Comments on: The Twelve Monkeys http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:45:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: buddy larsen http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48877 buddy larsen Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:44:57 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48877 derek, i think you are at a 50/50 proposition --there's still time to retreat from the abyss --that's the other 50. derek, i think you are at a 50/50 proposition –there’s still time to retreat from the abyss –that’s the other 50.

]]> By: Derek http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48835 Derek Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:16:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48835 I think that there is more involved. WW1 was mentioned. Churchill described a march to madness, where all the decisions made no sense, were in no one's interest and eventually destroyed just about everyone involved. The mess we are in today is similar. The political class is totally disconnected from reality. Look at the reaction to Islamists. The US gov't has borrowed or printed trillions of dollars and essentially given it to Wall Street. There is talk of a health bill being pushed through the senate with no deliberation. 17% of the economy. The political class knows no limit, and will along with many others, be destroyed before this is through. There is a madness afoot today that won't be sated until blood runs in the streets. Derek I think that there is more involved. WW1 was mentioned. Churchill described a march to madness, where all the decisions made no sense, were in no one’s interest and eventually destroyed just about everyone involved.

The mess we are in today is similar. The political class is totally disconnected from reality. Look at the reaction to Islamists. The US gov’t has borrowed or printed trillions of dollars and essentially given it to Wall Street. There is talk of a health bill being pushed through the senate with no deliberation. 17% of the economy. The political class knows no limit, and will along with many others, be destroyed before this is through.

There is a madness afoot today that won’t be sated until blood runs in the streets.

Derek

]]> By: HV http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48675 HV Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:00:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48675 My anecdote for what it's worth - I heard from a London banker in 2007 that a Depression-like catastrophe was coming. This was his assessment of where the then already unraveling real estate bubble was heading. At the time I thought it must surely be an exaggeration, but it got me to start looking more closely at the problems, for example as described in the FT well before the Fall crash. I especially remember a long article in the FT about the derivatives markets that I read in the spring of 2008 that had me in a panic. I thank God every day for those early warnings. My anecdote for what it’s worth – I heard from a London banker in 2007 that a Depression-like catastrophe was coming. This was his assessment of where the then already unraveling real estate bubble was heading. At the time I thought it must surely be an exaggeration, but it got me to start looking more closely at the problems, for example as described in the FT well before the Fall crash. I especially remember a long article in the FT about the derivatives markets that I read in the spring of 2008 that had me in a panic. I thank God every day for those early warnings.

]]> By: orlandoslug http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48671 orlandoslug Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:38:49 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48671 kinda late; but... Mohawk's move is tied to the coming green tide... ...if you're green, and you're ahead of the curve, you're gonna get work thrown your way! as obamania pushes thru mandates in order to enlighten us in hopes of us becoming tre' continental - those in the "know" will be rewarded for their enlightenment! in B.O.'s mind, all the knuckle-dragging Bubba's in fly-over country might be dragged into the present century if he can create mechanisms for them to see the light, as the Europeans and the bourgeois from around the world (except; er, the Chinese and Indians) have already so readily grasped. voi-la! Charity is to raise all intellectual boats together by allowing the enlightened to make choices for the less intelligent... in the waning era of the 3rd generation of america (throes of FDR-ism), regulatory mandate will be the tool of choice with the rational of trying to save the proletariat from the cesspool of his existence - something Bubba, nor his representative official might never choose on their own! I apologize for the diatribe... back to Mohawk - they, along with everyone else with politically correct, green, make up stand to benefit from the regulations coming down the pike... Mohawk LEEDs the way in recycle content in their products (despite being more expensive), and by jove, the rampant marketplace is not what's it's cracked up to be and needs to be tweaked in order to save us from ourselves... while denouncing conservatives for being greedy the enlightened will line the pockets of the politically correct thru manipulation of the regulatory body... ...who will be hit? of course the proletariat; but, then again, he had a miserable existence to begin with... kinda late; but…
Mohawk’s move is tied to the coming green tide…

…if you’re green, and you’re ahead of the curve, you’re gonna get work thrown your way!

as obamania pushes thru mandates in order to enlighten us in hopes of us becoming tre’ continental – those in the “know” will be rewarded for their enlightenment!

in B.O.’s mind, all the knuckle-dragging Bubba’s in fly-over country might be dragged into the present century if he can create mechanisms for them to see the light, as the Europeans and the bourgeois from around the world (except; er, the Chinese and Indians) have already so readily grasped.

voi-la!

