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		<title>By: Subotai Bahadur</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/05/05/as-apple-pie/#comment-51082</link>
		<dc:creator>Subotai Bahadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add grain of salt to Mr. Hennessy&#039;s analysis.  It makes the assumption that there is a certain stability in the rules applied by the government.  Time after time in the this the first year of the &lt;em&gt;Anno Obama&lt;/em&gt;, that stability has been lacking, and always to the detriment of those who have put their faith in the laws and the impartial application thereof. 

Subotai Bahadur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add grain of salt to Mr. Hennessy&#8217;s analysis.  It makes the assumption that there is a certain stability in the rules applied by the government.  Time after time in the this the first year of the <em>Anno Obama</em>, that stability has been lacking, and always to the detriment of those who have put their faith in the laws and the impartial application thereof. </p>
<p>Subotai Bahadur</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/05/05/as-apple-pie/#comment-51063</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 23:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/78188/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KEITH HENNESSY&lt;/a&gt; on the stress tests.

       Posted at 2:41 pm by Glenn Reynolds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/78188/" rel="nofollow">KEITH HENNESSY</a> on the stress tests.</p>
<p>       Posted at 2:41 pm by Glenn Reynolds</p>
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		<title>By: johnclubvec</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/05/05/as-apple-pie/#comment-51047</link>
		<dc:creator>johnclubvec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://keithhennessey.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Keith Hennessey&lt;/a&gt; is blogging. Why you should care:

===

About Keith Hennessey

I worked as the senior White House economic advisor to President George W. Bush.  My job was to coordinate economic policy for the President, including financial market issues, tax policy, energy and climate change, health care, pensions, Social Security and Medicare reform, housing, transportation, technology and telecommunications, and agriculture.  I also worked on budget issues and international trade and financial issues.

From August 2002 through the end of 2007, I served as Deputy Assistant to the President for Economic Policy and Deputy Director of the National Economic Council at the White House.  In 2008 and 2009, I was Assistant to the President for Economic Policy and Director of the National Economic Council, a position now held by Dr. Larry Summers for President Obama.  I spent most of my waking hours for almost six and half years of my life here, based in #19 and then #18.

I’m now taking some time off to recover from 6+ years in the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://keithhennessey.com/" rel="nofollow">Keith Hennessey</a> is blogging. Why you should care:</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>About Keith Hennessey</p>
<p>I worked as the senior White House economic advisor to President George W. Bush.  My job was to coordinate economic policy for the President, including financial market issues, tax policy, energy and climate change, health care, pensions, Social Security and Medicare reform, housing, transportation, technology and telecommunications, and agriculture.  I also worked on budget issues and international trade and financial issues.</p>
<p>From August 2002 through the end of 2007, I served as Deputy Assistant to the President for Economic Policy and Deputy Director of the National Economic Council at the White House.  In 2008 and 2009, I was Assistant to the President for Economic Policy and Director of the National Economic Council, a position now held by Dr. Larry Summers for President Obama.  I spent most of my waking hours for almost six and half years of my life here, based in #19 and then #18.</p>
<p>I’m now taking some time off to recover from 6+ years in the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT. Charles</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/05/05/as-apple-pie/#comment-51039</link>
		<dc:creator>CPT. Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the perception of our current &#039;problems&#039; goes back further than you might think...

http://rightbias.com/News/video23.aspx

Watch, and be amazed at someone[s] foresight.

P.S.---this vid should go viral...consider spreading it to as many people as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the perception of our current &#8216;problems&#8217; goes back further than you might think&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://rightbias.com/News/video23.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://rightbias.com/News/video23.aspx</a></p>
<p>Watch, and be amazed at someone[s] foresight.</p>
<p>P.S.&#8212;this vid should go viral&#8230;consider spreading it to as many people as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Subotai Bahadur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Subotai Bahadur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#130 twobyfour and #133 Habu,

In a perfect world, yes that might work.  However, we are fighting not just a one front battle with the Democrats, but actually a two front battle with the Republicans on our other flank.

&lt;em&gt;In the interim the RNC can develop policies that are similar to the Contract with America.&lt;/em&gt;

That ain&#039;t gonna happen.  The RNC is as much at war with Conservatives and Patriots of all stripes as the Obama Democrats.  

