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		<title>By: Barry 0351</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/12/17/standing-in-the-way-of-the-future/#comment-26826</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry 0351</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would fly my country&#039;s flag too and should the EU want to remove it I would invite them to try.
Backed by a military fist to stop that attempt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would fly my country&#8217;s flag too and should the EU want to remove it I would invite them to try.<br />
Backed by a military fist to stop that attempt.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;The loss of personal liberty in the EU is staggering.

Politicians in Brussels decreed that British citizens living and working at home in the UK cannot work overtime.&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;

To me, the irony is huge. The late Middle Ages saw the rise of what would one day become the Middle Class. These industrious ex-peasants created what became known as &quot;Cottage Industries,&quot; which involved &quot;Moonlighting&quot; when the full Moon permitted it, and keeping the hearth fire stoked so they could work into the late evening. The authorities (representing the interests of the aristocracy and the Church) created something called a &quot;Curfew&quot; (&quot;Couvre Feux&quot;) to try to curb the practice of live fires after sunset under the guise of promoting &quot;Public Safety.&quot; Sound familiar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;The loss of personal liberty in the EU is staggering.</p>
<p>Politicians in Brussels decreed that British citizens living and working at home in the UK cannot work overtime.&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"</p>
<p>To me, the irony is huge. The late Middle Ages saw the rise of what would one day become the Middle Class. These industrious ex-peasants created what became known as &#8220;Cottage Industries,&#8221; which involved &#8220;Moonlighting&#8221; when the full Moon permitted it, and keeping the hearth fire stoked so they could work into the late evening. The authorities (representing the interests of the aristocracy and the Church) created something called a &#8220;Curfew&#8221; (&#8220;Couvre Feux&#8221;) to try to curb the practice of live fires after sunset under the guise of promoting &#8220;Public Safety.&#8221; Sound familiar?</p>
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		<title>By: Starling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had not heard much about Klaus until about a month ago when &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/world/europe/25klaus.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The New York Times&lt;/a&gt; ran a hatchet job of an article about him. 


I knew I smelled a rat or two in the article but couldn&#039;t explain exactly how many. The next day &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2008/11/25/nyt-reporter-warns-arrogant-inflammatory-free-market-radical-set-embarr&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Newsbusters&lt;/a&gt; reported that &quot;New York Times European correspondent Dan Bilefsky bizarrely relayed the contents of a secret police file from the former Communist state of Czechoslovakia to boost his argument that Vaclav Klaus,the new president of the European Union, is a dangerously arrogant proponent of the free market.&quot;


When I read that I became a lot more fond of Klaus. But when I read this in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&amp;status=article&amp;id=312594699694248&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Investors Business Daily&lt;/a&gt;, I actually started to feel something akin to the audacity of hopeychanginess:

&quot;But this is nothing new. In 2003, Arie Oostlander, a Dutch member of the European Parliament, lamented that &quot;the worst thing that the Czechs could have done was to elect to the presidency a follower of Margaret Thatcher.&quot;

Yet Klaus, a student of the great F.A. Hayek and Milton Friedman, is exactly the sort of leader that Europe has to have. The liberty-minded defender of free markets has the opportunity to rock the continent out of its self-inflicted economic malaise.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had not heard much about Klaus until about a month ago when <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/world/europe/25klaus.html" rel="nofollow">The New York Times</a> ran a hatchet job of an article about him. </p>
<p>I knew I smelled a rat or two in the article but couldn&#8217;t explain exactly how many. The next day <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2008/11/25/nyt-reporter-warns-arrogant-inflammatory-free-market-radical-set-embarr" rel="nofollow">Newsbusters</a> reported that &#8220;New York Times European correspondent Dan Bilefsky bizarrely relayed the contents of a secret police file from the former Communist state of Czechoslovakia to boost his argument that Vaclav Klaus,the new president of the European Union, is a dangerously arrogant proponent of the free market.&#8221;</p>
<p>When I read that I became a lot more fond of Klaus. But when I read this in <a href="http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&amp;status=article&amp;id=312594699694248" rel="nofollow">Investors Business Daily</a>, I actually started to feel something akin to the audacity of hopeychanginess:</p>
<p>&#8220;But this is nothing new. In 2003, Arie Oostlander, a Dutch member of the European Parliament, lamented that &#8220;the worst thing that the Czechs could have done was to elect to the presidency a follower of Margaret Thatcher.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet Klaus, a student of the great F.A. Hayek and Milton Friedman, is exactly the sort of leader that Europe has to have. The liberty-minded defender of free markets has the opportunity to rock the continent out of its self-inflicted economic malaise.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lifeofthemind:  Precisely.  Eliminate the
symbols of the entities crucial to survival/well-being.  Then replace them 
with a symbol that means nothing EXCEPT
submission to the whims of the moment.  

