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		<title>By: 3Case</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/05/rearranging-the-deck-chairs-on-the-titanic/#comment-39027</link>
		<dc:creator>3Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In &quot;fixing&quot; the health care system, the Lord O and his minions, likely, will kill my Wife.  I pray, near daily, for Grace that the ragamuffin Republicans can stop that horror or that the progression of her rare disease delivers her from the predations of national healthcare bureaucrats.

As with Global Warming, the Healthcare Crisis is a hoax meant to deliver money and power from the people to the Democrat Overlords and their Heepish minions...Heepish, the combined lot of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In &#8220;fixing&#8221; the health care system, the Lord O and his minions, likely, will kill my Wife.  I pray, near daily, for Grace that the ragamuffin Republicans can stop that horror or that the progression of her rare disease delivers her from the predations of national healthcare bureaucrats.</p>
<p>As with Global Warming, the Healthcare Crisis is a hoax meant to deliver money and power from the people to the Democrat Overlords and their Heepish minions&#8230;Heepish, the combined lot of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ppipps</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppipps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just posted on this site, only to see my words removed when I refreshed. Did I say something wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just posted on this site, only to see my words removed when I refreshed. Did I say something wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: ag</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/03/05/rearranging-the-deck-chairs-on-the-titanic/#comment-38952</link>
		<dc:creator>ag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. 18 &quot;If this experiment is terminated early, “progressives” will never believe the termination was legitimate,&quot; I think you are mistaken. &quot;progressives&quot; will always be &quot;progressives&quot;. They will never believe their umpteen experiment could go wrong. No! Not this time and with us in charge! They are perpetual hampsters: always busy scheming and improving other people lives. The only solution I know is to terminate the &quot;progressives&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. 18 &#8220;If this experiment is terminated early, “progressives” will never believe the termination was legitimate,&#8221; I think you are mistaken. &#8220;progressives&#8221; will always be &#8220;progressives&#8221;. They will never believe their umpteen experiment could go wrong. No! Not this time and with us in charge! They are perpetual hampsters: always busy scheming and improving other people lives. The only solution I know is to terminate the &#8220;progressives&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: RWE</title>
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		<dc:creator>RWE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always Right 23.

To me &quot;abandoning ship&quot; does not mean digging yourself a bunker in the New Jersy Pine Barrens or buying property north of Winnipeg but rather refusing to be the Cow that the Socialists like to milk and the Communists like to slaughter.

How one does that varies with your situation, but I am sure it means not investing any more in the stock market, making sure you have a safe place to go, saving money (or gold) and defering purchases, stocking up on food and/or ammo, etc.  None of those are bad things to do even if the economic forecast was sweetness and light for as far as the eye can see and we were all producing musical farts that played &quot;Zippedy Do Dah.&quot;

And get organized.  Not a bad thing at any time, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always Right 23.</p>
<p>To me &#8220;abandoning ship&#8221; does not mean digging yourself a bunker in the New Jersy Pine Barrens or buying property north of Winnipeg but rather refusing to be the Cow that the Socialists like to milk and the Communists like to slaughter.</p>
<p>How one does that varies with your situation, but I am sure it means not investing any more in the stock market, making sure you have a safe place to go, saving money (or gold) and defering purchases, stocking up on food and/or ammo, etc.  None of those are bad things to do even if the economic forecast was sweetness and light for as far as the eye can see and we were all producing musical farts that played &#8220;Zippedy Do Dah.&#8221;</p>
<p>And get organized.  Not a bad thing at any time, either.</p>
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		<title>By: buckets</title>
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		<dc:creator>buckets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might otherwise agree with you, Neil, but I really think much of the damage being done right now is of the permanent and paradigm-shifting kind.  If you think we can make it through his presidency unchanged, well, I wish I shared your optimism.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might otherwise agree with you, Neil, but I really think much of the damage being done right now is of the permanent and paradigm-shifting kind.  If you think we can make it through his presidency unchanged, well, I wish I shared your optimism.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: buckets</title>
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		<dc:creator>buckets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil-

Obama got elected President because he presented himself as a tax-cutting/ responsible/ stop wasteful govt spending /strong on national defense/ moderate. I certainly don&#039;t remember O mentioning during the debates any promises to rack up trillions in deficits and start kissing Russian and mullah ass his first weeks in office.