There are not enough Conservatives and Patriots to fight both fronts within the system, even if the enemy would keep to one set of rules.  We know that the Democrats have no respect for laws and rules and will change/ignore them retroactively if they are losing.  I myself have seen the Republican leadership do the same in nominating battles.  

One can make the rational argument that the situation where we are facing a combination of Alinsky and Pierre Laval is such that no manual of electoral politics or economic theory will prevent our defeat.  We must move outside the enemies&#039; zone of comfort and control, and I suspect that in the end it will require a different text.  Perhaps Clausewitz or von Dach.

Subotai Bahadur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#130 twobyfour and #133 Habu,</p>
<p>In a perfect world, yes that might work.  However, we are fighting not just a one front battle with the Democrats, but actually a two front battle with the Republicans on our other flank.</p>
<p><em>In the interim the RNC can develop policies that are similar to the Contract with America.</em></p>
<p>That ain&#8217;t gonna happen.  The RNC is as much at war with Conservatives and Patriots of all stripes as the Obama Democrats.  </p>
<p>There are not enough Conservatives and Patriots to fight both fronts within the system, even if the enemy would keep to one set of rules.  We know that the Democrats have no respect for laws and rules and will change/ignore them retroactively if they are losing.  I myself have seen the Republican leadership do the same in nominating battles.  </p>
<p>One can make the rational argument that the situation where we are facing a combination of Alinsky and Pierre Laval is such that no manual of electoral politics or economic theory will prevent our defeat.  We must move outside the enemies&#8217; zone of comfort and control, and I suspect that in the end it will require a different text.  Perhaps Clausewitz or von Dach.</p>
<p>Subotai Bahadur</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot wait for the Obamites to force the banks to buy out the Union&#039;s share of Chrylser and GM before they close them down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot wait for the Obamites to force the banks to buy out the Union&#8217;s share of Chrylser and GM before they close them down.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 14:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Demographic Profile of Los Angeles would seem to make a Conservative Victory there impossible for the foreseeable future.
BUT
Turnout is miniscule.
The last election was 12% I believe.
TWELVE PERCENT!
...thus, a straightforward program to energize the base could easily result in victory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Demographic Profile of Los Angeles would seem to make a Conservative Victory there impossible for the foreseeable future.<br />
BUT<br />
Turnout is miniscule.<br />
The last election was 12% I believe.<br />
TWELVE PERCENT!<br />
&#8230;thus, a straightforward program to energize the base could easily result in victory.</p>
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		<title>By: Habu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 14:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>134. Paul Milenkovic

We didn&#039;t mention #4 but in infiltrating the Democratic Party at the county level AR #4 (Alinsky Rule) comes heavily into play.

They have procedures and by laws governing meetings etc. Learn them and use them against any meeting you attend. If they use Roberts Rules of Order then constantly tie up the meeting with calls for points of order or one that DEMANDS an immediate vote...a motion to adjourn. &lt;b&gt; use their rules against them&lt;/b&gt;

This is also where (and I&#039;ve mentioned this a zillion times) an full understanding of Federalist #10 comes into play. It is not necessary to have an overwhelming number of attendees at any given county meeting. Factions as James Madison pointed out are fatal to governments everywhere and that extends on the micro level to parties. It is also important to understand Federalist #9
by Alexander Hamilton.

Finally from the most unlikely of people we find the best (for the moment) advice &lt;b&gt; Agitiate, agitate, agitate...abolitionist Fredrick Douglas&lt;/b&gt;. For too long the Republicans have been passive in guarding the Constitutional Rights granted our nation. Afraid to speak out, afraid to lose their material goods and sterling reputations. I have even advised those with jobs and families to remain stealthy in the cause of protecting what we have, but that doesn&#039;t mean to remain deaf and dumb. DO SOMETHING to disrupt the Democrats in your area.

