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		<title>By: murtada</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murtada Abdul_Sahib Abol_Nos

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murtada Abdul_Sahib Abol_Nos</p>
<p>Mechatronics Engineer<br />
Iraq-Wasit<br />
Mobile: 07703174304,07812239342<br />
E-mail: <a href="mailto:murtada.mech@yahoo.com">murtada.mech@yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>Education</p>
<p>Bachelor Degree of Mechatronics Engineer – Baghdad University </p>
<p>Computer Skills</p>
<p>AutoCAD (2D &amp;3D)<br />
Ansys<br />
Matlab<br />
Microsoft Visual Basic<br />
Adobe Photoshop<br />
Microsoft office (Microsoft Office Word, Microsoft Office PowerPoint, Microsoft Office Excel &amp; Microsoft Office Access).<br />
Familiar with most PC programs.<br />
General Information</p>
<p>Nationality: Iraqi<br />
Age: 26                                                 Marital Status: Single		</p>
<p>Language</p>
<p>Arabic:  Native language<br />
English:  Reading &amp; writing </p>
<p>Practical experience<br />
•	Participated in Al-Siyada festival and got the first post on Iraq for my project (vibration absorber) .<br />
•	Worked with ( AGI ) British protection company as (interpreter &amp; computer man) for two years.<br />
•	Worked with ( BGP ) Chinese Oil company for seismic operations in AL_Ahdab field for five months.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ricks&#039; calling Obama a &quot;good strategic thinker&quot; doesn&#039;t help the author&#039;s credibility on this issue, in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricks&#8217; calling Obama a &#8220;good strategic thinker&#8221; doesn&#8217;t help the author&#8217;s credibility on this issue, in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wretchard wrote: &quot;He said, and I am quoting only approximately, that ‘interventions are about allowing history to restart in a society that has become stuck. Iraq had become stuck in Saddam. The future of Iraq is unknowable,’ he said, ‘but it has started again.’&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://gutenberg.net/dirs/etext96/1dfre10.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The History of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon: Book I; Chapter III, Part II&lt;/a&gt;:

Titus Antoninus Pius . . . diffused order and tranquility over the greatest part of the earth.  His reign is marked by the rare advantage of furnishing very few materials for &lt;b&gt;history; which is, indeed, little more than the register of the crimes, follies, and misfortunes of mankind&lt;/b&gt;.

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The Iraqis now get to be like the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wretchard wrote: &#8220;He said, and I am quoting only approximately, that ‘interventions are about allowing history to restart in a society that has become stuck. Iraq had become stuck in Saddam. The future of Iraq is unknowable,’ he said, ‘but it has started again.’&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://gutenberg.net/dirs/etext96/1dfre10.txt" rel="nofollow">The History of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon: Book I; Chapter III, Part II</a>:</p>
<p>Titus Antoninus Pius . . . diffused order and tranquility over the greatest part of the earth.  His reign is marked by the rare advantage of furnishing very few materials for <b>history; which is, indeed, little more than the register of the crimes, follies, and misfortunes of mankind</b>.</p>
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<p>The Iraqis now get to be like the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/05/30/iraq-victory-or-defeat/#comment-54479</link>
		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraq is as relevant as Anzio was in January 1945. It just is not important anymore.

Ricks desperately wants a defeat (like Obama) to &quot;teach America a lesson&quot; about listening to the innate goodness and moral superiority of both Saddam Hussein and men like him, and Ricks (and people like him).

Ricks is as irrelevant as Saddam and Anzio, because the crux of the matter is nuclear breakout. Which is a reality, and will inevitably lead under weak, anti-American, and moralizing President Barack Hussein Obama, to nuked American cities.

THEN, the only question will be how many Muslims does America kill, and how quickly, to restore deterrence? My ball park figure is about half a billion.

Well, Obama and Ricks knew best. They figured apologies, defeat, and moralizing would magically create power where every time in the past it had brought horrific defeat.

