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		<title>By: marymcl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/14/self-parody/#comment-30047</link>
		<dc:creator>marymcl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word to the wise - Thanks for the links, and the suggestion  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word to the wise &#8211; Thanks for the links, and the suggestion  <img src='http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Word to the wise</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/14/self-parody/#comment-29963</link>
		<dc:creator>Word to the wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marymcl: Yes, of course you are right about school boards -- shocking story, btw.

About Rodin. Yes, know what you mean here. If you ever get to Paris check out the Rodin Museum there:

http://www.musee-rodin.fr/welcome.htm

Philly in the US does not have a bad Rodin collection either:

http://www.rodinmuseum.org/


Stick some late Brahms in your Ipod, sit down in the garden for a spell and take it all in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marymcl: Yes, of course you are right about school boards &#8212; shocking story, btw.</p>
<p>About Rodin. Yes, know what you mean here. If you ever get to Paris check out the Rodin Museum there:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.musee-rodin.fr/welcome.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.musee-rodin.fr/welcome.htm</a></p>
<p>Philly in the US does not have a bad Rodin collection either:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rodinmuseum.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rodinmuseum.org/</a></p>
<p>Stick some late Brahms in your Ipod, sit down in the garden for a spell and take it all in.</p>
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		<title>By: marymcl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/14/self-parody/#comment-29936</link>
		<dc:creator>marymcl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mongoose - The state of liberal arts is appalling yet I&#039;ve come to believe the most important elections we hold are the ones for local school boards. Elementary schools are  rapidly becoming little more than indoctrination centers for political correctness and the Church of Al Gore. I am constantly amazed at the stories I hear from the young mothers I work with. The other day I was having lunch with three co-workers, all with children still in school, and it came up in conversation that every one of them had been investigated for child abuse at the instigation of the local school district. Apparently the kids are asked if they&#039;re ever punished at home and and if the answer is anything other than &quot;time-out&quot; the upshot for many is a surprise visit from one of these investigators. I can&#039;t imagine having to put up with that. I lost my temper with teachers and administrators over considerably less when my own kids were in school. This is scary.

A bit off-topic. As long as Rodin was mentioned, though, I urge anyone with the opportunity to visit the Met in NY to go find Rodin&#039;s &quot;Burghers of Calais&quot;, which is off by itself somewhere around the edges of the American wing. It&#039;s a life-size bronze of half a dozen men about to set sail as hostages during the Hundred Years War. I&#039;ve had the great good fortune in life to have seen two sculptures that seemed to live and breathe. One was Michelangelo&#039;s Pieta, and this is the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mongoose &#8211; The state of liberal arts is appalling yet I&#8217;ve come to believe the most important elections we hold are the ones for local school boards. Elementary schools are  rapidly becoming little more than indoctrination centers for political correctness and the Church of Al Gore. I am constantly amazed at the stories I hear from the young mothers I work with. The other day I was having lunch with three co-workers, all with children still in school, and it came up in conversation that every one of them had been investigated for child abuse at the instigation of the local school district. Apparently the kids are asked if they&#8217;re ever punished at home and and if the answer is anything other than &#8220;time-out&#8221; the upshot for many is a surprise visit from one of these investigators. I can&#8217;t imagine having to put up with that. I lost my temper with teachers and administrators over considerably less when my own kids were in school. This is scary.</p>
<p>A bit off-topic. As long as Rodin was mentioned, though, I urge anyone with the opportunity to visit the Met in NY to go find Rodin&#8217;s &#8220;Burghers of Calais&#8221;, which is off by itself somewhere around the edges of the American wing. It&#8217;s a life-size bronze of half a dozen men about to set sail as hostages during the Hundred Years War. I&#8217;ve had the great good fortune in life to have seen two sculptures that seemed to live and breathe. One was Michelangelo&#8217;s Pieta, and this is the other.</p>
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		<title>By: marymcl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/14/self-parody/#comment-29932</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andre Serrano&#039;s urine sample is *art* because it&#039;s calculated to upset people (guaranteed publicity) and both he and his hosts know they are safe from reprisal. There&#039;s no danger of Christians burning down the museum. Let him do the same with a Muslim artifact and see what happens. It&#039;s like the Proposition 8 protesters in CA that went after the Mormons but left the black churches alone. 