It is only going to remain a republic if we guard it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>134. Paul Milenkovic</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t mention #4 but in infiltrating the Democratic Party at the county level AR #4 (Alinsky Rule) comes heavily into play.</p>
<p>They have procedures and by laws governing meetings etc. Learn them and use them against any meeting you attend. If they use Roberts Rules of Order then constantly tie up the meeting with calls for points of order or one that DEMANDS an immediate vote&#8230;a motion to adjourn. <b> use their rules against them</b></p>
<p>This is also where (and I&#8217;ve mentioned this a zillion times) an full understanding of Federalist #10 comes into play. It is not necessary to have an overwhelming number of attendees at any given county meeting. Factions as James Madison pointed out are fatal to governments everywhere and that extends on the micro level to parties. It is also important to understand Federalist #9<br />
by Alexander Hamilton.</p>
<p>Finally from the most unlikely of people we find the best (for the moment) advice <b> Agitiate, agitate, agitate&#8230;abolitionist Fredrick Douglas</b>. For too long the Republicans have been passive in guarding the Constitutional Rights granted our nation. Afraid to speak out, afraid to lose their material goods and sterling reputations. I have even advised those with jobs and families to remain stealthy in the cause of protecting what we have, but that doesn&#8217;t mean to remain deaf and dumb. DO SOMETHING to disrupt the Democrats in your area.</p>
<p>It is only going to remain a republic if we guard it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Milenkovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Milenkovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first they ignore you, then they mock you (#5, #13), then they fight you (all the other Alinsky rules brought to bear), and then you win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first they ignore you, then they mock you (#5, #13), then they fight you (all the other Alinsky rules brought to bear), and then you win.</p>
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		<title>By: Habu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>130. twobyfour:
 Now seriously… how can we successfully counteract Alinsky’s manual?

Probably the easiest way would be infiltration, a cancer to erode/dilute the Democratic Party.

All Republicans register as Democrats, go tho the country meetings and create a confrontational atmosphere by asking hard questions, promoting candidates outside the now Democratic norm and in general use Alinsky tactics 3,4, 8 and 10 to begin with.
Then vote Republican after causing turmoil within the Democratic Party.

In the interim the RNC can develop policies that are similar to the Contract with America.

The Left use to call this co-opting and it worked for them.


ALINKSY’S 13 RULES OF POWER TACTICS 

In his book, Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals, Alinsky recommended &quot;power tactics&quot; to solve the kinds of problems that organizers and stewards often encounter. &quot;Tactics are those consciously deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them,&quot; wrote Alinsky. 

1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have. 

2. Never go outside the experience of your people. It may result in confusion, fear and retreat. 

3. Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear and retreat. 

4. Make the enemy live up to his/her own book of rules. 

5. Ridicule is man&#039;s most potent weapon. 

6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. 

7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. 

8. Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions and utilize all events of the period for your purpose. 

9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. 

10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. 

11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.

12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>130. twobyfour:<br />
 Now seriously… how can we successfully counteract Alinsky’s manual?</p>
<p>Probably the easiest way would be infiltration, a cancer to erode/dilute the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>All Republicans register as Democrats, go tho the country meetings and create a confrontational atmosphere by asking hard questions, promoting candidates outside the now Democratic norm and in general use Alinsky tactics 3,4, 8 and 10 to begin with.<br />
Then vote Republican after causing turmoil within the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>In the interim the RNC can develop policies that are similar to the Contract with America.</p>
<p>The Left use to call this co-opting and it worked for them.</p>
<p>ALINKSY’S 13 RULES OF POWER TACTICS </p>
<p>In his book, Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals, Alinsky recommended &#8220;power tactics&#8221; to solve the kinds of problems that organizers and stewards often encounter. &#8220;Tactics are those consciously deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them,&#8221; wrote Alinsky. </p>
<p>1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have. </p>
<p>2. Never go outside the experience of your people. It may result in confusion, fear and retreat. </p>
<p>3. Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear and retreat. </p>
<p>4. Make the enemy live up to his/her own book of rules. </p>
<p>5. Ridicule is man&#8217;s most potent weapon. </p>
<p>6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy. </p>
<p>7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. </p>
<p>8. Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions and utilize all events of the period for your purpose. </p>
<p>9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. </p>
<p>10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. </p>
<p>11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.</p>
<p>12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.</p>
<p>13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.</p>
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