I don&#039;t think most people really knew who Obama was; in part because the press never asked the tough questions, and in part because O is simply a charismatic guy.

If you believe that all 60+ million Americans who voted for Obama understood exactly who they were voting for, and desired the domestic agenda and foreign policy we&#039;ve seen thus far, I would also call you &quot;a relatively unobservant student of the American political scene.&quot; 

OOOOOO, what do you think about them apples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil-</p>
<p>Obama got elected President because he presented himself as a tax-cutting/ responsible/ stop wasteful govt spending /strong on national defense/ moderate. I certainly don&#8217;t remember O mentioning during the debates any promises to rack up trillions in deficits and start kissing Russian and mullah ass his first weeks in office.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think most people really knew who Obama was; in part because the press never asked the tough questions, and in part because O is simply a charismatic guy.</p>
<p>If you believe that all 60+ million Americans who voted for Obama understood exactly who they were voting for, and desired the domestic agenda and foreign policy we&#8217;ve seen thus far, I would also call you &#8220;a relatively unobservant student of the American political scene.&#8221; </p>
<p>OOOOOO, what do you think about them apples?</p>
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		<title>By: kbdabear</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbdabear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One ticking bomb awaiting mortgage holders is not covered by the DemSM. Think of the anagram PITI (Principal Interest Taxes Insurance) 

Judges, banks, whoever may be able to rework principal and interest, maybe even insurance to terms easier for the homeowner or commercial property owner, but TAXES are usually paid to localities through the mortgage payments. Taxes cannot be reworked by the judges and with the growing hunger for funds and deficits faced by municipalities, property taxes are sure to rise in frightful ways.

Homeowners capable of paying the current principal, interest, and insurance portion of their mortgages may be faced with tax foreclosures. I see this as a growing threat that the tax loving DemSM will undercover until the smoke is unmistakably a conflagration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One ticking bomb awaiting mortgage holders is not covered by the DemSM. Think of the anagram PITI (Principal Interest Taxes Insurance) </p>
<p>Judges, banks, whoever may be able to rework principal and interest, maybe even insurance to terms easier for the homeowner or commercial property owner, but TAXES are usually paid to localities through the mortgage payments. Taxes cannot be reworked by the judges and with the growing hunger for funds and deficits faced by municipalities, property taxes are sure to rise in frightful ways.</p>
<p>Homeowners capable of paying the current principal, interest, and insurance portion of their mortgages may be faced with tax foreclosures. I see this as a growing threat that the tax loving DemSM will undercover until the smoke is unmistakably a conflagration.</p>
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		<title>By: always right</title>
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		<dc:creator>always right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17 &amp; 20.
Thanks for the better metaphor.

&lt;i&gt;(O)ur Novice POTUS Damage Control Officer is creating the world’s largest Fuel Air Explosive.&lt;/i&gt;

Once he started it (i.e. down this road), is there any other damage control measure(s) could be put in place IN TIME to de-risking the catastrophe in the making?  In other words, is the lifeboat (&#039;abandoning ship&#039;) the only option?  That makes the same scenario as Titanic, doesn’t it?

At this rate, President ZerO may be give two full terms before voters learn anything better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17 &amp; 20.<br />
Thanks for the better metaphor.</p>
<p><i>(O)ur Novice POTUS Damage Control Officer is creating the world’s largest Fuel Air Explosive.</i></p>
<p>Once he started it (i.e. down this road), is there any other damage control measure(s) could be put in place IN TIME to de-risking the catastrophe in the making?  In other words, is the lifeboat (&#8216;abandoning ship&#8217;) the only option?  That makes the same scenario as Titanic, doesn’t it?</p>
<p>At this rate, President ZerO may be give two full terms before voters learn anything better.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buckets @19

Naivete?  Such a charming ad hominem attack, and with not a scrap of anything to back it up.  In my opinion it&#039;s naive to believe you can save the Republic by impeaching the man.

