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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/06/21/the-personal-is-political/#comment-58436</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama is NOT an American, culturally, and hates everything about America. He WANTS America nuked, attacked, so he can install a Vichy America dream regime. And his supporters, women and the media (but I repeat myself) want the same. Oh not all of them. But most of them.&quot;

The chances of an Vichy America being installed contingent on such attacks rely on whether or not the folks living in &quot;flyover country&quot; will allow such stupidity to stand.  Such a move could very well open the door to a second Civil War.  And it could earn Obama a bullet for his troubles.  Which WILL guarantee a second Civil War.  

Such a war will guarantee the Madison Avenue metrosexuals being relegated to refugees, cannon fodder, &quot;strange fruits&quot; and objects of ridicule and universal scorn.  Female supporters of this &quot;Vichy America&quot; will be too busy searching for new safety and support systems among the rednecks and other flyover people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama is NOT an American, culturally, and hates everything about America. He WANTS America nuked, attacked, so he can install a Vichy America dream regime. And his supporters, women and the media (but I repeat myself) want the same. Oh not all of them. But most of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>The chances of an Vichy America being installed contingent on such attacks rely on whether or not the folks living in &#8220;flyover country&#8221; will allow such stupidity to stand.  Such a move could very well open the door to a second Civil War.  And it could earn Obama a bullet for his troubles.  Which WILL guarantee a second Civil War.  </p>
<p>Such a war will guarantee the Madison Avenue metrosexuals being relegated to refugees, cannon fodder, &#8220;strange fruits&#8221; and objects of ridicule and universal scorn.  Female supporters of this &#8220;Vichy America&#8221; will be too busy searching for new safety and support systems among the rednecks and other flyover people.</p>
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		<title>By: Steynian 366 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steynian 366 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rickl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I forgot in my #46 comment:  If I recall correctly, Iran was the only country in the Middle East where the people held spontaneous &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;pro&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;-American street demonstrations after 9/11.

Needless to say, the government was not pleased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I forgot in my #46 comment:  If I recall correctly, Iran was the only country in the Middle East where the people held spontaneous <b><i>pro</i></b>-American street demonstrations after 9/11.</p>
<p>Needless to say, the government was not pleased.</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Jazeera&#039;s HQ is in Qatar, they actually have the reputation of airing multiple ME POV&#039;s on issues in the ME. Even if it is pure bull, or patently propaganda. So it is really not a surprise at all, especially since the US Army went to great lengths to ensure the American take on stories got aired on Al J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Jazeera&#8217;s HQ is in Qatar, they actually have the reputation of airing multiple ME POV&#8217;s on issues in the ME. Even if it is pure bull, or patently propaganda. So it is really not a surprise at all, especially since the US Army went to great lengths to ensure the American take on stories got aired on Al J.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Fiddler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Fiddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posing the question about Al Jazeera, Derek, in your post #30.

I went to their website, and found they had a compilation of RAW Youtube videos, especially the shooting of the young girl Neda (one with her face blurred, but the other untouched) along with some official footage with statements from Iranian officials. 

Remarkably, the ENGLISH-language Al Jazeera does not paper over the stark contrast between the statements of Iranian officials describing the protesters as &quot;terrorists&quot; and the footage showing the protesters merely standing and milling around, FACES UN-COVERED, while the police and troops face them. In the compilation video, it was impossible to draw any sense that Al Jazeera was taking the side of the Iranian Revolutionary government.

Hooda Thunk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posing the question about Al Jazeera, Derek, in your post #30.</p>
<p>I went to their website, and found they had a compilation of RAW Youtube videos, especially the shooting of the young girl Neda (one with her face blurred, but the other untouched) along with some official footage with statements from Iranian officials. </p>
<p>Remarkably, the ENGLISH-language Al Jazeera does not paper over the stark contrast between the statements of Iranian officials describing the protesters as &#8220;terrorists&#8221; and the footage showing the protesters merely standing and milling around, FACES UN-COVERED, while the police and troops face them. In the compilation video, it was impossible to draw any sense that Al Jazeera was taking the side of the Iranian Revolutionary government.</p>
<p>Hooda Thunk?</p>
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		<title>By: steveaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADE @15
&quot;Isn’t it only appropriate that the Persians are the ones who have kicked the Arab culture out first? Indonesia will be next. Too much money to be made by adopting the West.&quot;

I like that you are decrying a delimited, geographically-distinct culture, &quot;Arab culture,&quot; instead of the expansive, unquantifiable demographic, &quot;Muslims.&quot;

More and more folks are discarding the old &quot;it&#039;s the Moozies&quot; convention.  Could this be a sign that the burqa is finally slipping off of the Baathist/Arab Socialist/Nasserite proxy-project?  

