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		<title>By: Ms. Know</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/09/which-was-made-of-brass/#comment-22182</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These churches here in the US are doing the same thing, by selling babies, and if they throw their support behind the elitist illuminati, it gets swept under the door.  Where&#039;s the media when you need them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These churches here in the US are doing the same thing, by selling babies, and if they throw their support behind the elitist illuminati, it gets swept under the door.  Where&#8217;s the media when you need them?</p>
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		<title>By: The Count</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/09/which-was-made-of-brass/#comment-21587</link>
		<dc:creator>The Count</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too thought of the Altar of Molech in a recent post of mine &lt;a href=&quot;http://strangemonkeydoll.com/2008/10/17/obamas-abortion-extremism-and-his-evangelical-pro-life-apologists/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama&#039;s Abortion Extremism&lt;/a&gt;.

The desire for Obama&#039;s social justice platform was so great that people were willing to risk a drastic increase in abortions via the Freedom of Choice Act. Sacrifice the children for what you hold most dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too thought of the Altar of Molech in a recent post of mine <a href="http://strangemonkeydoll.com/2008/10/17/obamas-abortion-extremism-and-his-evangelical-pro-life-apologists/" rel="nofollow">Obama&#8217;s Abortion Extremism</a>.</p>
<p>The desire for Obama&#8217;s social justice platform was so great that people were willing to risk a drastic increase in abortions via the Freedom of Choice Act. Sacrifice the children for what you hold most dear.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, at $2500 a pop, Madonna could probably buy them by the dozens. She could train them to be dancers when she puts Lourdes on tour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, at $2500 a pop, Madonna could probably buy them by the dozens. She could train them to be dancers when she puts Lourdes on tour.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Men, women, and children have been impressed into servitude since history started being written down.

I would also suggest that slavery and prostitution are more common and closer than we&#039;d like to believe.

Raising a child to be a slave, part of a harem, or to be a prostitute, is probably much much easier than subjugation of the unwilling. They&#039;ll never know the difference, if they&#039;ve never seen the options.

Of course, if they fail to participate, or get used up, it&#039;s quite easy to kill them and have no-one be the wiser. Much harder if you uproot them from families, where they might be missed, or maybe even looked for.

I would suggest that people aren&#039;t only sacrificed to pagan gods, but also to the pride of those who would wield power over others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men, women, and children have been impressed into servitude since history started being written down.</p>
<p>I would also suggest that slavery and prostitution are more common and closer than we&#8217;d like to believe.</p>
<p>Raising a child to be a slave, part of a harem, or to be a prostitute, is probably much much easier than subjugation of the unwilling. They&#8217;ll never know the difference, if they&#8217;ve never seen the options.</p>
<p>Of course, if they fail to participate, or get used up, it&#8217;s quite easy to kill them and have no-one be the wiser. Much harder if you uproot them from families, where they might be missed, or maybe even looked for.</p>
<p>I would suggest that people aren&#8217;t only sacrificed to pagan gods, but also to the pride of those who would wield power over others.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrasymachus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrasymachus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People in the West do not appreciate the extent to which women and children are protected here. In other places life is very cheap, most people are not tracked or accounted for, and if they disappear nobody misses them. The police are few and uninvolved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People in the West do not appreciate the extent to which women and children are protected here. In other places life is very cheap, most people are not tracked or accounted for, and if they disappear nobody misses them. The police are few and uninvolved.</p>
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		<title>By: nichevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nichevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;27. Pascal:

Sylwester: “The births are not being arranged in order produce children to become slave laborers and prostitutes. What’s the evidence for that claim?”

As Wretchard said, those were the lucky ones. By still living they cannot be among the charred remains suggestive of organ harvesters.

Let us see, hmmm.

We have your authoritative assurance that these lesser crimes are without evidence.

But we have evidence of the greater crimes.

There must be a huge gap in your world where people can be raised to provide body parts and yet — somehow — other less drastic uses of their bodies NEVER entered the minds of the cultivators. Thanks very much Mike. Your reassurance is magical.
Nov 9, 2008 - 11:57 am&quot;


May I interrupt with a little fact here?  As a veteran donor of whole blood, platelets, and bone marrow stem cells, and a longtime friend of a young man who had two kidney transplants, I can tell you that getting a good match is not a matter of going in where life is cheapest.  Cedarford will be pleased to know that different ethnic groups usually prefer (i.e. have the best results with) transplanted tissues from those more or less of their own kind, to put it crudely.  A black/Puerto-Rican six-year-old with leukemia will probably have the closest match with a black/Puerto-Rican donor.  

THOUGH THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, it is probable.

I do know that some ethnic communities are underserved with tissue matching for, say stem cells, because even when a rapper like Nelly puts on a benefit for a sick relative, response is very low.  It may disagree with some cultures or religious or ethnic practices that I don&#039;t know about, though all major religions permit it, I believe.  

But the idea that a rich American, European or PacRim type, overwhelmingly likely to be nonblack, is going to seek for the most probable candidate for matching his or her vital organ (and the price of a mismatch is organ rejection) in a Saharan or Gold Coast entrépot brimming with malnutrition, disease and wickedness?  Not on.  