Charity is to raise all intellectual boats together by allowing the enlightened to make choices for the less intelligent…

in the waning era of the 3rd generation of america (throes of FDR-ism), regulatory mandate will be the tool of choice with the rational of trying to save the proletariat from the cesspool of his existence – something Bubba, nor his representative official might never choose on their own!

I apologize for the diatribe…

back to Mohawk – they, along with everyone else with politically correct, green, make up stand to benefit from the regulations coming down the pike…

Mohawk LEEDs the way in recycle content in their products (despite being more expensive), and by jove, the rampant marketplace is not what’s it’s cracked up to be and needs to be tweaked in order to save us from ourselves…

while denouncing conservatives for being greedy the enlightened will line the pockets of the politically correct thru manipulation of the regulatory body…

…who will be hit? of course the proletariat; but, then again, he had a miserable existence to begin with…

]]> By: buddy larsen http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48644 buddy larsen Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:10:11 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48644 RWE --heck, we gotta eat anyway right? might as well lock up the brakes right about HERE :-D RWE –heck, we gotta eat anyway right? might as well lock up the brakes right about HERE
:-D

]]> By: RWE http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48609 RWE Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:51:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48609 Buddy: Based on observations of certain roadside vendors here in Florida, the surest way to make money selling hotdawgs is to have the advertising, dispensing, cash receipt, and possibly even the cooking of product be done by a stunning young lady wearing the smallest swimsuit imaginable. That gets results. And have an ambulance and tow truck standing by for the inevitable rear end collisions that will result as well. Buddy:

Based on observations of certain roadside vendors here in Florida, the surest way to make money selling hotdawgs is to have the advertising, dispensing, cash receipt, and possibly even the cooking of product be done by a stunning young lady wearing the smallest swimsuit imaginable. That gets results.

And have an ambulance and tow truck standing by for the inevitable rear end collisions that will result as well.

]]> By: buddy larsen http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48532 buddy larsen Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:09:54 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48532 if i was starting a hot dog cart venture, i'd have a good-size griddle and toast the boiled weinies and the open buns on it with a little butter --per order. a chili dog --i wouldn't offer a single messy wasteful unsanitary condiment, not even kechup and mustard, but would have a zesty chili pot --chopped onions added a little at a time thru the day to keep 'em half raw & crunchy. that'd be the sole item on the menu --a chili dog, wrapped & bagged for take-out. make a packaged single of processed cheeze and a small bag of healthy chips for the asking, no extra charge. i'd have a good variety of healthy (to balance the dog) single serve glass bottle fruit soft drinks on ice and in view, with a prominent sign re my green return of reuseable empties, if you'll bring yours back. of course you'll want to buy from a vendor who does take back and reuse. this is marketing as much as anything real for Gaia. Anyhoo you get the dog, chips, cheese, and drink for five bucks. no subs, except if you don't want one or more of the items dropped in the bag. Still $5, the cook running the cash register and all, gotta keep it simple. and i'd make it a rule not to overwork, so i could be rested and cheerful with the customers --er, clients. I might even do it up 50s style and wear a white casual long sleeved dress shirt (have two changes), bow tie, and small modified chef's hat (a toque is it called?). a dozen office max folding chairs for those who want to eat by the Kart. Everyone gets a Bounty paper towel and a mint (for the post prandial onion, er, breath). PS --it's gotta be gooood chili. canned is fine but hype it with kept-crunchy bell peppers and onions. blow 'em away in Chi-town with instead of salt Tony Chacherie's Original Creole Seasoning, or instead of salt n pepper Zatarain's Creole Seasoning. And a dash of Tabasco. then you can call it a New Orleans Chili Dog and start listening to French language tapes in the Kart when biz is slow. pretty soon you'll be a virtual cajun and they don't never worry about nuthin. if i was starting a hot dog cart venture, i’d have a good-size griddle and toast the boiled weinies and the open buns on it with a little butter –per order. a chili dog –i wouldn’t offer a single messy wasteful unsanitary condiment, not even kechup and mustard, but would have a zesty chili pot –chopped onions added a little at a time thru the day to keep ‘em half raw & crunchy. that’d be the sole item on the menu –a chili dog, wrapped & bagged for take-out. make a packaged single of processed cheeze and a small bag of healthy chips for the asking, no extra charge. i’d have a good variety of healthy (to balance the dog) single serve glass bottle fruit soft drinks on ice and in view, with a prominent sign re my green return of reuseable empties, if you’ll bring yours back. of course you’ll want to buy from a vendor who does take back and reuse. this is marketing as much as anything real for Gaia. Anyhoo you get the dog, chips, cheese, and drink for five bucks. no subs, except if you don’t want one or more of the items dropped in the bag. Still $5, the cook running the cash register and all, gotta keep it simple. and i’d make it a rule not to overwork, so i could be rested and cheerful with the customers –er, clients. I might even do it up 50s style and wear a white casual long sleeved dress shirt (have two changes), bow tie, and small modified chef’s hat (a toque is it called?). a dozen office max folding chairs for those who want to eat by the Kart. Everyone gets a Bounty paper towel and a mint (for the post prandial onion, er, breath). PS –it’s gotta be gooood chili. canned is fine but hype it with kept-crunchy bell peppers and onions. blow ‘em away in Chi-town with instead of salt Tony Chacherie’s Original Creole Seasoning, or instead of salt n pepper Zatarain’s Creole Seasoning. And a dash of Tabasco. then you can call it a New Orleans Chili Dog and start listening to French language tapes in the Kart when biz is slow. pretty soon you’ll be a virtual cajun and they don’t never worry about nuthin.

