The biggest danger comes not from North Korea. Or even Iran. They are watched closely and are playing a dangerous game.

The real danger is who we don’t know about. Who is buying Korean tech or hardware? Who among the US allies are arming up, or going to acquire nukes? The world has gotten used to the nutcases getting nukes, not even noticing them. What about the non nutcases?

This is a profoundly dangerous time. The US and Europe are profoundly indifferent to the threats. But who isn’t, and who is going to act on them? I’m not talking Israel.

Your neighbor who you don’t like may have a nuke in 5 years. You could nuke up in response. Or whack them right now. The US isn’t watching or caring.

But what cascading reactions will that create?

What better time to do it?

Derek

(when I hear ‘International Community’, I want to puke)

I once sat through some seminars on the nexus of gang culture and international terrorism in my particular state (NM). One repeated warning was to NEVER discount a thugs claims to be a gangster. If they say they’re a gangster, believe them, because if you disregard/disrespect their claim they will go above and beyond to prove it to you, dramatically. This usually means someone else dies.

But N. Korea is not like that. They are worse. He is like the guy who hacked the little girls arms off and after he got out of jail 20 years later killed a woman.

N. Korea essentially has already tried to rape and kill a little girl but botched the job and thus got off easy. Aside from the Korean War itself, in more recent years they grabbed an American ship, sent commando teams to S. Korea, kidnapped Japanese citizens to use as teachers for their spies, and blew up a South Korean airliner because they were infuriated over S. Korea getting the Olympics. There are reliable reports that they have been involved with various remanents of Warsaw Pact intelligence agencies in global counterfitting and phishing scams.

And their latest tactic is to insist the Sheriff stop driving past their house.

Absolutely spot-on. As far as the developed world goes, North Korea has nothing to sell (e.g. oil) and buys very little (they have little hard currency). If we can’t get our act together on a pariah state like North Korea, we can forget about a state like Iran that actually sells oil and has some money. Sadly, “the end of history” has reverted back to the law of the jungle.

I think we are at a position of having two shots fired, and the hammer is being drawn back on the third.

That’s true.

But, it’s more about collusion of hostile countries who wish to snatch Iraq from the jaws of victory and harm the USA in the process.

It’s no coincidence that both Iran and North Korea conducted hostile military activities over Memorial Day.

If enough hostile adversaries see the US as weak they will certainly try another power grab. Where would they do it?

There are endless possibilities. They could start a rumble in demilitarized zone in South Korea while simultaneously starting an attack in the gulf. This would stretch the US very thin.

Once, one or more of new partners of the Axis of Evil joins the nuclear club the Obama Administration will surely not confront them militarily.

No two ‘nuclear countries’ have gotten into a “hot war” because it’s too dangerous.

After, two or more participants of the New Axis of Evil get the Bomb it will be impossible or the US to assure any Nuclear Umbrella to our allies. Our allies will cut and run. Then it becomes a war of attrition in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and probably in Iraq.

Obama will not confront any nuclear aggressor no matter how many US troop are killed in road side bombs or ambushes. It’s a downward spiral from there – including complete US withdraw.

Although it a humor site there is a grain of truth to the Ten point of appeasement plan by Obama.

[First Conservative]

1. “The United States and its allies must stand up to North Korea,” (Obama in the Rose Garden). Democrats are good at inspiring others to ‘stand up’ for their pet causes. Unfortunately, when the situation requires more than ‘standing up’ and making noise, Democrats are the first to turn tail and look for an exit strategy. That strategy usually includes appeasement. For Democrats, standing up to an adversary loses its luster as a strategy the second the adversary objects. Democrats then look to conservatives for the courage to take action.

2. “The United States and the international community must take action in response,” (Obama Himself). Obama has never understood that there is no ‘international community.’ In fact, most world leftists fail to grasp this. The very concept of a ‘world community’ implies that the citizens of the world are bound together by a common set of objectives and view of the future. Like closing down Guantanamo Detention Center without a workable plan Obama has now committed the ‘international community’ to some form of action – again without a specific plan or idea. This may be a moot point in the UN as the Chosen One will never motivate China and Russia to join with the United States in taking meaningful action. Here again, Obama’s words will only encourage North Korea to continue with its weapons program.

3. “It (DPRK) will not find international acceptance,” (Obama Himself). This of course presumes that North Korea values ‘international acceptance.’ Again, Team Obama must have been drinking beer at the student union when the lessons on negotiation were taking place. A successful negotiation requires that one provide something the adversary wants or provide a credible threat to something the adversary already has – like their very existence. The teen-aged wisdom currently guiding Team Obama holds that having the Chosen One recognize North Korea as a member of the world community (whatever that is) would be enough motivation to cease building and testing atomic weapons…

6. “Such provocations will only serve to deepen North Korea’s isolation.”(Presidential Statement). If isolation meant anything to North Korea, it would have capitulated after the fall of the Soviet Union. What does it mean to be ‘less isolated?’ North Korea is smack between thriving, market driven societies in Japan, South Korea and Communist China. The Chinese are actually pretty good market driven business people themselves, earning trillions of dollars selling the labor of its people on international markets. North Korea cannot become much more ‘isolated’ except by military blockade – with Obama in charge, DPRK knows this will never happen.

http://firstconservative.com/blog/political-humor/political-humor-north-korea-and-president-obama

[Debka speculates]

Most of the missile guidance technology which gave the long-range Seijl 2 surface missile tested by Iran Wednesday, May 20, its bull’s-eye accuracy came from Pyongyang. Iran’s long-range missile test was carried out less than a month after North Korea’s own internationally condemned missile test launch on April 5. Tehran may therefore be expected to be not far behind its nuclear partner in conducting its own first nuclear test. Not surprisingly, therefore, Iran’s president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ruled out negotiations on its nuclear program…

Pyongyang announced early Wednesday, May 27, that its withdrawal from the truce that ended the Korean War in 1953 means that “the Korean peninsulas will go back to a state of war.” Thousands of US troops are deployed in the buffer zone since the war ended.
US spy planes reported that the plutonium separation plant at Yongbyon had been reactivated. North Korea repeated that Seoul’s decision to joint the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative was tantamount to a declaration of war. “Any hostile acts against our republic, including the stopping and searching of our peaceful vessels… will face an immediate and strong military strike in response,” the North Korean statement said from the North’s military representative at the border truce village of Panmunjom.

See: Debka
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6091

But we did repond publicly despite what Gibbs said. Hilary already did in a moronic way by giving an empty threat there will be consequences and then promising that NK can come back to the table.

Why or why did the voters vote in an inexperienced child and his playmates?

Yeah, no one doubts that these countries have the capability to produce nukes. It’s the public declaration of their intent to do so, and then the follow through, that should concern the Chinese.

That is why the Pakistani and Indian tests several years ago got everyones attention.

I would expect that, if NK were going about this in a very low key way, that it wouldn’t be as big an issue, even if the end results would eventually be the same. That doesn’t make a lot of sense, I know, but I think it’s true.

They are almost guaranteeing, by their very public and belligerent pursuit of this issue, that the entire East Asian region will, in the near future, become open, nuclear capable powers. That’s what I think should worry China, and I don’t understand why it doesn’t seem to.

Let the big show begin.