In many ways, people like Obama and Ricks project the hothouse social dynamics and politics of the Western Elite onto the broader world. It&#039;s a failure of imagination above all else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq is as relevant as Anzio was in January 1945. It just is not important anymore.</p>
<p>Ricks desperately wants a defeat (like Obama) to &#8220;teach America a lesson&#8221; about listening to the innate goodness and moral superiority of both Saddam Hussein and men like him, and Ricks (and people like him).</p>
<p>Ricks is as irrelevant as Saddam and Anzio, because the crux of the matter is nuclear breakout. Which is a reality, and will inevitably lead under weak, anti-American, and moralizing President Barack Hussein Obama, to nuked American cities.</p>
<p>THEN, the only question will be how many Muslims does America kill, and how quickly, to restore deterrence? My ball park figure is about half a billion.</p>
<p>Well, Obama and Ricks knew best. They figured apologies, defeat, and moralizing would magically create power where every time in the past it had brought horrific defeat.</p>
<p>In many ways, people like Obama and Ricks project the hothouse social dynamics and politics of the Western Elite onto the broader world. It&#8217;s a failure of imagination above all else.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 vb:
&lt;i&gt;I can’t stand the inherited-a-terrible-situation excuse. Obama didn’t inherit anything; he sought the office and spent 3/4 of a billion to win the race.&lt;/i&gt;

Excellent!

But regarding Iraq ... 

&lt;i&gt; ...interventions are about allowing history to restart in a society that has become stuck&lt;/i&gt;

I am very much afraid that Islam is about stopping time, and Iraq will not escape that with only what we have managed there so far.  Should we have tried for more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 vb:<br />
<i>I can’t stand the inherited-a-terrible-situation excuse. Obama didn’t inherit anything; he sought the office and spent 3/4 of a billion to win the race.</i></p>
<p>Excellent!</p>
<p>But regarding Iraq &#8230; </p>
<p><i> &#8230;interventions are about allowing history to restart in a society that has become stuck</i></p>
<p>I am very much afraid that Islam is about stopping time, and Iraq will not escape that with only what we have managed there so far.  Should we have tried for more?</p>
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		<title>By: hdgreene</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America seems to be at war with Fascist Cults.  Or, more accurately, Fascist Cults seem to be at war with America, with America not inclined to notice.  The more Fascist and Cult-like the organization, the more hostile it is to America. The reason I use the word &quot;organization&quot; is because sometimes these organizations control nations, and sometimes they do not.  And, of course, these organizations do not have to be foreign.

The Fascist Cult views each member as a part of an organic whole.  Conflict with &quot;The Other&quot; helps keep the whole, whole.  As does a Sacred, often apocalyptic, mission. Terrorism can acquire a religious significance.  This organic whole is personified in the person of the leader, living or dead.  If dead, the effective perpetuation of the Cult seems to require the successor to be either a spiritual or family descendant of the founder (Iran is an example of the former, Syria of the latter, and North Korea of both).   

The United States -- as the most prominent example of a nation with individual rights and consensual changes in leadership -- is a natural magnet for hostility.  A leader of a Fascist Cult who successfully &quot;stands up&quot; to the US brings the Cult prestige (Castro, Kim, Khomeini).  This is why retreat or &quot;giving in&quot;  increases the danger. Deals, when made, are soon broken.  Tension with the US is an existential need.

The more fanatical -- and therefore incompatible -- the Fascist Cults, the easier they can submerge their differences to cooperate against the US (Iran and Korea are current examples or, earlier, Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan).  

An example of a weakly organized and centered Fascist Cult is the Obama Democratic Party and the Obama News Media.  Obamacrats and newsies do not think Mr. Obama lies to them; they think he lies for them. They are loyal, not to the America that is, but to &quot;The America, washed clean, to Come.&quot; Of course every New America is different, hence a lack of specificity.  They are not just herding cats, they are herding Schrödinger&#039;s cats.  Mr. Obama is, for them, the anthropomorphic personification of that unspecified &quot;New America&quot; and a living policy fudge. In their eyes, Obama gains prestige when he stands up to &quot;the Old America,&quot; rather than standing up to Foreign Fascists (who need to stand up to him).  

Fortunately, as the episode with Ted Rall shows, the Obamacrats are currently held together by a &quot;weak force&quot; and are not exactly signing on for political suicide missions, let alone the other kind.  Fascist Cults cannot long abide dissent, however, so they either dissolve into numerous cells or become ever more authoritarian. 

If the Obama Democrats were a &quot;1&quot; on the ten point Fascist scale while out of power, I would give them a &quot;2&quot; thus far, having acquired it. Kim&#039;s North Korea would be a nine.  Iran? A seven.  Hamas, a six.

Saddam staying in power was fast becoming a defeat for the US on the Iraq front of The Fascist Terror Cult War. Simply by surviving one war with the US, and defying the US for years afterwards, Saddam was winning: gaining prestige and even allies.  US defeat on that front would have been complete with a Saddam &quot;break out&quot; from sanctions and eventual acquisition of WMD.  That defeat -- and it would have been major -- was avoided by the Iraq war. 

