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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/02/09/the-shapeshifters/#comment-34376</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this thread has been a depressing experience, but I realize that the truth has to be debated and discussed.  I am in the midst of Robert Chandler&#039;s book, &quot;Shadow World: Resurgent Russia, the Global Left, and Radical Islam.&quot;  We are in big trouble.  Very deep trouble.  We stand to lose ALL.

These forces are a big wolf pack circling the dying prey, and are moving in for the kill.  They will then turn on each other.

But throughout it all our worst enemy is the enemy within:  the new class of intellectuals and policy wonks who come out of our best universities.  They have killed our intelligence capabilities.  Among them, I am sure, are people who are quite consciously working for our external enemies.  They plan on working on a very up tempo timetable these next four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this thread has been a depressing experience, but I realize that the truth has to be debated and discussed.  I am in the midst of Robert Chandler&#8217;s book, &#8220;Shadow World: Resurgent Russia, the Global Left, and Radical Islam.&#8221;  We are in big trouble.  Very deep trouble.  We stand to lose ALL.</p>
<p>These forces are a big wolf pack circling the dying prey, and are moving in for the kill.  They will then turn on each other.</p>
<p>But throughout it all our worst enemy is the enemy within:  the new class of intellectuals and policy wonks who come out of our best universities.  They have killed our intelligence capabilities.  Among them, I am sure, are people who are quite consciously working for our external enemies.  They plan on working on a very up tempo timetable these next four years.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/02/09/the-shapeshifters/#comment-34107</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy - yes, the recent comment by Gates or another high DoD official that there was &quot;growing daylight between us and our European allies&quot; is worrying.  There is something wrong in Europe; whether purely sentimental or more malevolent is becoming increasingly irrelevant.  If Obama can&#039;t at least deliver Europe, public Europe, then things are not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy &#8211; yes, the recent comment by Gates or another high DoD official that there was &#8220;growing daylight between us and our European allies&#8221; is worrying.  There is something wrong in Europe; whether purely sentimental or more malevolent is becoming increasingly irrelevant.  If Obama can&#8217;t at least deliver Europe, public Europe, then things are not good.</p>
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		<title>By: veracious</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/02/09/the-shapeshifters/#comment-34097</link>
		<dc:creator>veracious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russia was just briefly a friend, likely really never.  The statements in the Kremlin have pointed to hiding out, infiltrating and such for a very long time.

Much discussion above tries to keep primary risks in separate camps: the Russians, the Muslims, the Chinese.  This is the way the world _used_ to work: supposing the Shia and Shittes don&#039;t work together, Iran and Saudi Arabia are at odds.  Blah, blah, blah...  All old and non-actionable news.  They _do_ work together when it comes to opposing USA.  Same phenomena _internally_: the previously disjoint subverses, working together to bend USA.

There is a pattern here, that being the most important goal of most anti-American elements, inside and out, is shredding USA.  Like a pack of wolves, they sense a kill.  Each relying on the others to distract and together find openings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia was just briefly a friend, likely really never.  The statements in the Kremlin have pointed to hiding out, infiltrating and such for a very long time.</p>
<p>Much discussion above tries to keep primary risks in separate camps: the Russians, the Muslims, the Chinese.  This is the way the world _used_ to work: supposing the Shia and Shittes don&#8217;t work together, Iran and Saudi Arabia are at odds.  Blah, blah, blah&#8230;  All old and non-actionable news.  They _do_ work together when it comes to opposing USA.  Same phenomena _internally_: the previously disjoint subverses, working together to bend USA.</p>
<p>There is a pattern here, that being the most important goal of most anti-American elements, inside and out, is shredding USA.  Like a pack of wolves, they sense a kill.  Each relying on the others to distract and together find openings.</p>
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		<title>By: veracious</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/02/09/the-shapeshifters/#comment-34093</link>
		<dc:creator>veracious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome insights; however, arrogance are US.  Probably can&#039;t get any bites on the amount of money controlling the spying, the news, the political cover and corruption.

Add to that the general arrogance that we are so much richer and more powerful that any other player; I read it more than once above.  Blinded by the might.  We can barely manufacture the military components ourselves and our _entire_ economy is based on foreign ownership of our debt.

By _any_ reasonable measure USA was bankrupt before the stimuation and todays TARP II added trillions more:

