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		<title>By: Pascal Fervor</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/08/02/cash-for-clunkers/#comment-65175</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Fervor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes they are Buddy.

Thanks for your words of encouragement. Sometimes, all I hear are taunts from an awfully successful siren, some of whose boasts are featured top left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes they are Buddy.</p>
<p>Thanks for your words of encouragement. Sometimes, all I hear are taunts from an awfully successful siren, some of whose boasts are featured top left.</p>
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		<title>By: dwall</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/08/02/cash-for-clunkers/#comment-65171</link>
		<dc:creator>dwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussions about birth certificates, transcripts and college applications that show kenyan or indonesian are entertaining and who knows might be accurate.

But how do conservatives get the word out about some of his Czars, advisers and maybe White House Fellows being self-disclosed communists, socialists, transnationalists or/and AGW cap and trade true believers??

167 posts here.  How to get to 16 mill views?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussions about birth certificates, transcripts and college applications that show kenyan or indonesian are entertaining and who knows might be accurate.</p>
<p>But how do conservatives get the word out about some of his Czars, advisers and maybe White House Fellows being self-disclosed communists, socialists, transnationalists or/and AGW cap and trade true believers??</p>
<p>167 posts here.  How to get to 16 mill views?</p>
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		<title>By: dwall</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/08/02/cash-for-clunkers/#comment-65169</link>
		<dc:creator>dwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edmunds says the marginal sales (vehicle sales over what would  have been sold anyway) cost us between 20K and 43K per vehicle.

Plus the cost of creating and maintaining the program.  What do planning sessions cost in vegas with GS 13&#039;s conferencing with lawyers and industry executives to design this C4C disaster.  Maybe another K per vehicle?

Are there no economists left in DC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edmunds says the marginal sales (vehicle sales over what would  have been sold anyway) cost us between 20K and 43K per vehicle.</p>
<p>Plus the cost of creating and maintaining the program.  What do planning sessions cost in vegas with GS 13&#8242;s conferencing with lawyers and industry executives to design this C4C disaster.  Maybe another K per vehicle?</p>
<p>Are there no economists left in DC?</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they&#039;re shame-laughing, aren&#039;t they, PF. 

Say, some good mind-stretching entries over there on your blog --i saved it --i&#039;ll never read a hundred-thousandth of all that i want, but I have a lot of it lined it up waiting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they&#8217;re shame-laughing, aren&#8217;t they, PF. </p>
<p>Say, some good mind-stretching entries over there on your blog &#8211;i saved it &#8211;i&#8217;ll never read a hundred-thousandth of all that i want, but I have a lot of it lined it up waiting!</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Fervor</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/08/02/cash-for-clunkers/#comment-65132</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Fervor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was unaware of the Manitou as a formal conception Buddy. Thanks for the education.

Yes; that video at the link is an eye opener. The murderers laughed at the car&#039;s cry. There is no mistaking that it was the human similarity that induced their giggles.  Chilling.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Never send to know for whom the bell tolls....&quot;&lt;/i&gt; -- John Donne &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was unaware of the Manitou as a formal conception Buddy. Thanks for the education.</p>
<p>Yes; that video at the link is an eye opener. The murderers laughed at the car&#8217;s cry. There is no mistaking that it was the human similarity that induced their giggles.  Chilling.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Never send to know for whom the bell tolls&#8230;.&#8221;</i> &#8212; John Donne </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW the Dog Star Man&#039;s link is to an anti-climate-hysteria monograph writ by none other than Richard S. Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW the Dog Star Man&#8217;s link is to an anti-climate-hysteria monograph writ by none other than Richard S. Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/08/02/cash-for-clunkers/#comment-65127</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sirius/161; mind-boggling, ain&#039;t it. The alarm should&#039;ve started ringing when the &quot;Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change&quot;, the notorious IPCC Rep rt, popped out of the United Nations so poorly-done that high-schoolers were taking it apart within hours. And this is STILL the &quot;science&quot; behind carbon trading! Un-frikken-belIEVable! 

Like Dan Rather&#039;s Bush coup --oops --typed on a machine that didn&#039;t exist yet!

Incredible combo of greed and stupidity and arrogance and ambition and hatefulness.

Thanks for the link --i&#039;m adding it to my liberry --already pretty huge --detailing from a hundred different directions this web --this Dunbar Number of aristocrats trying again to kill off the bourgeoisie.

