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		<title>By: what is occupation</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40692</link>
		<dc:creator>what is occupation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hezbollah, Syria, Iran &amp; The Palestinians are playing with fire.....

The left in israel is dead...

Arafat started the death blow by refusing to accept a peace deal at Taba..

Sharon by dragging Jews from gaza and watching the greenhouses get looted, hamas tossing fatah from rooftops and using the strip as a base for iranian rockets has PROVED to 79% of Israelis that there cannot be &quot;peace&quot; with Iran, Hezbollah, Syria &amp; the Palestinians (hamas &amp; fatah)...

Separation is the only way...

In fact what we are now waiting for is a reasonable reason to start the destruction....

Israel will NOT go into the night quietly... and a BHO administration hostile to Israel HASTENS the moment Israel will destroy her enemies...

fasten the seatbelts we like in interesting times...

Now couple all of that with Iran having solid fuel 2-3 stage rockets and the possibility of an Iranian EMP...

Iran might just hit Arabia with a nuke...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hezbollah, Syria, Iran &amp; The Palestinians are playing with fire&#8230;..</p>
<p>The left in israel is dead&#8230;</p>
<p>Arafat started the death blow by refusing to accept a peace deal at Taba..</p>
<p>Sharon by dragging Jews from gaza and watching the greenhouses get looted, hamas tossing fatah from rooftops and using the strip as a base for iranian rockets has PROVED to 79% of Israelis that there cannot be &#8220;peace&#8221; with Iran, Hezbollah, Syria &amp; the Palestinians (hamas &amp; fatah)&#8230;</p>
<p>Separation is the only way&#8230;</p>
<p>In fact what we are now waiting for is a reasonable reason to start the destruction&#8230;.</p>
<p>Israel will NOT go into the night quietly&#8230; and a BHO administration hostile to Israel HASTENS the moment Israel will destroy her enemies&#8230;</p>
<p>fasten the seatbelts we like in interesting times&#8230;</p>
<p>Now couple all of that with Iran having solid fuel 2-3 stage rockets and the possibility of an Iranian EMP&#8230;</p>
<p>Iran might just hit Arabia with a nuke&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 49erDweet</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40678</link>
		<dc:creator>49erDweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to &lt;i&gt;Nahn Cee&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; point one must be a little brighter than stupid to comprehend the complexity of her rationale.  Unfortunately the happy handlers of the current administation fall short of this mark.  Won&#039;t be long before the &quot;something stupid&quot; mentioned will be borne out in spades.  Stand by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to <i>Nahn Cee&#8217;s</i> point one must be a little brighter than stupid to comprehend the complexity of her rationale.  Unfortunately the happy handlers of the current administation fall short of this mark.  Won&#8217;t be long before the &#8220;something stupid&#8221; mentioned will be borne out in spades.  Stand by.</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40636</link>
		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t talking and talking what got Europe into WW2?  And not taking action when certain maniacs were doing maniacal things?  Therefore and thusly, it seems to me that merely talking and talking could very well be termed &quot;doing something really stupid&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t talking and talking what got Europe into WW2?  And not taking action when certain maniacs were doing maniacal things?  Therefore and thusly, it seems to me that merely talking and talking could very well be termed &#8220;doing something really stupid&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Utopia Parkway</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40625</link>
		<dc:creator>Utopia Parkway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far Obama and Co haven&#039;t really done anything really stupid regarding foreign affairs, that is to say, regarding the ME.  They&#039;ve been talking about talking but so far all the bad guys have said either that they won&#039;t be talking or that if they do talk they won&#039;t be changing.  Iran, Hamas, Syria, HB, etc.  Talk maybe, change no.  OTOH, Iran may just be trying to run out the clock.

Regarding the Volcker letter if you see the other signatories you&#039;ll see that this isn&#039;t news.  We knew what Ted Brzinski&#039;s opinion was on Israel a while ago.  The fact that he&#039;s urging the Pres to talk to Israel&#039;s enemies, aka terrorists, isn&#039;t news.  I think the letter is a few months old also.

In the end, if the intl community doesn&#039;t support Israel there will be war.  There may be war anyway of course.  One of the Bush administration&#039;s biggest blunders in the ME was forcing Israel and the PA to allow Hamas to be part of the elections without forcing it to renounce violence.  Thank you Dr. Rice. The results have been the strengthening of Hamas, violence, the weakening of Abbass and his party, and the movement of the Israeli public to the right and also convincing it that Peace is impossible. 

If attempts are made to engage HB and Hamas without strong demands that they moderate the results will be the same.  Strengthening of radicals, weakening of moderates, and continued violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far Obama and Co haven&#8217;t really done anything really stupid regarding foreign affairs, that is to say, regarding the ME.  They&#8217;ve been talking about talking but so far all the bad guys have said either that they won&#8217;t be talking or that if they do talk they won&#8217;t be changing.  Iran, Hamas, Syria, HB, etc.  Talk maybe, change no.  OTOH, Iran may just be trying to run out the clock.</p>
<p>Regarding the Volcker letter if you see the other signatories you&#8217;ll see that this isn&#8217;t news.  We knew what Ted Brzinski&#8217;s opinion was on Israel a while ago.  The fact that he&#8217;s urging the Pres to talk to Israel&#8217;s enemies, aka terrorists, isn&#8217;t news.  I think the letter is a few months old also.</p>
<p>In the end, if the intl community doesn&#8217;t support Israel there will be war.  There may be war anyway of course.  One of the Bush administration&#8217;s biggest blunders in the ME was forcing Israel and the PA to allow Hamas to be part of the elections without forcing it to renounce violence.  Thank you Dr. Rice. The results have been the strengthening of Hamas, violence, the weakening of Abbass and his party, and the movement of the Israeli public to the right and also convincing it that Peace is impossible. </p>
<p>If attempts are made to engage HB and Hamas without strong demands that they moderate the results will be the same.  Strengthening of radicals, weakening of moderates, and continued violence.</p>
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		<title>By: hdgreene</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40611</link>
		<dc:creator>hdgreene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We still have a trump card for their trump cards.  Jeb Bush in 2012!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We still have a trump card for their trump cards.  Jeb Bush in 2012!</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40598</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whiskey: &quot;Israel....can realize time is running out and the second Holocaust looms. People will do anything to survive. ANYTHING.&quot;

