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		<title>By: Annoy Mouse</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/11/getting-what-you-want/#comment-21712</link>
		<dc:creator>Annoy Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“In the old model, in which committed relationships were understood to be permanent, the people involved often came to see, accept and even love the other for who they really were.”

Funny, this nicely explains my hypothesis that as Bush-hangers-on could always find ways to justify things that were against the grains of their own ideals, nation building, et al, the Obama-ites will find no difficulty in rallying behind whatever course of action Mr. Obama makes. Like Choice is now the alternative of responsibility for Life, divorce an alternative to wedded resolve to preserver through understanding and compromise, so too we look at the office of the president as temporary, not only because the next election is only around the corner, but impeachment is no longer the final alternate.
  True believers will remain steadfast. Pragmatists will cite; “He is a bastard, but he is our bastard.” This is all as it should be. President Bush proclaimed; “I am a uniter, not a divider.” This is all well and fine but as in any relationship, it takes two to tango and if you are up against an abusive, hateful partner, your fate is already made spite the best of intentions.

Now it will be interesting if the Media can now control their star or if they, from the sidelines, will be relegated to mere cheerleaders for the One.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“In the old model, in which committed relationships were understood to be permanent, the people involved often came to see, accept and even love the other for who they really were.”</p>
<p>Funny, this nicely explains my hypothesis that as Bush-hangers-on could always find ways to justify things that were against the grains of their own ideals, nation building, et al, the Obama-ites will find no difficulty in rallying behind whatever course of action Mr. Obama makes. Like Choice is now the alternative of responsibility for Life, divorce an alternative to wedded resolve to preserver through understanding and compromise, so too we look at the office of the president as temporary, not only because the next election is only around the corner, but impeachment is no longer the final alternate.<br />
  True believers will remain steadfast. Pragmatists will cite; “He is a bastard, but he is our bastard.” This is all as it should be. President Bush proclaimed; “I am a uniter, not a divider.” This is all well and fine but as in any relationship, it takes two to tango and if you are up against an abusive, hateful partner, your fate is already made spite the best of intentions.</p>
<p>Now it will be interesting if the Media can now control their star or if they, from the sidelines, will be relegated to mere cheerleaders for the One.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hoskins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hoskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, not done.
My previous relates to the real topic of this thread directly.  Many bet on the come.  Now the dice are in the cup.  They will hit the table in January and we will see the results in the first 100 days.

Some of the people I know took that approach...others voted for the place where they plan to live and die.  We now have to wait for the politics to return to normal and refight the same old battle, between those who have all the answers, but none of the questions and those who have questions and are seeking answers.

Now I am really done...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, not done.<br />
My previous relates to the real topic of this thread directly.  Many bet on the come.  Now the dice are in the cup.  They will hit the table in January and we will see the results in the first 100 days.</p>
<p>Some of the people I know took that approach&#8230;others voted for the place where they plan to live and die.  We now have to wait for the politics to return to normal and refight the same old battle, between those who have all the answers, but none of the questions and those who have questions and are seeking answers.</p>
<p>Now I am really done&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hoskins</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/11/getting-what-you-want/#comment-21708</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hoskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorta close to the topic...
MA #8.
There should only be two reasons for buying a house, to make money on a later sale or to pay it off and live in it until you die.  There was a time when when the second was the norm.  Now, as society has become highly moble and financially sophisticated, the first has become more prominent, thus the bubble.  (Remember the S&amp;L crises that first haunted McCain...same states, same scam, different leverage techniques).

What the home ownership segment of the real estate market should not be is a tax benefit.  You should buy a home because you are willing to take the risk or you plan to stay there. (Yes all plans change...)  When planning to stay, the idea of living on beans and rice and rice and beans for a while to make a killing doesn&#039;t enter the game.

