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		<title>By: Ms. Know</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/04/the-death-of-a-brand/#comment-22199</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Know</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe everyone who said they were independent, truly were.  Those polls were majority in favor of the left-wing illuminati, and turned some GOP voters away, thinking they didn&#039;t need to vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe everyone who said they were independent, truly were.  Those polls were majority in favor of the left-wing illuminati, and turned some GOP voters away, thinking they didn&#8217;t need to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Snowflakes in Hell » Lessons from Toppling Tinpot Dictators</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowflakes in Hell » Lessons from Toppling Tinpot Dictators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Belmont Club has an interesting lesson I think Second Amendment Activists could take to heart.  In the comments: One thing I learned from hard experience is you always start from where people are. Not from where [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Belmont Club has an interesting lesson I think Second Amendment Activists could take to heart.  In the comments: One thing I learned from hard experience is you always start from where people are. Not from where [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aether</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/04/the-death-of-a-brand/#comment-20668</link>
		<dc:creator>Aether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America needs a Re-Constitution</description>
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		<title>By: Shivermetimbers</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/11/04/the-death-of-a-brand/#comment-20526</link>
		<dc:creator>Shivermetimbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is one bright light in this I believe, is that the democrats now own the executive branch, the senate, and house. But, they do not have a filibuster majority in the senate. This will allow the republicans to filibuster the worst measures the democrats send through, and at the very least, expose them to the public. If we did not have this, I would things to be pushed into law with out the public being aware. 

So, the dems are in charge and should have full accountability. Hopefully, if they try to push their crazy left wing agenda, the republican&#039;s can effectively expose it.

If the situation was that McCain won, the dems would have blocked all of his initiatives and blamed him for everything.

The republicans need to be smart in how they use this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is one bright light in this I believe, is that the democrats now own the executive branch, the senate, and house. But, they do not have a filibuster majority in the senate. This will allow the republicans to filibuster the worst measures the democrats send through, and at the very least, expose them to the public. If we did not have this, I would things to be pushed into law with out the public being aware. </p>
<p>So, the dems are in charge and should have full accountability. Hopefully, if they try to push their crazy left wing agenda, the republican&#8217;s can effectively expose it.</p>
<p>If the situation was that McCain won, the dems would have blocked all of his initiatives and blamed him for everything.</p>
<p>The republicans need to be smart in how they use this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Dumbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Dumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll leave the last word to Rush Limbaugh.  Still I have to echo his sentiments, I don&#039;t think young voters reject conservatism, but rather they have simply not been exposed to conservative principles.  Honestly, do you know any mainstream media outlet where conservative principles of limited government/enumerated powers are articulated and defended?

The blueprint for success rejected by centrists is to be true to limited government principles at the cost of losing compassionate conservative voters who seek economic security from the federal government. 

This from Rush this morning:

&quot;What we are dealing with today, the opportunity that we have actually is the rebirth of principled opposition, an opposition rooted in conviction, not opposition for opposition&#039;s sake, not opposition for political expedience.  I don&#039;t know if you know this, I don&#039;t know if you heard this on television last night.  Do you know that with the defeat of the moderate Chris Shays in Connecticut, we don&#039;t have a single conservative -- sorry -- we don&#039;t have a single Republican member of the House of Representatives from the great Northeast?  All of those moderates, all those moderate Republicans, liberal Republicans who thought the only way to get elected and run the affairs of the House was to be moderate, was to be centrist.  Guess where they are?  Gone.  They are gone.  An opportunity for cleansing, ladies and gentlemen, like we haven&#039;t seen in a long time.  This is all positive, well, for our side, the opportunity to build.  We&#039;ve got some serious challenges ahead in pushing back what no doubt is going to come.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll leave the last word to Rush Limbaugh.  Still I have to echo his sentiments, I don&#8217;t think young voters reject conservatism, but rather they have simply not been exposed to conservative principles.  Honestly, do you know any mainstream media outlet where conservative principles of limited government/enumerated powers are articulated and defended?</p>
<p>The blueprint for success rejected by centrists is to be true to limited government principles at the cost of losing compassionate conservative voters who seek economic security from the federal government. </p>
<p>This from Rush this morning:</p>
<p>&#8220;What we are dealing with today, the opportunity that we have actually is the rebirth of principled opposition, an opposition rooted in conviction, not opposition for opposition&#8217;s sake, not opposition for political expedience.  I don&#8217;t know if you know this, I don&#8217;t know if you heard this on television last night.  Do you know that with the defeat of the moderate Chris Shays in Connecticut, we don&#8217;t have a single conservative &#8212; sorry &#8212; we don&#8217;t have a single Republican member of the House of Representatives from the great Northeast?  All of those moderates, all those moderate Republicans, liberal Republicans who thought the only way to get elected and run the affairs of the House was to be moderate, was to be centrist.  Guess where they are?  Gone.  They are gone.  An opportunity for cleansing, ladies and gentlemen, like we haven&#8217;t seen in a long time.  This is all positive, well, for our side, the opportunity to build.  We&#8217;ve got some serious challenges ahead in pushing back what no doubt is going to come.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Aurelius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Aurelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the members of the press will not change because the shares of their company lose value, but they will lose ability to spread their views.