With a lot of paid help from media (here I include academe; recall that Juan Cole and Edward Said are both overpaid talking heads with political scripts, just like Keith Olbermann) these miscreants had managed to conceal themselves in the folds and cleavage of the global Muslim flock for the last half-century.   And, just as crab-lice hunker down when a light shines on &#039;em, labeling these parasites &quot;Muslim,&quot; or &quot;Islamist,&quot; in a bid to isolate and derogate them only seemed to make them burrow deeper into the global Ummah&#039;s jungle of follicles..

But now, it seems something&#039;s changed.  The mask could be slipping, or, in keeping with my parasitic metaphor, the pyrethrinoid of Iraqi democracy may be doing its steady delousing work. 

And if it&#039;s getting harder for the Baathists to hide amongst the world&#039;s largest religion, then they&#039;ll be easier to target when they break out into the open in Nairobi, Chicago and Caracas.  A

And then maybe America can get on with our own Arab Project, duly begun under Bush I, that of putting the &quot;I&quot; back in Arab Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADE @15<br />
&#8220;Isn’t it only appropriate that the Persians are the ones who have kicked the Arab culture out first? Indonesia will be next. Too much money to be made by adopting the West.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like that you are decrying a delimited, geographically-distinct culture, &#8220;Arab culture,&#8221; instead of the expansive, unquantifiable demographic, &#8220;Muslims.&#8221;</p>
<p>More and more folks are discarding the old &#8220;it&#8217;s the Moozies&#8221; convention.  Could this be a sign that the burqa is finally slipping off of the Baathist/Arab Socialist/Nasserite proxy-project?  </p>
<p>With a lot of paid help from media (here I include academe; recall that Juan Cole and Edward Said are both overpaid talking heads with political scripts, just like Keith Olbermann) these miscreants had managed to conceal themselves in the folds and cleavage of the global Muslim flock for the last half-century.   And, just as crab-lice hunker down when a light shines on &#8216;em, labeling these parasites &#8220;Muslim,&#8221; or &#8220;Islamist,&#8221; in a bid to isolate and derogate them only seemed to make them burrow deeper into the global Ummah&#8217;s jungle of follicles..</p>
<p>But now, it seems something&#8217;s changed.  The mask could be slipping, or, in keeping with my parasitic metaphor, the pyrethrinoid of Iraqi democracy may be doing its steady delousing work. </p>
<p>And if it&#8217;s getting harder for the Baathists to hide amongst the world&#8217;s largest religion, then they&#8217;ll be easier to target when they break out into the open in Nairobi, Chicago and Caracas.  A</p>
<p>And then maybe America can get on with our own Arab Project, duly begun under Bush I, that of putting the &#8220;I&#8221; back in Arab Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Fiddler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Fiddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear feeblemind,

I will answer you at face value, assuming you are actually as ignorant of world events over the last decades as your question would suggest.

If you haven&#039;t noticed, Iran&#039;s Islamic Revolutionary Government immediately as it came to power began arresting, imprisoning, torturing and executing a very wide range of people it did not much care for:

Communists

Leftists (sympathetic to communism)

Union leaders, organizers, and members (connected to communism, secular socialist Left)

Teachers and professors who taught subjects regarded as inimical to Islam

Teachers, professors, administrators, and students who dissented from the Islamic Revolutionary rule, Shari&#039;ah, et cetera.

Thieves (well, they just amputate their hands...)

Adulterous Women, and women who defy their fathers wishes, and women who are insufficiently modest or who wear Western fashions not modest Islamic Chador, Scarves, Burqa, or Hajib.

