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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/23/in-the-year-our-lord/#comment-31235</link>
		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They’re first to it, and are now better positioned to carry it out.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous.  As long as they&#039;re facing a &quot;well-armed civilian militia&quot; they aren&#039;t in any position to do ANYthing about rounding anyone up.  That&#039;s as daft as the Dem&#039;s claiming they were all being locked up for criticizing Bush, which just simply was not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They’re first to it, and are now better positioned to carry it out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous.  As long as they&#8217;re facing a &#8220;well-armed civilian militia&#8221; they aren&#8217;t in any position to do ANYthing about rounding anyone up.  That&#8217;s as daft as the Dem&#8217;s claiming they were all being locked up for criticizing Bush, which just simply was not true.</p>
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		<title>By: Reloader449</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/23/in-the-year-our-lord/#comment-31200</link>
		<dc:creator>Reloader449</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nahncee @#39 said: &quot;(1) kill all Democrats, (2) ship them off to be mentally reprogrammed a la China, ... Or maybe (4) just don’t ever allow anyone who’s ever been a registered Democrat to ever vote again.&quot;

The Dems led by ZeroBamma are already planning to implement these three RE conservatives and republicans. They&#039;re first to it, and are now better positioned to carry it out. Starting with skilled white males, rumor has it. Ayers &amp; company determined the likely number who will ultimately &quot;self-select&quot; and live free or die: 25 million. The remaining resisters aka &quot;deniers&quot; today, in camps in the Southwest. Why else do you think ZeroBamma would need America to &quot;volunteer&quot; and why would he need an internal security force on par with the DoD?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nahncee @#39 said: &#8220;(1) kill all Democrats, (2) ship them off to be mentally reprogrammed a la China, &#8230; Or maybe (4) just don’t ever allow anyone who’s ever been a registered Democrat to ever vote again.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Dems led by ZeroBamma are already planning to implement these three RE conservatives and republicans. They&#8217;re first to it, and are now better positioned to carry it out. Starting with skilled white males, rumor has it. Ayers &amp; company determined the likely number who will ultimately &#8220;self-select&#8221; and live free or die: 25 million. The remaining resisters aka &#8220;deniers&#8221; today, in camps in the Southwest. Why else do you think ZeroBamma would need America to &#8220;volunteer&#8221; and why would he need an internal security force on par with the DoD?</p>
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		<title>By: programmer</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/23/in-the-year-our-lord/#comment-31150</link>
		<dc:creator>programmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NahnCee suggests:

Or maybe (4) just don’t ever allow anyone who’s ever been a registered Democrat to ever vote again.

programmer responds:

NahnCee, what can I say.  When you&#039;re right, you&#039;re right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NahnCee suggests:</p>
<p>Or maybe (4) just don’t ever allow anyone who’s ever been a registered Democrat to ever vote again.</p>
<p>programmer responds:</p>
<p>NahnCee, what can I say.  When you&#8217;re right, you&#8217;re right.</p>
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		<title>By: 2@WwSsXx~`[tab] &#171; The View from Alexandria</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/23/in-the-year-our-lord/#comment-31139</link>
		<dc:creator>2@WwSsXx~`[tab] &#171; The View from Alexandria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Richard Fernandez writes of deepening troubles in Europe, which may split the European Union. In the comments section, he becomes reflective and issues a warning: &#8220;If things go to hell in a handbasket we will probably see a transformation in human behavior the likes of which would surprise those who’ve never seen trouble up close. The very same people who only yesterday were the paragons of political correctness will be the most bloodthirsty of all. Paradoxically, it will be those who have always understood human nature who will be the most tolerant and humane of all. There is no greater fanatic than an ivory tower fanatic; no more enthusiastic murderer than a former pacifist. I would rather take my chances with a grizzled sergeant of marines than one of these disciples of Hope who’s suddenly had a lightbulb come on in his head&#8230;. I hope and pray that we find ways to solve our problems rationally and gradually and not stick our heads in the sand until it all pent up and all kinds of red lines are crossed because we attended to things too late; because on the day that man becomes an animal, there is no animal worse than man.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Richard Fernandez writes of deepening troubles in Europe, which may split the European Union. In the comments section, he becomes reflective and issues a warning: &#8220;If things go to hell in a handbasket we will probably see a transformation in human behavior the likes of which would surprise those who’ve never seen trouble up close. The very same people who only yesterday were the paragons of political correctness will be the most bloodthirsty of all. Paradoxically, it will be those who have always understood human nature who will be the most tolerant and humane of all. There is no greater fanatic than an ivory tower fanatic; no more enthusiastic murderer than a former pacifist. I would rather take my chances with a grizzled sergeant of marines than one of these disciples of Hope who’s suddenly had a lightbulb come on in his head&#8230;. I hope and pray that we find ways to solve our problems rationally and gradually and not stick our heads in the sand until it all pent up and all kinds of red lines are crossed because we attended to things too late; because on the day that man becomes an animal, there is no animal worse than man.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/23/in-the-year-our-lord/#comment-31135</link>
		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are also plenty of people, like me, who will stand — very well armed and tactically aware — to protect folks like our Jordanian grocer friend. He and his local muslim friends ‘get’ it about America. He’s one of us now.&quot;

