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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/03/thirty-2/#comment-45279</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that was before the hard left turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that was before the hard left turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Nine-of-Diamonds</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/03/thirty-2/#comment-45270</link>
		<dc:creator>Nine-of-Diamonds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dirty Harry, as soon as soon as the DNC &amp; Kremlin get done driving American caucasions into a bloc vote.&quot;

That&#039;s precisely what I was trying to get Boonton &amp; Benj to realize on an earlier thread. As I said to them, the skinhead forums were jubilant on November 5th for a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dirty Harry, as soon as soon as the DNC &amp; Kremlin get done driving American caucasions into a bloc vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s precisely what I was trying to get Boonton &amp; Benj to realize on an earlier thread. As I said to them, the skinhead forums were jubilant on November 5th for a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Belmont Club &#187; And then the ship seemed to momentarily rise in the water</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belmont Club &#187; And then the ship seemed to momentarily rise in the water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] parent company, the NYT, may not last long either. The old news model is in serious difficulties. When they go down there [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] parent company, the NYT, may not last long either. The old news model is in serious difficulties. When they go down there [...]</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/03/thirty-2/#comment-44886</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;pious narcissistic nimrods&lt;/i&gt; --damn, that&#039;s the perfect three words i&#039;ve been looking for --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>pious narcissistic nimrods</i> &#8211;damn, that&#8217;s the perfect three words i&#8217;ve been looking for &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/03/thirty-2/#comment-44885</link>
		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good points, gals --those 400 NYTimes reporters deliver a lot of content --and as Lucy says, one can still figure out the gist of news items from them, just read between their lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good points, gals &#8211;those 400 NYTimes reporters deliver a lot of content &#8211;and as Lucy says, one can still figure out the gist of news items from them, just read between their lines.</p>
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		<title>By: rrpjr</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/03/thirty-2/#comment-44882</link>
		<dc:creator>rrpjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”

Funny but also sinkingly familiar. After a lifetime living among these pious narcissistic nimrods I can say with authority that nothing changes, nothing surprises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”</p>
<p>Funny but also sinkingly familiar. After a lifetime living among these pious narcissistic nimrods I can say with authority that nothing changes, nothing surprises.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/03/thirty-2/#comment-44879</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When I was a child I spoke as a child I understood as a child I thought as a child; but when I became a (wo)man I put away childish things.&quot; I Cor. xiii. 11.

When I see a story in the NYS now, I pick it apart as I&#039;m reading.  Is this food article slanted too much toward a gay lifestyle?  Is this movie or book review too slanted to the left to be trusted?  Is the history correct?   Everything, absolutely everything, in there is spun.  Except their disdain of us--middle America--that&#039;s accurate.

The pictures in the magazine section are often nice, though, and in focus, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When I was a child I spoke as a child I understood as a child I thought as a child; but when I became a (wo)man I put away childish things.&#8221; I Cor. xiii. 11.</p>
<p>When I see a story in the NYS now, I pick it apart as I&#8217;m reading.  Is this food article slanted too much toward a gay lifestyle?  Is this movie or book review too slanted to the left to be trusted?  Is the history correct?   Everything, absolutely everything, in there is spun.  Except their disdain of us&#8211;middle America&#8211;that&#8217;s accurate.</p>
<p>The pictures in the magazine section are often nice, though, and in focus, too!</p>
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		<title>By: buckets</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/04/03/thirty-2/#comment-44870</link>
		<dc:creator>buckets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add that supporting Adlai Stevenson did not necessarily make one a liberal.  The old-Democrats often favored national defense, acted as loyal opposition when the country was in crisis, and helped establish the basic social safety net (SS, welfare) that we have today.  Those aren&#039;t all necessarily bad things.

The modern leftist, it is true, may trace his political beliefs back to the traditional Democratic party.  But something happened along the way that caused a divergence - the Left incubated more from the Soviet fellow traveler movement than from mainstream Democrats.  Dems like Truman and JFK, however myriad their faults, still believed in liberty and were loyal to the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add that supporting Adlai Stevenson did not necessarily make one a liberal.  The old-Democrats often favored national defense, acted as loyal opposition when the country was in crisis, and helped establish the basic social safety net (SS, welfare) that we have today.  Those aren&#8217;t all necessarily bad things.</p>
<p>The modern leftist, it is true, may trace his political beliefs back to the traditional Democratic party.  But something happened along the way that caused a divergence &#8211; the Left incubated more from the Soviet fellow traveler movement than from mainstream Democrats.  Dems like Truman and JFK, however myriad their faults, still believed in liberty and were loyal to the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: marymcl</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully the Sunday puzzles are available in book form and presumably will remain so.

But speaking as an ex-pat New Yorker, (albeit from a Daily News family) watching the decline and fall of the Times in recent years has been a very sad thing. And where, one wonders, will all the other urban dailies get their lead stories once the NYT goes under? Seems to me if the Times goes, many others will follow. And despite the fact they brought this on themselves, the general decline of newspapers is not good for the country. Bloggers don&#039;t gather news, they comment on it. Who has the resources or manpower or prestige of an organization like the Times? (BTW I&#039;m not arguing in favor of bailing out newspapers - in fact I&#039;m quite worried it may happen. This is one of those situations where all choices look bad and the best we can hope for is avoiding the worst)

I too miss the NY Sun. A lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully the Sunday puzzles are available in book form and presumably will remain so.</p>
<p>But speaking as an ex-pat New Yorker, (albeit from a Daily News family) watching the decline and fall of the Times in recent years has been a very sad thing. And where, one wonders, will all the other urban dailies get their lead stories once the NYT goes under? Seems to me if the Times goes, many others will follow. And despite the fact they brought this on themselves, the general decline of newspapers is not good for the country. Bloggers don&#8217;t gather news, they comment on it. Who has the resources or manpower or prestige of an organization like the Times? (BTW I&#8217;m not arguing in favor of bailing out newspapers &#8211; in fact I&#8217;m quite worried it may happen. This is one of those situations where all choices look bad and the best we can hope for is avoiding the worst)</p>
<p>I too miss the NY Sun. A lot.</p>
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		<title>By: ledger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ledger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The obituary for the NYT just would signal some of the shareholders may actually get a tiny percentage of their investment back. But, “Stake Holders” like Obama and the DNC would have larger loses – they would have to move to CNN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obituary for the NYT just would signal some of the shareholders may actually get a tiny percentage of their investment back. But, “Stake Holders” like Obama and the DNC would have larger loses – they would have to move to CNN.</p>
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