Homosexuals (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503545556&amp;pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaEAskTheScholar&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shari&#039;ah generally holds that a homosexual should be killed if married, imprisoned for life if single.&lt;/a&gt;)

Un-believers, especially any who attempt to convert a Muslim away from Islam. This includes Jews, Catholics, Baptists, Zoroastrians, followers of Bahu&#039;allah, Methodists, Presbyterians, Seventh Day Adventists, COGIC, etc.

Over thirty years, they have arrested and &quot;disappeared&quot; many tens of thousands of their own citizens. 

Have you not seen the videotaped reports of homosexuals and adulterers hanged by their necks and left to rot dangling from Industrial Cranes in Downtown Tehran?

Have you not heard of the 1989 Fatwa (Islamic condemnation) of British author Salman Rushdie for his book titled &quot;The Satanic Verses?&quot; The Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini called for his execution for irreverence to Islam. A &lt;i&gt;Fatwa&lt;/i&gt; calls for any Muslim to execute the offender, regardless of local laws, borders, etc., and defines the execution as a duty and and honor for the Muslim who carries it out. Mr. Rushdie was required to go into hiding for most of a decades, moving from one safe house to another, avoiding public appearances, and protecting his family from Islamic zealots.

Meanwhile, the Revolutionary Islamic Republic of Iran has openly been providing financial, technical, and staffing support along with weapons to Hizb&#039;allah in Lebanon and foreign insurgents (non-Iraqi) who have been killing Shiite and Sunni Muslims throughout the region to advance Iran&#039;s agenda. Oh, yeah... and they&#039;ve been killing Coalition troops, too.

So, if you haven&#039;t noticed these things, which have been widely reported in the New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, and even the San Francisco Chronicle, you need to pay a little more attention.

The mullahs who rule Iran have been brutalizing their people for three decades, without giving a shit who might see. In fact, the more publicity their brutal tactics get, the better for them, since it gets the message to anybody watching that they&#039;d better knuckle under.

You risk being shown to be either a total moron, or a visitor from Democratic Underground attempting to pose what would only seem a reasonable question to a total moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear feeblemind,</p>
<p>I will answer you at face value, assuming you are actually as ignorant of world events over the last decades as your question would suggest.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t noticed, Iran&#8217;s Islamic Revolutionary Government immediately as it came to power began arresting, imprisoning, torturing and executing a very wide range of people it did not much care for:</p>
<p>Communists</p>
<p>Leftists (sympathetic to communism)</p>
<p>Union leaders, organizers, and members (connected to communism, secular socialist Left)</p>
<p>Teachers and professors who taught subjects regarded as inimical to Islam</p>
<p>Teachers, professors, administrators, and students who dissented from the Islamic Revolutionary rule, Shari&#8217;ah, et cetera.</p>
<p>Thieves (well, they just amputate their hands&#8230;)</p>
<p>Adulterous Women, and women who defy their fathers wishes, and women who are insufficiently modest or who wear Western fashions not modest Islamic Chador, Scarves, Burqa, or Hajib.</p>
<p>Homosexuals (<a href="http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503545556&amp;pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaEAskTheScholar" rel="nofollow">Shari&#8217;ah generally holds that a homosexual should be killed if married, imprisoned for life if single.</a>)</p>
<p>Un-believers, especially any who attempt to convert a Muslim away from Islam. This includes Jews, Catholics, Baptists, Zoroastrians, followers of Bahu&#8217;allah, Methodists, Presbyterians, Seventh Day Adventists, COGIC, etc.</p>
<p>Over thirty years, they have arrested and &#8220;disappeared&#8221; many tens of thousands of their own citizens. </p>
<p>Have you not seen the videotaped reports of homosexuals and adulterers hanged by their necks and left to rot dangling from Industrial Cranes in Downtown Tehran?</p>
<p>Have you not heard of the 1989 Fatwa (Islamic condemnation) of British author Salman Rushdie for his book titled &#8220;The Satanic Verses?&#8221; The Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini called for his execution for irreverence to Islam. A <i>Fatwa</i> calls for any Muslim to execute the offender, regardless of local laws, borders, etc., and defines the execution as a duty and and honor for the Muslim who carries it out. Mr. Rushdie was required to go into hiding for most of a decades, moving from one safe house to another, avoiding public appearances, and protecting his family from Islamic zealots.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the Revolutionary Islamic Republic of Iran has openly been providing financial, technical, and staffing support along with weapons to Hizb&#8217;allah in Lebanon and foreign insurgents (non-Iraqi) who have been killing Shiite and Sunni Muslims throughout the region to advance Iran&#8217;s agenda. Oh, yeah&#8230; and they&#8217;ve been killing Coalition troops, too.</p>
<p>So, if you haven&#8217;t noticed these things, which have been widely reported in the New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, and even the San Francisco Chronicle, you need to pay a little more attention.</p>
<p>The mullahs who rule Iran have been brutalizing their people for three decades, without giving a shit who might see. In fact, the more publicity their brutal tactics get, the better for them, since it gets the message to anybody watching that they&#8217;d better knuckle under.</p>
<p>You risk being shown to be either a total moron, or a visitor from Democratic Underground attempting to pose what would only seem a reasonable question to a total moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nahncee,
Not just Korean shopowners in LA for that affair, we&#039;d be treated to the sight of Middle Eastern Quickshop managers nationwide defending our right to private property!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nahncee,<br />
Not just Korean shopowners in LA for that affair, we&#8217;d be treated to the sight of Middle Eastern Quickshop managers nationwide defending our right to private property!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then there was that meeting in Qom.
(see my #27 and #31 above)