Anyway, you gotta love the Czechs - they just keep coming through on the right side of things</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andre Serrano&#8217;s urine sample is *art* because it&#8217;s calculated to upset people (guaranteed publicity) and both he and his hosts know they are safe from reprisal. There&#8217;s no danger of Christians burning down the museum. Let him do the same with a Muslim artifact and see what happens. It&#8217;s like the Proposition 8 protesters in CA that went after the Mormons but left the black churches alone. </p>
<p>Anyway, you gotta love the Czechs &#8211; they just keep coming through on the right side of things</p>
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		<title>By: Steynian 309 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steynian 309 &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] EUTOPIAN Self parody: &#8220;Spiegel has a photoessay depicting national European stereotypes as conceived [...]</description>
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		<title>By: weSwinger</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/14/self-parody/#comment-29922</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@20: Peter Boston. Welcome to my crusade against the Ivy League Nincompoops.  The Ivy Leaguers have been among the leadership of this country for 200 years:  the problem is that for the last 100, they seem to have decided that they are too good for the rest of us.  They have turned into
cockroaches infesting universities, government and the media, doing their best to f**k up this country for the last 100 years.  This latest generation has been finding new and even more odious allies for their mischief than their predecessors.  Their predecessors at least were inheritors and respecters of Western Civ.  Now the ILN&#039;s get their thrills cuddling up to the stone age worshippers of the moon god and practitioners of the blood sacrifice.

 
If you read A. Shlaes &quot;The Forgotten Man&quot;, you&#039;ll realize that the ILN&#039;s shining hour was really the FDR administration.  And that they were not just curious about comrade Stalin&#039;s Soviet Union - he was their role model.  Nixon tried to push back at them.  Not too successfully.  Reagan tried with a little better success.  GWBush tried to be both an ILN and a westerner - but pretty much remained (I think) an ILN except wrt the GWOT.

Our only hope is in the grave - that this particularly odious ge- ge- ge- generation will die off and our children and grandchildren will wonder what all the fuss was about - and settle down to hate us and all of our works when our bills come due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@20: Peter Boston. Welcome to my crusade against the Ivy League Nincompoops.  The Ivy Leaguers have been among the leadership of this country for 200 years:  the problem is that for the last 100, they seem to have decided that they are too good for the rest of us.  They have turned into<br />
cockroaches infesting universities, government and the media, doing their best to f**k up this country for the last 100 years.  This latest generation has been finding new and even more odious allies for their mischief than their predecessors.  Their predecessors at least were inheritors and respecters of Western Civ.  Now the ILN&#8217;s get their thrills cuddling up to the stone age worshippers of the moon god and practitioners of the blood sacrifice.</p>
<p>If you read A. Shlaes &#8220;The Forgotten Man&#8221;, you&#8217;ll realize that the ILN&#8217;s shining hour was really the FDR administration.  And that they were not just curious about comrade Stalin&#8217;s Soviet Union &#8211; he was their role model.  Nixon tried to push back at them.  Not too successfully.  Reagan tried with a little better success.  GWBush tried to be both an ILN and a westerner &#8211; but pretty much remained (I think) an ILN except wrt the GWOT.</p>
<p>Our only hope is in the grave &#8211; that this particularly odious ge- ge- ge- generation will die off and our children and grandchildren will wonder what all the fuss was about &#8211; and settle down to hate us and all of our works when our bills come due.</p>
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		<title>By: Political Junkie</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/01/14/self-parody/#comment-29877</link>
		<dc:creator>Political Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another, more comprehensive,version:

Heaven is where the Germans make the cars, the French make the food, the Swiss run the hotels, the British are the cops and the Italians are the lovers.

Hell is where the Germans are the cops, the British make the food, the French make the cars, the Italians run the hotels and the Swiss are the lovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another, more comprehensive,version:</p>
<p>Heaven is where the Germans make the cars, the French make the food, the Swiss run the hotels, the British are the cops and the Italians are the lovers.</p>
<p>Hell is where the Germans are the cops, the British make the food, the French make the cars, the Italians run the hotels and the Swiss are the lovers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mongoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that major issues= the major issues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that major issues= the major issues</p>
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		<title>By: Mongoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anton: Hard science is taking its lumps too. Just look at climate studies.

Even Physics and Computer Science departments have their share of idiocy at present; neither let us forget the ruckus Summers caused up at Harvard for making what any reasonable person would call and obvious observation. PC faculty appointments and admission policies are taking their toll as well in Science and Engineering programs. So let us not kid ourselves about Science and Technology programs in the Academy.