Unless you think there are enough African potentates, or world potentates with African blood, to support it.  Or will pay for endless recruiting and tissue typing (and those phlebotomies and tests may be less in Africa but they aren&#039;t free) in hopes of striking lucky.  Or that African medicine negates HLAs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;27. Pascal:</p>
<p>Sylwester: “The births are not being arranged in order produce children to become slave laborers and prostitutes. What’s the evidence for that claim?”</p>
<p>As Wretchard said, those were the lucky ones. By still living they cannot be among the charred remains suggestive of organ harvesters.</p>
<p>Let us see, hmmm.</p>
<p>We have your authoritative assurance that these lesser crimes are without evidence.</p>
<p>But we have evidence of the greater crimes.</p>
<p>There must be a huge gap in your world where people can be raised to provide body parts and yet — somehow — other less drastic uses of their bodies NEVER entered the minds of the cultivators. Thanks very much Mike. Your reassurance is magical.<br />
Nov 9, 2008 &#8211; 11:57 am&#8221;</p>
<p>May I interrupt with a little fact here?  As a veteran donor of whole blood, platelets, and bone marrow stem cells, and a longtime friend of a young man who had two kidney transplants, I can tell you that getting a good match is not a matter of going in where life is cheapest.  Cedarford will be pleased to know that different ethnic groups usually prefer (i.e. have the best results with) transplanted tissues from those more or less of their own kind, to put it crudely.  A black/Puerto-Rican six-year-old with leukemia will probably have the closest match with a black/Puerto-Rican donor.  </p>
<p>THOUGH THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE, it is probable.</p>
<p>I do know that some ethnic communities are underserved with tissue matching for, say stem cells, because even when a rapper like Nelly puts on a benefit for a sick relative, response is very low.  It may disagree with some cultures or religious or ethnic practices that I don&#8217;t know about, though all major religions permit it, I believe.  </p>
<p>But the idea that a rich American, European or PacRim type, overwhelmingly likely to be nonblack, is going to seek for the most probable candidate for matching his or her vital organ (and the price of a mismatch is organ rejection) in a Saharan or Gold Coast entrépot brimming with malnutrition, disease and wickedness?  Not on.  </p>
<p>Unless you think there are enough African potentates, or world potentates with African blood, to support it.  Or will pay for endless recruiting and tissue typing (and those phlebotomies and tests may be less in Africa but they aren&#8217;t free) in hopes of striking lucky.  Or that African medicine negates HLAs.</p>
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		<title>By: outa my league</title>
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		<dc:creator>outa my league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sylwester - The Nazis didn&#039;t bother to sell the Jews, but they did harvest their teeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sylwester &#8211; The Nazis didn&#8217;t bother to sell the Jews, but they did harvest their teeth.</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about the body part scam scenario, however, kids who are not readily adoptable cannot be counted as an asset, by any stretch. They have already been dehumanized in the slave master&#039;s eyes, and narrowly made into a fungible commodity with not too great a trade value outside of cultural settings or inclinations toward other urges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about the body part scam scenario, however, kids who are not readily adoptable cannot be counted as an asset, by any stretch. They have already been dehumanized in the slave master&#8217;s eyes, and narrowly made into a fungible commodity with not too great a trade value outside of cultural settings or inclinations toward other urges.</p>
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		<title>By: RattlerGator</title>
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		<dc:creator>RattlerGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hesitate to add this; and because I&#039;m rushing I probably shouldn&#039;t but feel compelled to go ahead and hit the submit button.

You appear to have a very serious lack of imagination, Mike Sylwester, and an equally serious lack of appreciation of what humans are routinely capable of. Both of which appear to be exceeded only by the blind certainty that you may with some degree of certainty place yourself within the context of Nigeria and accurately determine -- in the absence of documented evidence to the contrary -- what is reality.

You ask and answer: Who else wants to purchase infants? Nobody, you claim.

Really?

I think you are profoundly wrong about that. And although I can&#039;t with clarity say why, I have an image of Mullah Omar in my mind right now, smugly staring at me through the video camera and asking of American concerns about Taliban atrocities and 9/11 connections, &quot;Where is your proof? What proof do you have.&quot;

Mike Sylwester; human creativity and criminal enterprises. Think about it some more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hesitate to add this; and because I&#8217;m rushing I probably shouldn&#8217;t but feel compelled to go ahead and hit the submit button.</p>
<p>You appear to have a very serious lack of imagination, Mike Sylwester, and an equally serious lack of appreciation of what humans are routinely capable of. Both of which appear to be exceeded only by the blind certainty that you may with some degree of certainty place yourself within the context of Nigeria and accurately determine &#8212; in the absence of documented evidence to the contrary &#8212; what is reality.</p>
<p>You ask and answer: Who else wants to purchase infants? Nobody, you claim.</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>I think you are profoundly wrong about that. And although I can&#8217;t with clarity say why, I have an image of Mullah Omar in my mind right now, smugly staring at me through the video camera and asking of American concerns about Taliban atrocities and 9/11 connections, &#8220;Where is your proof? What proof do you have.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike Sylwester; human creativity and criminal enterprises. Think about it some more.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Largely agreed.  The infants must be for Western adoptions/sale, with a few supplying the local body-parts-for-magic market.  Incidental fees associated with adoptions could be big bucks.  It would be too much effort to raise them for slaves or prostitutes; with one caveat.  The belief that sex with a virgin cures AIDS is widespread in Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Largely agreed.  The infants must be for Western adoptions/sale, with a few supplying the local body-parts-for-magic market.  Incidental fees associated with adoptions could be big bucks.  It would be too much effort to raise them for slaves or prostitutes; with one caveat.  The belief that sex with a virgin cures AIDS is widespread in Africa.</p>
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