“&lt;i&gt;Many of the Shiite clerics in Qom never embraced the idea of either a supreme leader or a central role for clerics in the new Islamic republic. Iran’s revolution represented not just a political upheaval. 

&lt;b&gt;It was also a revolution within Shiism, which for 14 centuries had prohibited a clerical role in politics.&lt;/b&gt; 

With clerics taking over government, many senior Shiite clerics feared that Islam would end up being tainted by the human flaws of the state.&lt;/i&gt; ”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there was that meeting in Qom.<br />
(see my #27 and #31 above)</p>
<p>“<i>Many of the Shiite clerics in Qom never embraced the idea of either a supreme leader or a central role for clerics in the new Islamic republic. Iran’s revolution represented not just a political upheaval. </p>
<p><b>It was also a revolution within Shiism, which for 14 centuries had prohibited a clerical role in politics.</b> </p>
<p>With clerics taking over government, many senior Shiite clerics feared that Islam would end up being tainted by the human flaws of the state.</i> ”</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I look at what is going on in Iran today, and I see a preview of coming attractions in America.&quot;

Oh, I think it&#039;ll be much more fun when the streets of America rise up again to throw out the fascist overseers.  We will all be armed and fully capable of shooting back for one thing, I&#039;m pretty sure our military will not shoot at us upon the orders of President Pantywaist and his braying Secretary of State, and ACORN and other melanin-enhanced Obama supporter will take the opportunity to break into and loot anything that&#039;s not protected by business owners bearing shotguns which will add a extra little fillip of interest to the proceedings.  

Where will the media be?  Hiding under their desks, of course, lest they also be dragged into the streets and hung upside down a la Mussolini.  But they&#039;ll hardly be missed since there will be so very many citizen journalists eager to take their place and do a better job at it from the get-go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I look at what is going on in Iran today, and I see a preview of coming attractions in America.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I think it&#8217;ll be much more fun when the streets of America rise up again to throw out the fascist overseers.  We will all be armed and fully capable of shooting back for one thing, I&#8217;m pretty sure our military will not shoot at us upon the orders of President Pantywaist and his braying Secretary of State, and ACORN and other melanin-enhanced Obama supporter will take the opportunity to break into and loot anything that&#8217;s not protected by business owners bearing shotguns which will add a extra little fillip of interest to the proceedings.  </p>
<p>Where will the media be?  Hiding under their desks, of course, lest they also be dragged into the streets and hung upside down a la Mussolini.  But they&#8217;ll hardly be missed since there will be so very many citizen journalists eager to take their place and do a better job at it from the get-go.</p>
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