taken seriously, I began to realize that one needn&#8217;t be a crank to believe that the elite had corrupted the system you and I pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Aurelius</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/30/lunatics/#comment-82695</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Aurelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing is for sure -- the locals in the UAE don&#039;t lose. They will change the rules in mid-game if that is what it takes.

One story I heard and frequently tell is that of a guy who purchased a lottery ticket at a shopping mall -- with a grand prize of a car. Dude&#039;s number comes up, he goes to claim his prize and the mall tells him they don&#039;t have the car he&#039;ll have to accept a cash prize. Dude doesn&#039;t like it and a squabble ensues. Eventually it winds up in court and the ruling is that gambling is illegal in the UAE Dude gets the ticket purchase price back.

As far as those lenders who may get stuck on loans gone wild -- well they may get enough back to purchase a lotto ticket.

Even in the little backwater town I lived in (actually it wasn&#039;t all that backwater but even in comparison Abu Dhabi is backwater when stacked up to Dubai -- Al-Ain more so) the cranes were as common as camels. When I would return from summer vacation DXB would look markedly different and especially Al-Ain (however, Al-Ain is in Abu Dhabi) from when I left with new projects starting up all over.

The UAE government is very pro-Western however, that does not always translate at the citizen level. One rich UAE family (by UAE standards) and commercial group (I owned a car dealt by them) I have heard is a monetary supporter of AQ -- perhaps extorted but none-the-less after I heard the rumor I did not like the notion I had patronized this commercial group and sliver of my sweat may have financed Atta. This was something I did not hear until after I left the UAE.

What would be interesting is to watch the internal politics of this (of course not an open thing). There is a rivalry between Dubai &amp; Abu Dhabi. In fact, a widely discussed rumor was that that rivalry nearly got HOT back in the &#039;80s. DXB prevailed in that one and set the stage for them becoming the place to be in the UAE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is for sure &#8212; the locals in the UAE don&#8217;t lose. They will change the rules in mid-game if that is what it takes.</p>
<p>One story I heard and frequently tell is that of a guy who purchased a lottery ticket at a shopping mall &#8212; with a grand prize of a car. Dude&#8217;s number comes up, he goes to claim his prize and the mall tells him they don&#8217;t have the car he&#8217;ll have to accept a cash prize. Dude doesn&#8217;t like it and a squabble ensues. Eventually it winds up in court and the ruling is that gambling is illegal in the UAE Dude gets the ticket purchase price back.</p>
<p>As far as those lenders who may get stuck on loans gone wild &#8212; well they may get enough back to purchase a lotto ticket.</p>
<p>Even in the little backwater town I lived in (actually it wasn&#8217;t all that backwater but even in comparison Abu Dhabi is backwater when stacked up to Dubai &#8212; Al-Ain more so) the cranes were as common as camels. When I would return from summer vacation DXB would look markedly different and especially Al-Ain (however, Al-Ain is in Abu Dhabi) from when I left with new projects starting up all over.</p>
<p>The UAE government is very pro-Western however, that does not always translate at the citizen level. One rich UAE family (by UAE standards) and commercial group (I owned a car dealt by them) I have heard is a monetary supporter of AQ &#8212; perhaps extorted but none-the-less after I heard the rumor I did not like the notion I had patronized this commercial group and sliver of my sweat may have financed Atta. This was something I did not hear until after I left the UAE.</p>
<p>What would be interesting is to watch the internal politics of this (of course not an open thing). There is a rivalry between Dubai &amp; Abu Dhabi. In fact, a widely discussed rumor was that that rivalry nearly got HOT back in the &#8217;80s. DXB prevailed in that one and set the stage for them becoming the place to be in the UAE.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrasymachus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrasymachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 Whiskey California belies the idea that you can&#039;t screw the middle class indefinitely. People and businesses leave when they are economically pressed but most just shrug it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 Whiskey California belies the idea that you can&#8217;t screw the middle class indefinitely. People and businesses leave when they are economically pressed but most just shrug it off.</p>
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		<title>By: Lifeofthemind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lifeofthemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mosques in Europe and America are often, maybe usually, funded by Saudi Arabia and occasionally Iran. That money is often filtered through banks in the UAE, including in Dubai. Dubai does not pump oil, they pump other people&#039;s money. The logical legal (there&#039;s an oxymoron) way to control subversion by paid agents of the Wahabist regime is through a policy of Reciprocity. Sounds poetic, don&#039;t it? Non-Islamic activities are subject to restriction in a deliberate policy of public humiliation in Islamic countries. Agents of an Islamic regime should be held to the same standards outside of their country that they impose on others domestically. To be truly equal would mean banning the construction of mosques until churches and synagogues are allowed in KSA. Jews are prohibited from setting foot in KSA, maybe the Saudis are afraid they&#039;ll want Yathrib (Medina) back. However let us be more moderate then the Wahabists at the first iteration and only hold them to the standard that the Pact of Omar imposes on &lt;i&gt;dhimmis&lt;/i&gt;. 

