Comments on: Bang for buck

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:39:41 +0000

http://www.ouest-france.fr/actu/actuDetFdj_-Attentat-de-Karachi-de-nouveaux-elements-_39382-984397_actu.Htm

a pic of the submarine for those who had a doubt

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:43:32 +0000

Il s’étonne notamment que des généraux pakistanais aient attendu la réélection de Chirac, en 2002, pour se venger d’une décision vieille de sept ans. Il fait aussi valoir que l’attentat a été salué par le chef d’Al-Qaeda, Oussama ben Laden. La voix chuintante de l’homme le plus recherché du monde se faisait entendre, le 12 novembre 2002, sur la chaîne Al-Jazira : “Toutes les opérations qui se sont produites contre les Allemands en Tunisie [Djerba], contre les Français à Karachi, contre les Australiens et les Britanniques à Bali [...], tout cela n’est que la riposte de musulmans soucieux de défendre leur religion.” Une quasi-signature.

http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/les-mysteres-de-karachi_769905.html

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:26:33 +0000

“Must admit I am surprised the French let them off with 1 death & 4 broken legs.”

le journal “Libération” a affirmé que les agents de la DGSE ont “cassé les jambes” de trois amiraux pakistanais et ont tué un officier de rang inférieur. Ce bilan supposé ne figure cependant pas au dossier judiciaire

http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/monde/asie/0,,4448758,00-la-dgse-savait-elle-.html

now about the “submarines” they were achieved, cuz I know a person from Cherbourg (a nuclear site customer) whose a family member died in Karachi, he was sent there afterword.

Though, the whole operation wasn’t a benefit, as we say “un gouffre financier”

By: Neil Craig

Neil Craig — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:36:30 +0000

Must admit I am surprised the French let them off with 1 death & 4 broken legs.

Perhaps they expect to sell more submarines in future or perhaps Pakistan is paying through the nose for spare parts now, which I assume will be done in a 3rd country.

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:42:00 +0000

and about Chirac, he is no actionnaire of Total nor of Eads, nor EDF, nor Matra, nor Dassault industry, but of France’s, and for us, that means he is was a state man, and find any polital man in the world that has no secret purse to finance his campain, oh yes, yours of course, all the papers say that LMAO

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:36:51 +0000

Life of the (mind ?),

I can revert your argumentation, you’re defending the “one way of understanding” this epiphenomenal portion of history, while selecting the documentation that fits your opinion, sorry, there are a load of counter documentation that advocates the contrary too, and, surely, the US have no “clean hands” in them too, in many domains, especially on the African and ME continents where our national interests were/are in concurrence, so you’re not neutral, I can get along with that, but suffer when you’re descending the french policy, that I am entitled to justify our position

By: Herb

Herb — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:10:22 +0000

LOTM: Marie Claude may want to put some ice on that.

By: blogstrop

blogstrop — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:15:00 +0000

#32 – if only some of the Dems could grow balls of their own. There are still lots of pockets out there.

By: Lifeofthemind

Lifeofthemind — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:18:15 +0000

Marie Claude,
Badly argued. All the whining and petulance and lashing out to say You’re Another or Bush-Cheney-Rich means nothing. It is what we call “flinging poo” to distract when there is no argument. Saddam bought the French government, among others. Deal with it. The corruption runs deep and Sarkozy is trying to peel it back a little. He will be fought at every step and traps will always be prepared for him to step in. He is not from Mars so he had to be around as shady deals were made. Hopefully he sees that it is in his interest and France’s to try to make things better. If you want to understand the strange creatures called the Anglo-saxons then understand that in addition to all the wheels within wheels and commercial links the arguments about Democracy and Sovereignty and Law and Liberty and Civilization and humanity and everything else that men of all political parties, Bush and Reagan and Kennedy and FDR, and Churchill and Gladstone and Disraeli and Burke and many more talked about are very real to us. When all is said and done then we are very capable of planning and executing a policy like the Invasion of Iraq in the expectation that it will change the dynamics in the future. Without knowing the results in advance, without relying only on pure Cartesian Logic, we can have faith that if the present is unacceptable then the future can be made better. The games model here could be pool, that is pocket pool and not billiards. Bush executed a good break and without certainty as to the results in advance he showed sufficient skill that some of the balls are starting to drop into the right pockets.

By: Chiral

Chiral — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:49:52 +0000

With bribery comes blackmail, and the lower esteemed party may get a free pass since the more revered party “should have known better” in the eyes of whomever cares.