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		<title>By: Lifeofthemind</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/10/06/the-track-of-the-storm/#comment-74992</link>
		<dc:creator>Lifeofthemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;luddy barsen&lt;/b&gt;,
Agreed and thank you. I&#039;m counting on you Buddy. If you went off the deep end we would be in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>luddy barsen</b>,<br />
Agreed and thank you. I&#8217;m counting on you Buddy. If you went off the deep end we would be in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: luddy barsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>luddy barsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/al-groe-and-maurice-strong-con-artists-extordinaire/</description>
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		<title>By: luddy barsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/10/06/the-track-of-the-storm/#comment-74973</link>
		<dc:creator>luddy barsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lotm/184;  that&#039;s about the way i see it too --the URL i posted above is one i just found in a search, and saw as readable and full of five w&#039;s (who what when where why) facts about the history and reach of of the radical green new-age movement. One can read the material without going Gemstone File (the notorious source of CIA as a drug operation, dunno about satanism, only skimmed the first of it to see its nature). 

Point is, some of these big time Earth Day UN transnationalist folks are officials in the new administration. Presidential Science Adviser John Holdren especially has a record of seeing people as problems, as liabilities, as mistakes --see his work with Paul Ehrlich and their ideas about secret population control --and tell me the word &#039;epidemic&#039; doesn&#039;t flash across your mind --as what a select group of mad scientists could engineer if they (LOL!) got ahold of the White House or sumthin.

For contrast regard Ronald Reagan&#039;s message --that a person is an asset, a resource, a producer and consumer who creates virtuous circles of activity that raise the living standards of all --that it takes people to create markets for progress and innovation in handling natural resources. Of course History bears him out --as do the metrics of human welfare --and not to mention that only a richer country will concern itself with environmentalism.

But the one-worlders, new agers, Gaea acolytes, etcetera, they are no laughing matter --we should not let fear of being seen as Lyndon Larouch berserkers keep us from looking at wazzup wit dese birds. If they could put something in the water to sterilize you without you knowing it, they would. --and then you&#039;d be like Group Captain Mandrake, who thought his CO was wrong about the water! 

Anyhoo, read the link --it won&#039;t contaminate yo mind, i promise. and info dissemination is vital. for example, a handful of zealots running tests on 12 trees in Siberia + a directed meme drift thru UN science panels + Al Gore = cap and trade = enslavement of the last great hope of mankind, the USA middle class. And yet a few million people reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/al-groe-and-maurice-strong-con-artists-extordinaire/&quot;&gt;&quot;&gt;stuff like this&lt;/a&gt; would&#039;ve kept Gore from ever elevating himself to sainthood credibility in the first place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotm/184;  that&#8217;s about the way i see it too &#8211;the URL i posted above is one i just found in a search, and saw as readable and full of five w&#8217;s (who what when where why) facts about the history and reach of of the radical green new-age movement. One can read the material without going Gemstone File (the notorious source of CIA as a drug operation, dunno about satanism, only skimmed the first of it to see its nature). </p>
<p>Point is, some of these big time Earth Day UN transnationalist folks are officials in the new administration. Presidential Science Adviser John Holdren especially has a record of seeing people as problems, as liabilities, as mistakes &#8211;see his work with Paul Ehrlich and their ideas about secret population control &#8211;and tell me the word &#8216;epidemic&#8217; doesn&#8217;t flash across your mind &#8211;as what a select group of mad scientists could engineer if they (LOL!) got ahold of the White House or sumthin.</p>
<p>For contrast regard Ronald Reagan&#8217;s message &#8211;that a person is an asset, a resource, a producer and consumer who creates virtuous circles of activity that raise the living standards of all &#8211;that it takes people to create markets for progress and innovation in handling natural resources. Of course History bears him out &#8211;as do the metrics of human welfare &#8211;and not to mention that only a richer country will concern itself with environmentalism.</p>
<p>But the one-worlders, new agers, Gaea acolytes, etcetera, they are no laughing matter &#8211;we should not let fear of being seen as Lyndon Larouch berserkers keep us from looking at wazzup wit dese birds. If they could put something in the water to sterilize you without you knowing it, they would. &#8211;and then you&#8217;d be like Group Captain Mandrake, who thought his CO was wrong about the water! </p>
<p>Anyhoo, read the link &#8211;it won&#8217;t contaminate yo mind, i promise. and info dissemination is vital. for example, a handful of zealots running tests on 12 trees in Siberia + a directed meme drift thru UN science panels + Al Gore = cap and trade = enslavement of the last great hope of mankind, the USA middle class. And yet a few million people reading &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/al-groe-and-maurice-strong-con-artists-extordinaire/&quot;&gt;" rel="nofollow">http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/al-groe-and-maurice-strong-con-artists-extordinaire/&quot;&gt;</a>&#8220;&gt;stuff like this would&#8217;ve kept Gore from ever elevating himself to sainthood credibility in the first place!</p>
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		<title>By: Lifeofthemind</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/10/06/the-track-of-the-storm/#comment-74961</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illuminati conspiracy advocates are Dim Bulbs.