Personally, I was skeptical of turning of Iraq into a model society because, in truth, I did not see the American People as having the patience to do it.  Predictably, every suicide bomb was greeted as evidence of defeat. However, Iraqis have been holding a lot of elections so perhaps the idea of consensual government is taking hold.  If it does, that will be a major victory for America in our War with Fascist Cults.  Assuming, that is, we don&#039;t lose it at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America seems to be at war with Fascist Cults.  Or, more accurately, Fascist Cults seem to be at war with America, with America not inclined to notice.  The more Fascist and Cult-like the organization, the more hostile it is to America. The reason I use the word &#8220;organization&#8221; is because sometimes these organizations control nations, and sometimes they do not.  And, of course, these organizations do not have to be foreign.</p>
<p>The Fascist Cult views each member as a part of an organic whole.  Conflict with &#8220;The Other&#8221; helps keep the whole, whole.  As does a Sacred, often apocalyptic, mission. Terrorism can acquire a religious significance.  This organic whole is personified in the person of the leader, living or dead.  If dead, the effective perpetuation of the Cult seems to require the successor to be either a spiritual or family descendant of the founder (Iran is an example of the former, Syria of the latter, and North Korea of both).   </p>
<p>The United States &#8212; as the most prominent example of a nation with individual rights and consensual changes in leadership &#8212; is a natural magnet for hostility.  A leader of a Fascist Cult who successfully &#8220;stands up&#8221; to the US brings the Cult prestige (Castro, Kim, Khomeini).  This is why retreat or &#8220;giving in&#8221;  increases the danger. Deals, when made, are soon broken.  Tension with the US is an existential need.</p>
<p>The more fanatical &#8212; and therefore incompatible &#8212; the Fascist Cults, the easier they can submerge their differences to cooperate against the US (Iran and Korea are current examples or, earlier, Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan).  </p>
<p>An example of a weakly organized and centered Fascist Cult is the Obama Democratic Party and the Obama News Media.  Obamacrats and newsies do not think Mr. Obama lies to them; they think he lies for them. They are loyal, not to the America that is, but to &#8220;The America, washed clean, to Come.&#8221; Of course every New America is different, hence a lack of specificity.  They are not just herding cats, they are herding Schrödinger&#8217;s cats.  Mr. Obama is, for them, the anthropomorphic personification of that unspecified &#8220;New America&#8221; and a living policy fudge. In their eyes, Obama gains prestige when he stands up to &#8220;the Old America,&#8221; rather than standing up to Foreign Fascists (who need to stand up to him).  </p>
<p>Fortunately, as the episode with Ted Rall shows, the Obamacrats are currently held together by a &#8220;weak force&#8221; and are not exactly signing on for political suicide missions, let alone the other kind.  Fascist Cults cannot long abide dissent, however, so they either dissolve into numerous cells or become ever more authoritarian. </p>
<p>If the Obama Democrats were a &#8220;1&#8243; on the ten point Fascist scale while out of power, I would give them a &#8220;2&#8243; thus far, having acquired it. Kim&#8217;s North Korea would be a nine.  Iran? A seven.  Hamas, a six.</p>
<p>Saddam staying in power was fast becoming a defeat for the US on the Iraq front of The Fascist Terror Cult War. Simply by surviving one war with the US, and defying the US for years afterwards, Saddam was winning: gaining prestige and even allies.  US defeat on that front would have been complete with a Saddam &#8220;break out&#8221; from sanctions and eventual acquisition of WMD.  That defeat &#8212; and it would have been major &#8212; was avoided by the Iraq war. </p>
<p>Personally, I was skeptical of turning of Iraq into a model society because, in truth, I did not see the American People as having the patience to do it.  Predictably, every suicide bomb was greeted as evidence of defeat. However, Iraqis have been holding a lot of elections so perhaps the idea of consensual government is taking hold.  If it does, that will be a major victory for America in our War with Fascist Cults.  Assuming, that is, we don&#8217;t lose it at home.</p>
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		<title>By: programmer</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vb@10:

I was going to cut and paste some of your points to comment on,but then as I read them again, I realized you are spot on in your complete comment.

The Dem&#039;s and the Left fought, scratched, and clawed to get to where they could bask in the world&#039;s regard that was bought and paid for with the tears, blood, and sweat of the Bush administration and conservative souls battling in dark places.  Well, congratulations, guys, you now have the con.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vb@10:</p>
<p>I was going to cut and paste some of your points to comment on,but then as I read them again, I realized you are spot on in your complete comment.</p>
<p>The Dem&#8217;s and the Left fought, scratched, and clawed to get to where they could bask in the world&#8217;s regard that was bought and paid for with the tears, blood, and sweat of the Bush administration and conservative souls battling in dark places.  Well, congratulations, guys, you now have the con.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re Bushhitler

The War in Iraq has shown deep weaknesses in our institutions, not much doubt.  The NYT comes to mind.  
On the other hand some have actually been very impressive.  Our military has changed and adapted and won.  Would we could say as much for State.
In the cold light of dawn, Bush is seen as a great war President.  He found his general, backed him alone against the united conventional wisdom, ISG, Joint Chiefs, press, Congress etc and won.  That&#039;s what great Presidents do.  Think Lincoln.