The point about minarets is that they are an explicitly triumphalist device. Since they are designed to humiliate non-Muslims and promote a political party on behalf of a totalitarian foreign regime they should be banned. If the Iranians ever enforce the humiliation and identification of non-Muslims by forcing them to mark their clothes with nazi style badges then any agent of the Iranian government, including anyone who takes their money to act as a propagandist, should be similarly identified. 

One result of the Dubai financial crisis is that the supply of money available for Islamic indoctrination and subversion will decline. Islam was an intellectually bankrupt system confined to impoverished backwaters before the infusion of Energy trillions following the discovery of oil in Bahrain in 1932. The Soviet Union was a Third World country, with ICBMs. The Islamic Ummah (as a political project) is an uncreative and oppressive intellectual, economic and moral desert, with vast wealth to prop up its fantasies. If the West had not panicked with the US electing Obama then pro-growth and energy diversification policies would have freed the world from the Islamist yoke. On the one hand Obama&#039;s policies, environmental restrictions on nuclear energy and oil drilling and coal production, are subsidies that empower the Russians, Arabs and Venezuelans. His other policies that cripple and shrink the economy, Health Care and Cap and Trade taxes, reduce competition by the West for energy supplies coveted by China. However the same economic decline by the West destroys the sources of the wealth that the energy suppliers feed off of and destabilizes China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosques in Europe and America are often, maybe usually, funded by Saudi Arabia and occasionally Iran. That money is often filtered through banks in the UAE, including in Dubai. Dubai does not pump oil, they pump other people&#8217;s money. The logical legal (there&#8217;s an oxymoron) way to control subversion by paid agents of the Wahabist regime is through a policy of Reciprocity. Sounds poetic, don&#8217;t it? Non-Islamic activities are subject to restriction in a deliberate policy of public humiliation in Islamic countries. Agents of an Islamic regime should be held to the same standards outside of their country that they impose on others domestically. To be truly equal would mean banning the construction of mosques until churches and synagogues are allowed in KSA. Jews are prohibited from setting foot in KSA, maybe the Saudis are afraid they&#8217;ll want Yathrib (Medina) back. However let us be more moderate then the Wahabists at the first iteration and only hold them to the standard that the Pact of Omar imposes on <i>dhimmis</i>. </p>
<p>The point about minarets is that they are an explicitly triumphalist device. Since they are designed to humiliate non-Muslims and promote a political party on behalf of a totalitarian foreign regime they should be banned. If the Iranians ever enforce the humiliation and identification of non-Muslims by forcing them to mark their clothes with nazi style badges then any agent of the Iranian government, including anyone who takes their money to act as a propagandist, should be similarly identified. </p>
<p>One result of the Dubai financial crisis is that the supply of money available for Islamic indoctrination and subversion will decline. Islam was an intellectually bankrupt system confined to impoverished backwaters before the infusion of Energy trillions following the discovery of oil in Bahrain in 1932. The Soviet Union was a Third World country, with ICBMs. The Islamic Ummah (as a political project) is an uncreative and oppressive intellectual, economic and moral desert, with vast wealth to prop up its fantasies. If the West had not panicked with the US electing Obama then pro-growth and energy diversification policies would have freed the world from the Islamist yoke. On the one hand Obama&#8217;s policies, environmental restrictions on nuclear energy and oil drilling and coal production, are subsidies that empower the Russians, Arabs and Venezuelans. His other policies that cripple and shrink the economy, Health Care and Cap and Trade taxes, reduce competition by the West for energy supplies coveted by China. However the same economic decline by the West destroys the sources of the wealth that the energy suppliers feed off of and destabilizes China.</p>
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