Klaus, the man with both brains and balls, 
comitted blasphemy against their secular religion.   

Let us resolve to burn them at the stake before we are the one immolated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lifeofthemind:  Precisely.  Eliminate the<br />
symbols of the entities crucial to survival/well-being.  Then replace them<br />
with a symbol that means nothing EXCEPT<br />
submission to the whims of the moment.  </p>
<p>Klaus, the man with both brains and balls,<br />
comitted blasphemy against their secular religion.   </p>
<p>Let us resolve to burn them at the stake before we are the one immolated.</p>
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		<title>By: 3Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>3Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The last two posts have addressed the question paradox of why activism, which detests money, should need it. The other question is why activism,  which professes egalitarianism, should resort to the appeal of aristocracy.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Activists&quot; are thugs...as thugs, they are stupid and brutish.  On the first point, remember that old saying that begins &quot;When they say it&#039;s not about the money....&quot;  On the second, they submit themselves to their aristocracy so that they may be rewarded for their thuggery, which gets us back to the first point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The last two posts have addressed the question paradox of why activism, which detests money, should need it. The other question is why activism,  which professes egalitarianism, should resort to the appeal of aristocracy.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Activists&#8221; are thugs&#8230;as thugs, they are stupid and brutish.  On the first point, remember that old saying that begins &#8220;When they say it&#8217;s not about the money&#8230;.&#8221;  On the second, they submit themselves to their aristocracy so that they may be rewarded for their thuggery, which gets us back to the first point.</p>
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		<title>By: Beverly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, they&#039;ll teach them this instead.

&quot;The Internationale&quot; [variant words in square brackets]

Arise ye workers [starvelings] from your slumbers
Arise ye prisoners of want
For reason in revolt now thunders
And at last ends the age of cant.
Away with all your superstitions
Servile masses arise, arise
We&#039;ll change henceforth [forthwith] the old tradition [conditions]
And spurn the dust to win the prize.

So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.

No more deluded by reaction
On tyrants only we&#039;ll make war
The soldiers too will take strike action
They&#039;ll break ranks and fight no more
And if those cannibals keep trying
To sacrifice us to their pride
They soon shall hear the bullets flying
We&#039;ll shoot the generals on our own side.

No saviour from on high delivers
No faith have we in prince or peer
Our own right hand the chains must shiver
Chains of hatred, greed and fear
E&#039;er the thieves will out with their booty [give up their booty]
And give to all a happier lot.
Each [those] at the forge must do their duty
And we&#039;ll strike while the iron is hot.# # # 

Note the praise of fragging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, they&#8217;ll teach them this instead.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Internationale&#8221; [variant words in square brackets]</p>
<p>Arise ye workers [starvelings] from your slumbers<br />
Arise ye prisoners of want<br />
For reason in revolt now thunders<br />
And at last ends the age of cant.<br />
Away with all your superstitions<br />
Servile masses arise, arise<br />
We&#8217;ll change henceforth [forthwith] the old tradition [conditions]<br />
And spurn the dust to win the prize.</p>
<p>So comrades, come rally<br />
And the last fight let us face<br />
The Internationale unites the human race.<br />
So comrades, come rally<br />
And the last fight let us face<br />
The Internationale unites the human race.</p>
<p>No more deluded by reaction<br />
On tyrants only we&#8217;ll make war<br />
The soldiers too will take strike action<br />
They&#8217;ll break ranks and fight no more<br />
And if those cannibals keep trying<br />
To sacrifice us to their pride<br />
They soon shall hear the bullets flying<br />
We&#8217;ll shoot the generals on our own side.</p>
<p>No saviour from on high delivers<br />
No faith have we in prince or peer<br />
Our own right hand the chains must shiver<br />
Chains of hatred, greed and fear<br />
E&#8217;er the thieves will out with their booty [give up their booty]<br />
And give to all a happier lot.<br />
Each [those] at the forge must do their duty<br />
And we&#8217;ll strike while the iron is hot.# # # </p>
<p>Note the praise of fragging.</p>
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		<title>By: Lifeofthemind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lifeofthemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave,
My point is that they want the EU flag precisely because no one gives a damn about it. No one can seriously be expected to grab the EU flag and lead the peasantry into battle. They want to blot out the Czech flag or the Union Jack because those are symbols the proletariate get excited about. Perhaps they will start teaching children to sing an Ode to the OECD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave,<br />
My point is that they want the EU flag precisely because no one gives a damn about it. No one can seriously be expected to grab the EU flag and lead the peasantry into battle. They want to blot out the Czech flag or the Union Jack because those are symbols the proletariate get excited about. Perhaps they will start teaching children to sing an Ode to the OECD.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the late Fr Malachi Martin, Pope John Paul II was convinced that Europe would be where the big blowup would originate. (Keys Of This Blood).