Moreover, we should not somehow congratulate ourselves that the so called &quot;Humanities&quot; or the &quot;Liberal Arts&quot; are the chief roosts of these sorts shenanigans. There &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; such a thing as &quot;The Humanities&quot; and it is even more vital to our society than Science. Science, Technology and Engineering do not address that major issues of life; &lt;i&gt;scientism&lt;/i&gt; is an intellectual and a moral error. Technology and Science are value neutral -- otherwise they could not properly function. Certainly, they will not keep vouchsafe our human dignity, liberty or prosperity in and of themselves, or even as the leading disciplines among many. As Chesterton once remarked, &quot;One does not ask one&#039;s horse where one wants to go&quot; (or something like that).

Let me add that, when properly taught, these curricula should by no means be &quot;easy&quot; or for for people somehow else gifted or serious than those who would pursue  science or engineering curricula.

Of course, to have such  curricula, one would have to accept the standards, canon, knowledge, theories, practices and spirit of the Western heritage. Avoiding (destroying?) all this is rather the point of the current Academy. Short of revolutionary mobs in the quadrangle, the only way to effect change may be litigation and legislation.

This is an extremely serious issue -- one much more dire than this overblown and over-hyped &quot;financial crisis&quot; that the Left is using for political cover this season.

The growing intellectual mediocrity of America is one of the next bubbles to pop, and it will be a loud one indeed.

We can grouse about a socialist ascendancy all we want, but we must remember that in the end socialism is much too parasitical to succeed.

Given the state of competition in the world today, we have little room to maneuver.

The American people really need to wake up and figure out what the left is up too.
Knaves and fools all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anton: Hard science is taking its lumps too. Just look at climate studies.</p>
<p>Even Physics and Computer Science departments have their share of idiocy at present; neither let us forget the ruckus Summers caused up at Harvard for making what any reasonable person would call and obvious observation. PC faculty appointments and admission policies are taking their toll as well in Science and Engineering programs. So let us not kid ourselves about Science and Technology programs in the Academy.</p>
<p>Moreover, we should not somehow congratulate ourselves that the so called &#8220;Humanities&#8221; or the &#8220;Liberal Arts&#8221; are the chief roosts of these sorts shenanigans. There <i>is</i> such a thing as &#8220;The Humanities&#8221; and it is even more vital to our society than Science. Science, Technology and Engineering do not address that major issues of life; <i>scientism</i> is an intellectual and a moral error. Technology and Science are value neutral &#8212; otherwise they could not properly function. Certainly, they will not keep vouchsafe our human dignity, liberty or prosperity in and of themselves, or even as the leading disciplines among many. As Chesterton once remarked, &#8220;One does not ask one&#8217;s horse where one wants to go&#8221; (or something like that).</p>
<p>Let me add that, when properly taught, these curricula should by no means be &#8220;easy&#8221; or for for people somehow else gifted or serious than those who would pursue  science or engineering curricula.</p>
<p>Of course, to have such  curricula, one would have to accept the standards, canon, knowledge, theories, practices and spirit of the Western heritage. Avoiding (destroying?) all this is rather the point of the current Academy. Short of revolutionary mobs in the quadrangle, the only way to effect change may be litigation and legislation.</p>
<p>This is an extremely serious issue &#8212; one much more dire than this overblown and over-hyped &#8220;financial crisis&#8221; that the Left is using for political cover this season.</p>
<p>The growing intellectual mediocrity of America is one of the next bubbles to pop, and it will be a loud one indeed.</p>
<p>We can grouse about a socialist ascendancy all we want, but we must remember that in the end socialism is much too parasitical to succeed.</p>
<p>Given the state of competition in the world today, we have little room to maneuver.</p>
<p>The American people really need to wake up and figure out what the left is up too.<br />
Knaves and fools all.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got that right Mongoose, have you ever been to the People&#039;s Republic of Ann Arbor? (also know as the University of Michigan) It makes my head hurt when I talk to my buddy who is the only Republican in the History Department. The crap that passes as education these days is staggering. Having a degree, in anything but hard science, from any Univesity should permanently disbar the receipient from office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got that right Mongoose, have you ever been to the People&#8217;s Republic of Ann Arbor? (also know as the University of Michigan) It makes my head hurt when I talk to my buddy who is the only Republican in the History Department. The crap that passes as education these days is staggering. Having a degree, in anything but hard science, from any Univesity should permanently disbar the receipient from office.</p>
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