There is a problem when dealing with unstable people prone to fantasies and conspiracy theories, and make no doubt about it hard Leftists are (remember Lenin did pull off a genuine tin hat style conspiracy to overthrow the largest contiguous nation on earth.) The problem is in studying the dysfunctional while remaining objective. Cops face a similar problem. They have to deal with and associate with criminals, the manipulative and the disturbed, without losing their own attachment to reality. Another problem is the need to retain credibility before the public. We have to tease out the real threats from the dysfunctional fantasists on the Left. The latter provide noise in the system that the real threats can use for cover. Among those we hope are on our side we have to consider nuggets of useful information that can be offered by another set of dysfunctional, indeed mirror image, conspiracy theorists. While their motivations may be wrong their results may be important.

Isaac Newton was by some standards a lunatic obsessed with peculiar religious theories and Alchemy. Is it possible that the Illuminati conspiracy theorist can be correct about there being a threat from Maurice Strong and the anti-capitalist connections of Green politics influencing current American policy? Of course they can be right and the information they provide should be tested and applied if found useful, just as Newton&#039;s work is accepted despite his other peculiarities. That does not mean that we need to tolerate theories linking vast networks into conspiracies involving Satanists and the CIA. It is also important that if we refer to any such sources we do so in a very careful way that makes clear that we are considering a specific item from a suspect source. To do otherwise will be to expose ourselves to ridicule.

Is it possible that someone linked to Lyndon Larouche or Ron Paul&#039;s fringe supporters could be right about some threat? Sure it is but I would not trust them unless the information they offered had been very very very carefully inspected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illuminati conspiracy advocates are Dim Bulbs.</p>
<p>There is a problem when dealing with unstable people prone to fantasies and conspiracy theories, and make no doubt about it hard Leftists are (remember Lenin did pull off a genuine tin hat style conspiracy to overthrow the largest contiguous nation on earth.) The problem is in studying the dysfunctional while remaining objective. Cops face a similar problem. They have to deal with and associate with criminals, the manipulative and the disturbed, without losing their own attachment to reality. Another problem is the need to retain credibility before the public. We have to tease out the real threats from the dysfunctional fantasists on the Left. The latter provide noise in the system that the real threats can use for cover. Among those we hope are on our side we have to consider nuggets of useful information that can be offered by another set of dysfunctional, indeed mirror image, conspiracy theorists. While their motivations may be wrong their results may be important.</p>
<p>Isaac Newton was by some standards a lunatic obsessed with peculiar religious theories and Alchemy. Is it possible that the Illuminati conspiracy theorist can be correct about there being a threat from Maurice Strong and the anti-capitalist connections of Green politics influencing current American policy? Of course they can be right and the information they provide should be tested and applied if found useful, just as Newton&#8217;s work is accepted despite his other peculiarities. That does not mean that we need to tolerate theories linking vast networks into conspiracies involving Satanists and the CIA. It is also important that if we refer to any such sources we do so in a very careful way that makes clear that we are considering a specific item from a suspect source. To do otherwise will be to expose ourselves to ridicule.</p>
<p>Is it possible that someone linked to Lyndon Larouche or Ron Paul&#8217;s fringe supporters could be right about some threat? Sure it is but I would not trust them unless the information they offered had been very very very carefully inspected.</p>
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		<title>By: wws</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I confess, I am a member of the Illuminati.

It doesn&#039;t pay nearly as well as you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I confess, I am a member of the Illuminati.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t pay nearly as well as you think.</p>
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		<title>By: luddy barsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>luddy barsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about a Parrot Ox? it can talk and pull a plow too, paradoxically.

These are serious: They&#039;re from 2007 --see if they still make sense --

http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2007/1012.html

http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2007/0831.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about a Parrot Ox? it can talk and pull a plow too, paradoxically.</p>
<p>These are serious: They&#8217;re from 2007 &#8211;see if they still make sense &#8211;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2007/1012.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2007/1012.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2007/0831.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/geo/pastanalysis/2007/0831.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Parrothead Pirates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Parrothead Pirates?</p>
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		<title>By: marymcl</title>
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		<dc:creator>marymcl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@172 ntk

Yeah, whatever. Actually whiskey&#039;s social determinist theorizing is a mirror image of the thing he&#039;s always ax-grinding about. Just like his uber-feminist counterparts, he conflates the personal with the political and just like them, he has no sense of humor. 

Is it any wonder we like pirates and princes better? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@172 ntk</p>
<p>Yeah, whatever. Actually whiskey&#8217;s social determinist theorizing is a mirror image of the thing he&#8217;s always ax-grinding about. Just like his uber-feminist counterparts, he conflates the personal with the political and just like them, he has no sense of humor. </p>
<p>Is it any wonder we like pirates and princes better? <img src='http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: luddy barsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>luddy barsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LotM/177; i wish. I dunno from lyndon larouch --but a passel of these &#039;New Age&#039; people are inside the White House. You do note the extreme oddity of the energy field arond that UN IPCC Report, i&#039;m sure. That was a straw in the wind --there&#039;s some sort of coordination going on worldwide, in the field of junk science, and it&#039;s aimed at something. Search John Holdren --just start there. Obama&#039;s science advisor has a record --writings &amp; associations and so forth. take a look esp at his work on &#039;excess human population&#039;.