Do not know if that will prove accurate or not.  However, a pissing contest over something as trivial as a flag display is something of an ominous warning. Indicates that ideological ego gratification can blot out real needs of statecraft.  Remember 
a minor Archduke getting assinated in 1914?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the late Fr Malachi Martin, Pope John Paul II was convinced that Europe would be where the big blowup would originate. (Keys Of This Blood).</p>
<p>Do not know if that will prove accurate or not.  However, a pissing contest over something as trivial as a flag display is something of an ominous warning. Indicates that ideological ego gratification can blot out real needs of statecraft.  Remember<br />
a minor Archduke getting assinated in 1914?</p>
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		<title>By: Lifeofthemind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lifeofthemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was absolutely brilliant. Americans largely do not understand how undemocratic the EU is and how special our gift of Federalism is. The Swiss could help in teaching the difference between a top down structure like the EU and a bottom up structure like the US. &quot;Subsidiarity&quot; is not the same as popular sovereignty. We must understand that Europe was cobbled together this way for a very good reason. After two world wars it was decided that the greatest threat to peace was Nationalism and the democratic energies that flowed from the French Revolution through the Romantic Age and then gave rise to Imperialism and Fascism. Given that the result was 25 million dead and a civilization destroyed the idea of not sacrificing again on the altar of German, English or Irish identity has some appeal. The EU is a profoundly Conservative, in the sense of being Reactionary concept. Christianity has been replaced by Socialist dogma and post-Modernism but the goals are not much different than those of the Congress of Vienna. The elites of both times would understand. The difference now is that Europe is smaller and demographically shrinking while the moslems who were peripheral and harmless then are now actively taking over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was absolutely brilliant. Americans largely do not understand how undemocratic the EU is and how special our gift of Federalism is. The Swiss could help in teaching the difference between a top down structure like the EU and a bottom up structure like the US. &#8220;Subsidiarity&#8221; is not the same as popular sovereignty. We must understand that Europe was cobbled together this way for a very good reason. After two world wars it was decided that the greatest threat to peace was Nationalism and the democratic energies that flowed from the French Revolution through the Romantic Age and then gave rise to Imperialism and Fascism. Given that the result was 25 million dead and a civilization destroyed the idea of not sacrificing again on the altar of German, English or Irish identity has some appeal. The EU is a profoundly Conservative, in the sense of being Reactionary concept. Christianity has been replaced by Socialist dogma and post-Modernism but the goals are not much different than those of the Congress of Vienna. The elites of both times would understand. The difference now is that Europe is smaller and demographically shrinking while the moslems who were peripheral and harmless then are now actively taking over.</p>
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		<title>By: X3NA</title>
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		<dc:creator>X3NA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Politicians in Brussels decreed that British citizens living and working at home in the UK cannot work overtime.&lt;/i&gt;

And how do they enforce that, with little vans going up and down the street in the middle of the night with antennas which can detect desktop keystrokes?  If they see the text &lt;i&gt;&quot;Quarterly Profit Estimates&quot;&lt;/i&gt; rather than &lt;i&gt;&quot;oh baby when you put your big boobs against my back it always turns my stomach&quot;&lt;/i&gt; do they stop and issue a ticket?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Politicians in Brussels decreed that British citizens living and working at home in the UK cannot work overtime.</i></p>
<p>And how do they enforce that, with little vans going up and down the street in the middle of the night with antennas which can detect desktop keystrokes?  If they see the text <i>&#8220;Quarterly Profit Estimates&#8221;</i> rather than <i>&#8220;oh baby when you put your big boobs against my back it always turns my stomach&#8221;</i> do they stop and issue a ticket?</p>
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