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Pascal Fervor, machine Manitou!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sirius/161; mind-boggling, ain&#8217;t it. The alarm should&#8217;ve started ringing when the &#8220;Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change&#8221;, the notorious IPCC Rep rt, popped out of the United Nations so poorly-done that high-schoolers were taking it apart within hours. And this is STILL the &#8220;science&#8221; behind carbon trading! Un-frikken-belIEVable! </p>
<p>Like Dan Rather&#8217;s Bush coup &#8211;oops &#8211;typed on a machine that didn&#8217;t exist yet!</p>
<p>Incredible combo of greed and stupidity and arrogance and ambition and hatefulness.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link &#8211;i&#8217;m adding it to my liberry &#8211;already pretty huge &#8211;detailing from a hundred different directions this web &#8211;this Dunbar Number of aristocrats trying again to kill off the bourgeoisie.</p>
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Pascal Fervor, machine Manitou!</p>
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		<title>By: sirius_sir</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirius_sir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug and Buddy, pardon me if this information is redundant, but it does fit somehow with the discussion the two of you were having earlier on. The link comes by way of Tigerhawk a few days ago: http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2009/07/resisting-climate-hysteria

The entire article is informative, but this bit is especially illustrative of the coercively manipulative nature of today&#039;s comingling of political and big-business interests:

&quot;Politicians can see the possibility of taxation that will be cheerfully accepted because it is necessary for ‘saving’ the earth. Nations have seen how to exploit this issue in order to gain competitive advantages. But, by now, things have gone much further. The case of ENRON (a now bankrupt Texas energy firm) is illustrative in this respect. Before disintegrating in a pyrotechnic display of unscrupulous manipulation, ENRON had been one of the most intense lobbyists for Kyoto. It had hoped to become a trading firm dealing in carbon emission rights. This was no small hope. These rights are likely to amount to over a trillion dollars, and the commissions will run into many billions. Hedge funds are actively examining the possibilities; so was the late Lehman Brothers. Goldman Sachs has lobbied extensively for the ‘cap and trade’ bill, and is well positioned to make billions. It is probably no accident that Gore, himself, is associated with such activities.&quot;

I take it as a matter of faith that the last sentence is meant as something of a wry joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug and Buddy, pardon me if this information is redundant, but it does fit somehow with the discussion the two of you were having earlier on. The link comes by way of Tigerhawk a few days ago: <a href="http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2009/07/resisting-climate-hysteria" rel="nofollow">http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2009/07/resisting-climate-hysteria</a></p>
<p>The entire article is informative, but this bit is especially illustrative of the coercively manipulative nature of today&#8217;s comingling of political and big-business interests:</p>
<p>&#8220;Politicians can see the possibility of taxation that will be cheerfully accepted because it is necessary for ‘saving’ the earth. Nations have seen how to exploit this issue in order to gain competitive advantages. But, by now, things have gone much further. The case of ENRON (a now bankrupt Texas energy firm) is illustrative in this respect. Before disintegrating in a pyrotechnic display of unscrupulous manipulation, ENRON had been one of the most intense lobbyists for Kyoto. It had hoped to become a trading firm dealing in carbon emission rights. This was no small hope. These rights are likely to amount to over a trillion dollars, and the commissions will run into many billions. Hedge funds are actively examining the possibilities; so was the late Lehman Brothers. Goldman Sachs has lobbied extensively for the ‘cap and trade’ bill, and is well positioned to make billions. It is probably no accident that Gore, himself, is associated with such activities.&#8221;</p>
<p>I take it as a matter of faith that the last sentence is meant as something of a wry joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Fervor</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/08/02/cash-for-clunkers/#comment-65107</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Fervor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Hutsul at 1 and Doug at 2 and most of the rest of you.

You all know where I stand.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://pascalfervor.blogspot.com/2009/08/screeching-for-mercy-whilst-your.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Here&#039;s my sad screed that attempts to combine the headlines.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

God grant us the courage to face and strength to repel the horrors to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Hutsul at 1 and Doug at 2 and most of the rest of you.</p>
<p>You all know where I stand.</p>
<p><a href="http://pascalfervor.blogspot.com/2009/08/screeching-for-mercy-whilst-your.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>Here&#8217;s my sad screed that attempts to combine the headlines.</strong></a></p>
<p>God grant us the courage to face and strength to repel the horrors to come.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/08/02/cash-for-clunkers/#comment-65095</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blert, that&#039;s just mind-blowing --really, info like that can swing a close election. It would&#039;ve been abu-graibed above the NYT fold a hundred times --had it been McCain the brow-beaten pre-PST maternal-abuse sufferer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert, that&#8217;s just mind-blowing &#8211;really, info like that can swing a close election. It would&#8217;ve been abu-graibed above the NYT fold a hundred times &#8211;had it been McCain the brow-beaten pre-PST maternal-abuse sufferer.</p>
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