The fact of the matter is that the US is bankrupt. David M. Walker, Comptroller General of the US and head of the Government Accountability Office, in his December 17, 2007, report to the US Congress on the financial statements of the US government noted that &quot;the federal government did not maintain effective internal control over financial reporting (including safeguarding assets) and compliance with significant laws and regulations as of September 30, 2007.&quot; In everyday language, the US government cannot pass an audit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome insights; however, arrogance are US.  Probably can&#8217;t get any bites on the amount of money controlling the spying, the news, the political cover and corruption.</p>
<p>Add to that the general arrogance that we are so much richer and more powerful that any other player; I read it more than once above.  Blinded by the might.  We can barely manufacture the military components ourselves and our _entire_ economy is based on foreign ownership of our debt.</p>
<p>By _any_ reasonable measure USA was bankrupt before the stimuation and todays TARP II added trillions more:</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that the US is bankrupt. David M. Walker, Comptroller General of the US and head of the Government Accountability Office, in his December 17, 2007, report to the US Congress on the financial statements of the US government noted that &#8220;the federal government did not maintain effective internal control over financial reporting (including safeguarding assets) and compliance with significant laws and regulations as of September 30, 2007.&#8221; In everyday language, the US government cannot pass an audit.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the dragons are in flight&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s not that many of them, the nomenklatura, but they have some powerful assets --starting with, no elections every two years to throw projects and personnel into flux. An intelligent youngster can get tapped, and go into the Kremlin knowing he can operate his assignment long term. Putin didn&#039;t rise on his ability to perform in an entertainment celebrity limelight; Putin&#039;s &lt;i&gt;career&lt;/i&gt; project is Germany, he speaks perfect German and spent his early career in East Germany. He was promoted by the St Petersburg faction, but succeeded no doubt on the strength of Kremlin consensus that removing Germany from the &quot;enemy camp&quot; is atop the priority list.  The west should have risen in fury over his grab of Gazprom, at the time he was mucxh weaker, analogous to Hitler re annexing the Alsace-Lorraine or Sudetenland (with Austria and Czechoslovakia yet far away). That we paid no attention --busy processing our info overload re whatever the MSM had chosen for us at the time) spoke volumes to the Kremlin.  

Gazprom is now the front of a lever, with energy the fulcrum and the Russian ICBM force the weight on the working end. It&#039;s prying Europe loose from NATO, or USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the dragons are in flight</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s not that many of them, the nomenklatura, but they have some powerful assets &#8211;starting with, no elections every two years to throw projects and personnel into flux. An intelligent youngster can get tapped, and go into the Kremlin knowing he can operate his assignment long term. Putin didn&#8217;t rise on his ability to perform in an entertainment celebrity limelight; Putin&#8217;s <i>career</i> project is Germany, he speaks perfect German and spent his early career in East Germany. He was promoted by the St Petersburg faction, but succeeded no doubt on the strength of Kremlin consensus that removing Germany from the &#8220;enemy camp&#8221; is atop the priority list.  The west should have risen in fury over his grab of Gazprom, at the time he was mucxh weaker, analogous to Hitler re annexing the Alsace-Lorraine or Sudetenland (with Austria and Czechoslovakia yet far away). That we paid no attention &#8211;busy processing our info overload re whatever the MSM had chosen for us at the time) spoke volumes to the Kremlin.  </p>
<p>Gazprom is now the front of a lever, with energy the fulcrum and the Russian ICBM force the weight on the working end. It&#8217;s prying Europe loose from NATO, or USA.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/02/09/the-shapeshifters/#comment-34012</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Maps - yes, that is the hope.  the dark lining around the hope radiates from two facts: (1) this *is* russian statecraft; it is what they do.  we build, tinker, discover, wonder, write great little tunes, occasionally revolt, etc., they conspire and oppress.  true story.  (2) they can tolerate a mass degree of abject servility and penury that we, by definition, cannot.  these are two profound advantages that our oblivion only renders more lethal.  

the dragons are in flight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Maps &#8211; yes, that is the hope.  the dark lining around the hope radiates from two facts: (1) this *is* russian statecraft; it is what they do.  we build, tinker, discover, wonder, write great little tunes, occasionally revolt, etc., they conspire and oppress.  true story.  (2) they can tolerate a mass degree of abject servility and penury that we, by definition, cannot.  these are two profound advantages that our oblivion only renders more lethal.  </p>
<p>the dragons are in flight.</p>
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		<title>By: Mongoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea Jay, I live in NYC, so I could go on and on with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea Jay, I live in NYC, so I could go on and on with this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant NO charge for attending the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant NO charge for attending the event.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mongoose, Your post about the NY City &quot;aristocrats&quot; is wonderful. I have seen such a transformation on Long Island. If I had time I would tell you the story about how Jacque Lifshitz was honored by the people of Hasting on Hudson in 1967 for his donation of a statue he made as a model for a bigger one.
 We met in the high school. We heard and saw some of the best NYC artists present poems, music and dance. NO change. The audience were not showing wealth. Many were wealthy but no show.
 Now the non wealthy try to show off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mongoose, Your post about the NY City &#8220;aristocrats&#8221; is wonderful. I have seen such a transformation on Long Island. If I had time I would tell you the story about how Jacque Lifshitz was honored by the people of Hasting on Hudson in 1967 for his donation of a statue he made as a model for a bigger one.<br />
 We met in the high school. We heard and saw some of the best NYC artists present poems, music and dance. NO change. The audience were not showing wealth. Many were wealthy but no show.<br />
 Now the non wealthy try to show off.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unsk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jf Sanders: Thanks, I screwed up his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jf Sanders: Thanks, I screwed up his name.</p>
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