Bart, would you be prepared to stake the lives of your family on whether or not your Jordanian grocer would turn in his brother if he knew he was about to poison the water system?  When I see Muslims in America routinely turning in terrorists that they know about (and NOT contributing money to terrorists overseas) then I&#039;ll believe they&#039;re one of us now.  So far, that hasn&#039;t happened that I&#039;m aware of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are also plenty of people, like me, who will stand — very well armed and tactically aware — to protect folks like our Jordanian grocer friend. He and his local muslim friends ‘get’ it about America. He’s one of us now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bart, would you be prepared to stake the lives of your family on whether or not your Jordanian grocer would turn in his brother if he knew he was about to poison the water system?  When I see Muslims in America routinely turning in terrorists that they know about (and NOT contributing money to terrorists overseas) then I&#8217;ll believe they&#8217;re one of us now.  So far, that hasn&#8217;t happened that I&#8217;m aware of.</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How long do you think a civil war would last?&quot;

If we allow the progressives to just throw their hands up and surrender, will anything have been accomplished?  You would still have 49% of America hating the Constitution and teaching guilt-about-everything.  Also, as we saw after Bush&#039;s second election, if you have a large percentage of voters who REFUSE to accept the results of an election, it goes a long way towards nullifying the  efforts of the legally-elected administration. 

It seems to me that in an American civil war, there are about three choices:  (1) kill all Democrats, (2) ship them off to be mentally reprogrammed a la China, or (3) cut the country in half and then everyone has to move to which-ever section fits with their belief system.  Or maybe (4) just don&#039;t ever allow anyone who&#039;s ever been a registered Democrat to ever vote again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How long do you think a civil war would last?&#8221;</p>
<p>If we allow the progressives to just throw their hands up and surrender, will anything have been accomplished?  You would still have 49% of America hating the Constitution and teaching guilt-about-everything.  Also, as we saw after Bush&#8217;s second election, if you have a large percentage of voters who REFUSE to accept the results of an election, it goes a long way towards nullifying the  efforts of the legally-elected administration. </p>
<p>It seems to me that in an American civil war, there are about three choices:  (1) kill all Democrats, (2) ship them off to be mentally reprogrammed a la China, or (3) cut the country in half and then everyone has to move to which-ever section fits with their belief system.  Or maybe (4) just don&#8217;t ever allow anyone who&#8217;s ever been a registered Democrat to ever vote again.</p>
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		<title>By: 49erDweet</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/23/in-the-year-our-lord/#comment-31129</link>
		<dc:creator>49erDweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Ponzi Scheme&quot; perpetrated on the Brits is more clearly explained in &lt;a href=&quot;http://mindinggap.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-capturing-wild-pigs-fable.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this fable&lt;/a&gt; from my blog dated in October,&#039;08, which was based on an earlier post &lt;a href=&quot;http://yankeecowgirl.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/do-you-know-how-to-capture-wild-pigs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;i&gt;Yankee CowGirl&lt;/i&gt;.&#160; 