As usual, you need to have some perspective, think your own thoughts and realize we have accomplished a lot.
And say &quot;Well Done.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Bushhitler</p>
<p>The War in Iraq has shown deep weaknesses in our institutions, not much doubt.  The NYT comes to mind.<br />
On the other hand some have actually been very impressive.  Our military has changed and adapted and won.  Would we could say as much for State.<br />
In the cold light of dawn, Bush is seen as a great war President.  He found his general, backed him alone against the united conventional wisdom, ISG, Joint Chiefs, press, Congress etc and won.  That&#8217;s what great Presidents do.  Think Lincoln.</p>
<p>As usual, you need to have some perspective, think your own thoughts and realize we have accomplished a lot.<br />
And say &#8220;Well Done.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the Iraq War started, I thought it would take a long tine to get to some sort of stable condition.  I think in retrospect that last summer was really the end of the beginning.  The conflicts buried in their society have grown out of islam&#039;s tribal history and the conflicts between Arabs and Kurds and Persians.  I dont know that they can be solved.  I think Iraq will eventually be three states.  Getting there will make the Indian partition look like a garden party. &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;But&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; that is not America&#039;s fault.  We have to take people as we find them, not as we hope them to be. I am sorry for the innumerable souls that will suffer through this inevitable process but the Iraqis have to solve it using Iraqi tools. 

I think it is our duty to help as we can. It is also in our interest to do so.  Perhaps they can reach some form of reconciliation over this Hussein thing.  Perhaps they can learn to put up with some competition with allah.  Perhaps pigs will fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the Iraq War started, I thought it would take a long tine to get to some sort of stable condition.  I think in retrospect that last summer was really the end of the beginning.  The conflicts buried in their society have grown out of islam&#8217;s tribal history and the conflicts between Arabs and Kurds and Persians.  I dont know that they can be solved.  I think Iraq will eventually be three states.  Getting there will make the Indian partition look like a garden party. <i><b>But</b></i> that is not America&#8217;s fault.  We have to take people as we find them, not as we hope them to be. I am sorry for the innumerable souls that will suffer through this inevitable process but the Iraqis have to solve it using Iraqi tools. </p>
<p>I think it is our duty to help as we can. It is also in our interest to do so.  Perhaps they can reach some form of reconciliation over this Hussein thing.  Perhaps they can learn to put up with some competition with allah.  Perhaps pigs will fly.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOTM:

I am in the odd position of being a supporter of the war who proposed a meaningful alternative strategy.  I quietly proposed overthrowing the House of Saud as a precursor to overthrowing Saddam Hussein.

It is difficult to say whether my recommendation would have been better than Bush&#039;s strategy.  It may have been worse.  I have supported the liberation of Iraq for many reasons, but one important one is that the principal alternative to liberating Iraq presented by opponents was sitting on our hands and doing nothing other than bowing down to Islamist tyrants.

As it is, the very stalemate that exists in Iraq is a strategic improvement over Saddam Hussein&#039;s regime; I still regard the liberation of Iraq to be a strategic victory.  I had actually expected the situation in Iraq to be considerably worse than it has turned out to be.  It is far from perfect, but it is not quite the disaster I had feared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOTM:</p>
<p>I am in the odd position of being a supporter of the war who proposed a meaningful alternative strategy.  I quietly proposed overthrowing the House of Saud as a precursor to overthrowing Saddam Hussein.</p>
<p>It is difficult to say whether my recommendation would have been better than Bush&#8217;s strategy.  It may have been worse.  I have supported the liberation of Iraq for many reasons, but one important one is that the principal alternative to liberating Iraq presented by opponents was sitting on our hands and doing nothing other than bowing down to Islamist tyrants.</p>
<p>As it is, the very stalemate that exists in Iraq is a strategic improvement over Saddam Hussein&#8217;s regime; I still regard the liberation of Iraq to be a strategic victory.  I had actually expected the situation in Iraq to be considerably worse than it has turned out to be.  It is far from perfect, but it is not quite the disaster I had feared.</p>
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