]]> By: buddy larsen http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48513 buddy larsen Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:22:10 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48513 oh no, buzz --i got the big picture on those two --i wouldn't let 'em sleep in the hog pens unlest i could keep an eye on 'em at all times. Yikes, perish THAT thought -- oh no, buzz –i got the big picture on those two –i wouldn’t let ‘em sleep in the hog pens unlest i could keep an eye on ‘em at all times. Yikes, perish THAT thought –

]]> By: joe buzz http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48508 joe buzz Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:17:58 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48508 The two queens of congress knew it all and didnt know a thing. They are taking lessons from TOTUS. Buddy dont let google fool your "their politics" get in the way of the facts. Vander, you didnt have to live in Cali to see it coming. I lived in Loudoun Co, VA which was among the fastest growing in the country during that time slot and the bubble overwhelmed us..... The two queens of congress knew it all and didnt know a thing. They are taking lessons from TOTUS. Buddy dont let google fool your “their politics” get in the way of the facts. Vander, you didnt have to live in Cali to see it coming. I lived in Loudoun Co, VA which was among the fastest growing in the country during that time slot and the bubble overwhelmed us…..

]]> By: buddy larsen http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/24/the-twelve-monkeys/#comment-48502 buddy larsen Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:55:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=3444#comment-48502 rjsasko, <a href="http://www.google.com/finance?q=mhk" rel="nofollow">here's the whole schmear</a> including a great interactive price/volume chart (play with it --it expands and changes scales per mouse). 52 wk high 80 makes the 50 close look less like a bon-ton-roulette and more a slight recovery of enormous lost ground. OTOH, 52 wk low of 16 makes that 50 close today look hot. anyhoo this link will take you ALL the latest dope plus news of competitors and scuttlebutt of takeover or buyout --also some forums --google finance is so good i really wish their politics would hurry and catch up. rjsasko, here’s the whole schmear including a great interactive price/volume chart (play with it –it expands and changes scales per mouse). 52 wk high 80 makes the 50 close look less like a bon-ton-roulette and more a slight recovery of enormous lost ground. OTOH, 52 wk low of 16 makes that 50 close today look hot. anyhoo this link will take you ALL the latest dope plus news of competitors and scuttlebutt of takeover or buyout –also some forums –google finance is so good i really wish their politics would hurry and catch up.

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