Comments on: The long haul http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/ Just another Pajamasmedia.com weblog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: 11-17-08 | Drive Time Happy Hour http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22539 11-17-08 | Drive Time Happy Hour Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:27:30 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22539 [...] Richard Fernandez: David Kilcullen writes that Afghanistan is still winnable. But only just…The bottom line here is that the War on Terror is far from over. Whether we are, as Churchill once said, not at the beginning of the end, but at least at the end of the beginning ultimately depends on whether there is a consensus in the West that can sustain the long campaign that Kilcullen describes. [...] [...] Richard Fernandez: David Kilcullen writes that Afghanistan is still winnable. But only just…The bottom line here is that the War on Terror is far from over. Whether we are, as Churchill once said, not at the beginning of the end, but at least at the end of the beginning ultimately depends on whether there is a consensus in the West that can sustain the long campaign that Kilcullen describes. [...]

]]> By: Eggplant http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22478 Eggplant Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:31:50 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22478 NahnCee asked: "No one thinks that Israel (/America) is gonna nuke Iran before Bush leaves office? And maybe Syria at the same time?" No way. Bush is now a complete lame duck. If he gave such an order it would be ignored. Iran is now Obama's problem (heaven help us). NahnCee asked:

“No one thinks that Israel (/America) is gonna nuke Iran before Bush leaves office? And maybe Syria at the same time?”

No way. Bush is now a complete lame duck. If he gave such an order it would be ignored. Iran is now Obama’s problem (heaven help us).

]]> By: NahnCee http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22450 NahnCee Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:08:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22450 The ARabs don't think so. All the Middle East on-line newspapers are up in arms over his appointment, certain-sure that he's been named just to be mean to the Palestinians. The ARabs don’t think so. All the Middle East on-line newspapers are up in arms over his appointment, certain-sure that he’s been named just to be mean to the Palestinians.

]]> By: Stew http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22436 Stew Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:50:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22436 What am I missing? Rahm's a Jew. Is he going to sell out his own? What am I missing? Rahm’s a Jew. Is he going to sell out his own?

]]> By: Habu http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22399 Habu Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:59:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22399 DAVE....."Buy the opium plant—-the whole thing, not just the buds—-. Convert it all to petroleum." That would make it hight test wouldn't it? DAVE…..”Buy the opium plant—-the whole thing, not just the buds—-. Convert it all to petroleum.”

That would make it hight test wouldn’t it?

]]> By: buddy larsen http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22392 buddy larsen Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:40:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22392 Fred --yes, not just the elevation but the water. Fred –yes, not just the elevation but the water.

]]> By: NahnCee http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22380 NahnCee Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:16:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22380 No one thinks that Israel (/America) is gonna nuke Iran before Bush leaves office? And maybe Syria at the same time? ... wishful thinking ... No one thinks that Israel (/America) is gonna nuke Iran before Bush leaves office? And maybe Syria at the same time?

… wishful thinking …

]]> By: fred http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22363 fred Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:43:23 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22363 Yes, I also heard the Oobonga administration wants Israel to give up its nukes AND the Golan. The pretty much want Israel to be a** raped by dar al Islam. Even though Israel has never threatened its neighbors with its nukes and its arsenal is strictly a weapon of deterrence. Plus, these knuckleheads consider our own arsenal as an offensive weapon. So, there goes MAD - a policy that has kept us safe from the Soviets and other predators. They don't even believe in the ballistic missile shield. So, they pretty much are down with the reality that we could be a** raped too. Giving up the Golan to Syria pretty much finishes off the Jewish state, since Syria will then have an amazing position from which to finish off the Zionist entity. Yes, I also heard the Oobonga administration wants Israel to give up its nukes AND the Golan. The pretty much want Israel to be a** raped by dar al Islam. Even though Israel has never threatened its neighbors with its nukes and its arsenal is strictly a weapon of deterrence.

Plus, these knuckleheads consider our own arsenal as an offensive weapon. So, there goes MAD – a policy that has kept us safe from the Soviets and other predators. They don’t even believe in the ballistic missile shield. So, they pretty much are down with the reality that we could be a** raped too.

Giving up the Golan to Syria pretty much finishes off the Jewish state, since Syria will then have an amazing position from which to finish off the Zionist entity.

]]> By: Jay http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22358 Jay Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:53:38 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22358 The Obamites are now talking about forcing Israel to agree to a phony peace and get rid of their nukes. Obama is a friend of the Muslim world. Rahm will help facilitate this policy shift. The Obamites are now talking about forcing Israel to agree to a phony peace and get rid of their nukes. Obama is a friend of the Muslim world. Rahm will help facilitate this policy shift.

]]> By: dull as dirt http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/15/the-long-haul/#comment-22341 dull as dirt Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:04:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/?p=1014#comment-22341 <i>The USA is moving quickly into a posture of pacifism and isolationism.</i> - Mike Sylwester Fine by me as long as we're sitting on a bad-@ss military. I wouldn't mind a "take five (years)" breather to allow some quality face time for the rest of the world to catch up. Mika argues that man cannot govern when weapons are part of the equation. As an ultimate end point, I think that's accurate, but as a near-term objective, no. The saintly side of mankind may yet win out, but today, it's the sinner that has center stage. The USA is moving quickly into a posture of pacifism and isolationism. – Mike Sylwester

Fine by me as long as we’re sitting on a bad-@ss military. I wouldn’t mind a “take five (years)” breather to allow some quality face time for the rest of the world to catch up.

Mika argues that man cannot govern when weapons are part of the equation. As an ultimate end point, I think that’s accurate, but as a near-term objective, no. The saintly side of mankind may yet win out, but today, it’s the sinner that has center stage.

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