In the parlance of that particular fable, our Anglo cousins are now &quot;locked in the pen and running out of food&quot;.&#160; We, on the other hand, are at the stage where we&#039;ve discovered the pen&#039;s cross rails are in place but the gates remain open.&#160; The question is, will we wake up in time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Ponzi Scheme&#8221; perpetrated on the Brits is more clearly explained in <a href="http://mindinggap.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-capturing-wild-pigs-fable.html" rel="nofollow">this fable</a> from my blog dated in October,&#8217;08, which was based on an earlier post <a href="http://yankeecowgirl.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/do-you-know-how-to-capture-wild-pigs/" rel="nofollow">here</a> by <i>Yankee CowGirl</i>.&nbsp; </p>
<p>In the parlance of that particular fable, our Anglo cousins are now &#8220;locked in the pen and running out of food&#8221;.&nbsp; We, on the other hand, are at the stage where we&#8217;ve discovered the pen&#8217;s cross rails are in place but the gates remain open.&nbsp; The question is, will we wake up in time?</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was obvious back in October/November that this one was going to be nasty.

This time next year will entail a contemplation of two digit statistics. 1.5 percent in a few months adds up quickly over a year.

The nations that survive are the ones with social cohesion. Any, and I mean any existing faultline will be bloody.

So any nation that has either methodically torn apart the sources of cohesion, or introduced more faultlines by immigration or attempted social engineering will explode.

Any nation with a governmental system that isn&#039;t representative and responsive in a way that can absorb and smother the faultlines will fail.

Will european countries be able to absorb the hundreds of thousands of greek, italian, spanish refugees fleeing the violence and turmoil that a collapsed nation entails? We don&#039;t have to think back too far. Albania, Yugoslavia.

On a related note, recently a leftist politician in British Columbia proposed banning body armor except for the police. Why would anyone want body armor?

Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was obvious back in October/November that this one was going to be nasty.</p>
<p>This time next year will entail a contemplation of two digit statistics. 1.5 percent in a few months adds up quickly over a year.</p>
<p>The nations that survive are the ones with social cohesion. Any, and I mean any existing faultline will be bloody.</p>
<p>So any nation that has either methodically torn apart the sources of cohesion, or introduced more faultlines by immigration or attempted social engineering will explode.</p>
<p>Any nation with a governmental system that isn&#8217;t representative and responsive in a way that can absorb and smother the faultlines will fail.</p>
<p>Will european countries be able to absorb the hundreds of thousands of greek, italian, spanish refugees fleeing the violence and turmoil that a collapsed nation entails? We don&#8217;t have to think back too far. Albania, Yugoslavia.</p>
<p>On a related note, recently a leftist politician in British Columbia proposed banning body armor except for the police. Why would anyone want body armor?</p>
<p>Derek</p>
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		<title>By: amr</title>
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		<dc:creator>amr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bart Hall:  In a class my twin sons attended in college the professor asked who would seek a gun if there was anarchy; only my sons raised their hands.  They will have a chance at survival if the stuff hits the fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bart Hall:  In a class my twin sons attended in college the professor asked who would seek a gun if there was anarchy; only my sons raised their hands.  They will have a chance at survival if the stuff hits the fan.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NahnCee @#23 said: &quot;&lt;i&gt;The reaction of liberal America to 9/11 has demonstrated to a lot of people that the greater danger to our democracy are the anti-American progressives.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I&#039;ve said before that we are actually involved in two wars, not one:  a War &lt;b&gt;Against&lt;/b&gt; the West (i.e., Islamic supremacism), and a War &lt;b&gt;Within&lt;/b&gt; the West (democracy vs. socialism).  We will not win the former unless we first win the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NahnCee @#23 said: &#8220;<i>The reaction of liberal America to 9/11 has demonstrated to a lot of people that the greater danger to our democracy are the anti-American progressives.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said before that we are actually involved in two wars, not one:  a War <b>Against</b> the West (i.e., Islamic supremacism), and a War <b>Within</b> the West (democracy vs. socialism).  We will not win the former unless we first win the latter.</p>
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