Scythianneedle is right --by the time we notice what&#039;s onstage, there&#039;s already been a whole lot of commotion offstage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LotM/177; i wish. I dunno from lyndon larouch &#8211;but a passel of these &#8216;New Age&#8217; people are inside the White House. You do note the extreme oddity of the energy field arond that UN IPCC Report, i&#8217;m sure. That was a straw in the wind &#8211;there&#8217;s some sort of coordination going on worldwide, in the field of junk science, and it&#8217;s aimed at something. Search John Holdren &#8211;just start there. Obama&#8217;s science advisor has a record &#8211;writings &amp; associations and so forth. take a look esp at his work on &#8216;excess human population&#8217;.</p>
<p>Scythianneedle is right &#8211;by the time we notice what&#8217;s onstage, there&#8217;s already been a whole lot of commotion offstage.</p>
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		<title>By: Scythianeedle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scythianeedle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We lament the absorption of Ireland, England, and all the other once independent nations into the smugly gitness of the EU. 

I wonder if those intellectual twits know the American dismissive &quot;Eew.&quot;

On a time, families who were born and raised up in Virginia considered themselves Virginians first. The chartered and self-governing colonies created feelings of loyalty and solidarity that have persevered to the present day. You can see this preserved in the stubbornly separate state governments, legal codes, university systems, national guard units, state police, etc. 

On a time, Brooklyn, Manhattan, The Bronx, Staten Island were all independent municipalities. Their citizens even now pridefully proclaim themselves by borough, even when traveling in the hinterlands.

Maybe Europe will awaken and cast off the stifling statism of its government.

It is to be hoped this will happen before the Islamic Jihad subjugates Dar al Harb all as it has been trying to do for 14 centuries.

The New Caliphate is coming for &lt;i&gt;You&lt;/i&gt;.

Or just as likely, the inheritors of the Cossacks or the Huns or the Mongols Or the Moghuls will flow over the Caucasus and establish a new outpost among the barbarians.

The unthinkable is not just approaching, it is HERE NOW, in manifold manifestations. 

We have seen innumerable demonstrations that there really are people who treasure Honor and Duty enough to sacrifice themselves for their fellows. We have seen like demonstrations that there are evil humans. A surprising number of those are central to the incumbent government and their supporters.

Perverts, Thieves, Cheats, Frauds, have been exposed. Some have been dismissed, but far more continue comfortably in their inexplicable posts, consolidating their power, and spreading their vicious lies. I wouldn&#039;t trust these degenerates to clean up after my dog. I sure don&#039;t want them making decisions for the country. Seeing the backs of them trudging away after a good caning... can&#039;t come too soon.

That reminds me...

Whatever happened to the moving vans full of White House furniture, silver, china, lace, and paintings the Clintons took after Bill pardoned all those late-term contributors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We lament the absorption of Ireland, England, and all the other once independent nations into the smugly gitness of the EU. </p>
<p>I wonder if those intellectual twits know the American dismissive &#8220;Eew.&#8221;</p>
<p>On a time, families who were born and raised up in Virginia considered themselves Virginians first. The chartered and self-governing colonies created feelings of loyalty and solidarity that have persevered to the present day. You can see this preserved in the stubbornly separate state governments, legal codes, university systems, national guard units, state police, etc. </p>
<p>On a time, Brooklyn, Manhattan, The Bronx, Staten Island were all independent municipalities. Their citizens even now pridefully proclaim themselves by borough, even when traveling in the hinterlands.</p>
<p>Maybe Europe will awaken and cast off the stifling statism of its government.</p>
<p>It is to be hoped this will happen before the Islamic Jihad subjugates Dar al Harb all as it has been trying to do for 14 centuries.</p>
<p>The New Caliphate is coming for <i>You</i>.</p>
<p>Or just as likely, the inheritors of the Cossacks or the Huns or the Mongols Or the Moghuls will flow over the Caucasus and establish a new outpost among the barbarians.</p>
<p>The unthinkable is not just approaching, it is HERE NOW, in manifold manifestations. </p>
<p>We have seen innumerable demonstrations that there really are people who treasure Honor and Duty enough to sacrifice themselves for their fellows. We have seen like demonstrations that there are evil humans. A surprising number of those are central to the incumbent government and their supporters.</p>
<p>Perverts, Thieves, Cheats, Frauds, have been exposed. Some have been dismissed, but far more continue comfortably in their inexplicable posts, consolidating their power, and spreading their vicious lies. I wouldn&#8217;t trust these degenerates to clean up after my dog. I sure don&#8217;t want them making decisions for the country. Seeing the backs of them trudging away after a good caning&#8230; can&#8217;t come too soon.</p>
<p>That reminds me&#8230;</p>
<p>Whatever happened to the moving vans full of White House furniture, silver, china, lace, and paintings the Clintons took after Bill pardoned all those late-term contributors?</p>
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