OK...a lot off topic. I&#039;m done now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorta close to the topic&#8230;<br />
MA #8.<br />
There should only be two reasons for buying a house, to make money on a later sale or to pay it off and live in it until you die.  There was a time when when the second was the norm.  Now, as society has become highly moble and financially sophisticated, the first has become more prominent, thus the bubble.  (Remember the S&amp;L crises that first haunted McCain&#8230;same states, same scam, different leverage techniques).</p>
<p>What the home ownership segment of the real estate market should not be is a tax benefit.  You should buy a home because you are willing to take the risk or you plan to stay there. (Yes all plans change&#8230;)  When planning to stay, the idea of living on beans and rice and rice and beans for a while to make a killing doesn&#8217;t enter the game.</p>
<p>OK&#8230;a lot off topic. I&#8217;m done now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill R</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/11/getting-what-you-want/#comment-21684</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;He’ll make himself appear Carter-weak&lt;/I&gt;

Carter II.  Disloyalty to subordinates, Inflation, recession, in-your-face radical Islamic attack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He’ll make himself appear Carter-weak</i></p>
<p>Carter II.  Disloyalty to subordinates, Inflation, recession, in-your-face radical Islamic attack.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT, Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPT, Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something different for the fellow commenters at BC...

http://tiny.cc/z9Ht1

Let&#039;s see if we can avoid this alt-real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something different for the fellow commenters at BC&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://tiny.cc/z9Ht1" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/z9Ht1</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if we can avoid this alt-real.</p>
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		<title>By: Tarnsman</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/11/getting-what-you-want/#comment-21666</link>
		<dc:creator>Tarnsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Jindall in 2012
Rudy plans runs for Governor of New York in 2010.  If he wins and transforms New York State like he did in New York City, two years later the buzz will all be Rudy. Especially if Obama pulls a Jimmy Carter/first two years of Clinton.  Jindall will be mentioned as a possible VP pick. 

One has to wonder if it had been Rudy/Sarah in 2008 would the estimated 7 million Republican/conservative voters that sat out the election have shown up at the polls?  I think so and would have made the contest a repay of 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Jindall in 2012<br />
Rudy plans runs for Governor of New York in 2010.  If he wins and transforms New York State like he did in New York City, two years later the buzz will all be Rudy. Especially if Obama pulls a Jimmy Carter/first two years of Clinton.  Jindall will be mentioned as a possible VP pick. </p>
<p>One has to wonder if it had been Rudy/Sarah in 2008 would the estimated 7 million Republican/conservative voters that sat out the election have shown up at the polls?  I think so and would have made the contest a repay of 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Fingers Crossed&#8230;He&#8217;s a flip-flopping liar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fingers Crossed&#8230;He&#8217;s a flip-flopping liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Club covers Obama buyers remorse.: The time-lag factor affects everything. Much of Obama’s foreign policy toward Iraq was formed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Club covers Obama buyers remorse.: The time-lag factor affects everything. Much of Obama’s foreign policy toward Iraq was formed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: slade</title>
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		<dc:creator>slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I suppose the Wharton School Geeks could also (if they took a notion) conjur up esoteric mathematical mumbo-jumbo formulae&lt;/i&gt; - outa my league

Actually I think it was the boys at MIT who did most of the heavy design, but I expect the Wharton crowd was jealous.

If there&#039;s anything funny about any of it, try watching Joe Kernan (MS MIT) and Carl Quintanilla go at it.

A real hoot, especially with Nouriel Roubini on the set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I suppose the Wharton School Geeks could also (if they took a notion) conjur up esoteric mathematical mumbo-jumbo formulae</i> &#8211; outa my league</p>
<p>Actually I think it was the boys at MIT who did most of the heavy design, but I expect the Wharton crowd was jealous.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s anything funny about any of it, try watching Joe Kernan (MS MIT) and Carl Quintanilla go at it.</p>
<p>A real hoot, especially with Nouriel Roubini on the set.</p>
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		<title>By: slade</title>
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		<dc:creator>slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch the Republicans do the same thing to Jindall in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch the Republicans do the same thing to Jindall in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Semi Cartman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semi Cartman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;President-Elect Obama appears to be attempting to stack his cabinet with Senate colleagues. His overtures are causing embarrassment.&lt;/i&gt;

This observation is pretty interesting. Any communication like this should be done on the hush-hush, through channels. We teeming millions shouldn&#039;t be hearing about it. He&#039;ll make himself appear Carter-weak a month before taking office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>President-Elect Obama appears to be attempting to stack his cabinet with Senate colleagues. His overtures are causing embarrassment.</i></p>
<p>This observation is pretty interesting. Any communication like this should be done on the hush-hush, through channels. We teeming millions shouldn&#8217;t be hearing about it. He&#8217;ll make himself appear Carter-weak a month before taking office.</p>
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