I know that, you all here know that, the American people know that, and more importantly I think the Israelis (down deep inside) know that, but does O&#039;Bamma?  Does Hezbollah?

Part of our problem is that the current American regime lacks a fundamental understanding of the necessity for survival and how it justifies a host of extraordinary actions and activities.

When (not if), Israel has to take the necessary and do what it has to, there will be great soul searching and gnashing of teeth in certain quarters over America&#039;s &quot;enabling&quot; of their actions and the &quot;awful&quot; consequences for &quot;Peace In the Middle East&quot; (tm).

Meanwhile in the souk and the rest of the Arab street, quiet and contemplation of the consequences of overreach.  And likely peace in the middle East.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whiskey: &#8220;Israel&#8230;.can realize time is running out and the second Holocaust looms. People will do anything to survive. ANYTHING.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know that, you all here know that, the American people know that, and more importantly I think the Israelis (down deep inside) know that, but does O&#8217;Bamma?  Does Hezbollah?</p>
<p>Part of our problem is that the current American regime lacks a fundamental understanding of the necessity for survival and how it justifies a host of extraordinary actions and activities.</p>
<p>When (not if), Israel has to take the necessary and do what it has to, there will be great soul searching and gnashing of teeth in certain quarters over America&#8217;s &#8220;enabling&#8221; of their actions and the &#8220;awful&#8221; consequences for &#8220;Peace In the Middle East&#8221; &#8482;.</p>
<p>Meanwhile in the souk and the rest of the Arab street, quiet and contemplation of the consequences of overreach.  And likely peace in the middle East.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40590</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Volcker?? What does he have to do with this? He&#039;s supposed to be handing out bailout money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volcker?? What does he have to do with this? He&#8217;s supposed to be handing out bailout money.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40589</link>
		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, nothing happens in a vacuum. Israel, feeling desperate, and betrayed, is likely as many nations in similar circumstances (Poland, Czech Republic) to take action. For the latter, it will be nuking up as quickly as possible. For the former, likely a first strike against Tehran, one massive and &quot;life-preserving&quot; in that the aim is to kill so many Iranians as they will not create a threat, and simultaneous invasion of Lebanon to wipe out Hezbollah.

Even Israel, deeply feminized and suburban (same thing) can realize time is running out and the second Holocaust looms. People will do anything to survive. ANYTHING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, nothing happens in a vacuum. Israel, feeling desperate, and betrayed, is likely as many nations in similar circumstances (Poland, Czech Republic) to take action. For the latter, it will be nuking up as quickly as possible. For the former, likely a first strike against Tehran, one massive and &#8220;life-preserving&#8221; in that the aim is to kill so many Iranians as they will not create a threat, and simultaneous invasion of Lebanon to wipe out Hezbollah.</p>
<p>Even Israel, deeply feminized and suburban (same thing) can realize time is running out and the second Holocaust looms. People will do anything to survive. ANYTHING.</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/15/waiting-game/#comment-40582</link>
		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As long as Hezbollah exists, it will never recognise Israel.”

THe obvious solution to this conundrum is to make sure Hezbollah and all its component parts AND underlying ideology cease to exist.  Then no one has to worry about whether or not to recognize Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As long as Hezbollah exists, it will never recognise Israel.”</p>
<p>THe obvious solution to this conundrum is to make sure Hezbollah and all its component parts AND underlying ideology cease to exist.  Then no one has to worry about whether or not to recognize Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Insufficiently Sensitive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insufficiently Sensitive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like the current administration must be devoted readers of the Economist, which has never seen a scheme to have the US force attrition and eventual defeat on Israel that it didn&#039;t like.  

Wasting those trump cards, particularly the threat of regime change in Syria, is indeed a blatant signal of a mindless limp-dick Kumbaya foreign policy.  Neville Chamberlain was a mere piker, and Obama/Hillary will show us all how to create world chaos and massive death in grand 21st century style, with arugula on the side, while looting the American till to prop up their domestic &#039;electorate&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like the current administration must be devoted readers of the Economist, which has never seen a scheme to have the US force attrition and eventual defeat on Israel that it didn&#8217;t like.  </p>
<p>Wasting those trump cards, particularly the threat of regime change in Syria, is indeed a blatant signal of a mindless limp-dick Kumbaya foreign policy.  Neville Chamberlain was a mere piker, and Obama/Hillary will show us all how to create world chaos and massive death in grand 21st century style, with arugula on the side, while looting the American till to prop up their domestic &#8216;electorate&#8217;.</p>
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