The American people voted for Obama because they listened to him denigrate business, listened to him promise loaves and fishes to the world, and listened to him promise to pay for it with tax cuts for the middle class.  And they said &quot;that&#039;s our man!&quot;.

If Obama&#039;s policies are not seen to fail (and they will fail, and fail quickly), how long do you think it will be until another &quot;community organizer&quot; comes along with the same smooth words, the same promises, the same old axe to grind?  

No, this must end here.  America&#039;s fascination with socialism must be unlearned by hard experience. Conservatives and libertarians must be seen to fight back, and must articulate a forceful alternative to Obama.  But it can only end when the people make their own decision to throw the bum out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buckets @19</p>
<p>Naivete?  Such a charming ad hominem attack, and with not a scrap of anything to back it up.  In my opinion it&#8217;s naive to believe you can save the Republic by impeaching the man.</p>
<p>The American people voted for Obama because they listened to him denigrate business, listened to him promise loaves and fishes to the world, and listened to him promise to pay for it with tax cuts for the middle class.  And they said &#8220;that&#8217;s our man!&#8221;.</p>
<p>If Obama&#8217;s policies are not seen to fail (and they will fail, and fail quickly), how long do you think it will be until another &#8220;community organizer&#8221; comes along with the same smooth words, the same promises, the same old axe to grind?  </p>
<p>No, this must end here.  America&#8217;s fascination with socialism must be unlearned by hard experience. Conservatives and libertarians must be seen to fight back, and must articulate a forceful alternative to Obama.  But it can only end when the people make their own decision to throw the bum out.</p>
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		<title>By: bogie wheel</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogie wheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;There’s the beginnings of impeachment talk out there. I suspect that within six months there will be some support for it in Congress. If wiser heads push it along, they might even manage to force him out during his first term. I say that would be a disaster.&lt;/I&gt;

&quot;Impeachment talk?&quot;  So what?

The Constitution delineates what are impeachable offenses.  They are:
&quot;treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.&quot;

Meaning - he has to break an established law, or commit treason as defined in Article III.

Disliking a president, even vehemently disagreeing with his policies, even suspecting that he is a narcissistic megalomaniac bent on permanently changing the balance of power between government and the private sector in this country, are not grounds for impeachment.  

Inflating policy differences into criminal offenses is what the other side does.

It would be a good idea for us to follow the Constitution, because I&#039;m pretty sure that if we don&#039;t, nobody will.

If he&#039;s &quot;merely&quot; a screaming disaster of a policy jackass, then we turn him out in the next election.  However, if he goes beyond bad policy into illegal/treasonous acts, then there are provisions for dealing with that.

But he has to play his hand first.  Reactionary and preemptive opposition does no one any good.

So on that note I agree with you -- things must &quot;play out&quot; a lot further -- but for long-term, constitutional reasons, not political ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There’s the beginnings of impeachment talk out there. I suspect that within six months there will be some support for it in Congress. If wiser heads push it along, they might even manage to force him out during his first term. I say that would be a disaster.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Impeachment talk?&#8221;  So what?</p>
<p>The Constitution delineates what are impeachable offenses.  They are:<br />
&#8220;treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meaning &#8211; he has to break an established law, or commit treason as defined in Article III.</p>
<p>Disliking a president, even vehemently disagreeing with his policies, even suspecting that he is a narcissistic megalomaniac bent on permanently changing the balance of power between government and the private sector in this country, are not grounds for impeachment.  </p>
<p>Inflating policy differences into criminal offenses is what the other side does.</p>
<p>It would be a good idea for us to follow the Constitution, because I&#8217;m pretty sure that if we don&#8217;t, nobody will.</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s &#8220;merely&#8221; a screaming disaster of a policy jackass, then we turn him out in the next election.  However, if he goes beyond bad policy into illegal/treasonous acts, then there are provisions for dealing with that.</p>
<p>But he has to play his hand first.  Reactionary and preemptive opposition does no one any good.</p>
<p>So on that note I agree with you &#8212; things must &#8220;play out&#8221; a lot further &#8212; but for long-term, constitutional reasons, not political ones.</p>
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