AngryDumbo, you are onto something, I think this divide is also a false one. A lot of what is considered to be socially unacceptable are also characteristics that often lead to poverty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the members of the press will not change because the shares of their company lose value, but they will lose ability to spread their views.</p>
<p>AngryDumbo, you are onto something, I think this divide is also a false one. A lot of what is considered to be socially unacceptable are also characteristics that often lead to poverty.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill in NC said:
“I’d say it’s clear that, along with everything else noted here, we can never again expect to prevail with a candidate that lacks extreme telegenic appeal as well as immense rhetorical ability.”
I’d go one step further:  the Republicans, right from the beginning, must have a plan to communicate their message to the masses for every single moment.  You can’t simply bemoan the fact that the Press is biased against your campaign, even if it is true. You have to aggressively get your message out through every possible medium, and compel the rest of the media to cover your campaign on your terms.
So you can’t catch a break in the Times/Post/Networks? Should that be a surprise to any Republican Presidential campaign? Only if you were asleep at the switch for the last 16 years!  No Republican Presidential Candidate is going to catch a break from Maureen Dowd in the six weeks prior to the election, so have a plan to outreach via blogs, talk radio, podcasts, regional newsmedia, et al.
But even if McCain/Palin had an aggressive messaging plan,  the actual message was garbled at best;  his heroism and selfless service are well established, but really, what did his campaign truly stand for, especially on domestic policy? He differentiated himself a bit after the third debate (thanks to Obama providing him an opening) but for the last two weeks he sounded like a crappy moderate democrat running against a great democrat during a democratic primary ( e.g.,  like Biden!).
At least it’s all over now, as I talk about &lt;a href=&quot;http://acreofindependence.com/2008/11/05/now-that-the-election-is-over/”&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill in NC said:<br />
“I’d say it’s clear that, along with everything else noted here, we can never again expect to prevail with a candidate that lacks extreme telegenic appeal as well as immense rhetorical ability.”<br />
I’d go one step further:  the Republicans, right from the beginning, must have a plan to communicate their message to the masses for every single moment.  You can’t simply bemoan the fact that the Press is biased against your campaign, even if it is true. You have to aggressively get your message out through every possible medium, and compel the rest of the media to cover your campaign on your terms.<br />
So you can’t catch a break in the Times/Post/Networks? Should that be a surprise to any Republican Presidential campaign? Only if you were asleep at the switch for the last 16 years!  No Republican Presidential Candidate is going to catch a break from Maureen Dowd in the six weeks prior to the election, so have a plan to outreach via blogs, talk radio, podcasts, regional newsmedia, et al.<br />
But even if McCain/Palin had an aggressive messaging plan,  the actual message was garbled at best;  his heroism and selfless service are well established, but really, what did his campaign truly stand for, especially on domestic policy? He differentiated himself a bit after the third debate (thanks to Obama providing him an opening) but for the last two weeks he sounded like a crappy moderate democrat running against a great democrat during a democratic primary ( e.g.,  like Biden!).<br />
At least it’s all over now, as I talk about <a href="http://acreofindependence.com/2008/11/05/now-that-the-election-is-over/”" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angry Dumbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Dumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who may have missed it, this was a funny post over at the Peoples Cube this Spring on the theme of out-democrating democrats.

http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1964&amp;start=0&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who may have missed it, this was a funny post over at the Peoples Cube this Spring on the theme of out-democrating democrats.</p>
<p><a href="http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1964&#038;start=0&#038;postdays=0&#038;postorder=asc&#038;highlight" rel="nofollow">http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1964&#038;start=0&#038;postdays=0&#038;postorder=asc&#038;highlight</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Dumbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Dumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe in the social/fiscal breakdown of conservatism.   

Is cutting funds to the head start program socially liberal or fiscally conservative?  On what basis does a fiscal conservative cut spending?  

The new independent is just the product of the ideological pendulum swinging back to liberal. 

In response,  conservatives need to rephrase traditional small government, free market principles, not abandon them.  Limited enumerated powers as defined in the Constitution remain the framework for smaller government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in the social/fiscal breakdown of conservatism.   </p>
<p>Is cutting funds to the head start program socially liberal or fiscally conservative?  On what basis does a fiscal conservative cut spending?  </p>
<p>The new independent is just the product of the ideological pendulum swinging back to liberal. </p>
<p>In response,  conservatives need to rephrase traditional small government, free market principles, not abandon them.  Limited enumerated powers as defined in the Constitution remain the framework for smaller government.</p>
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		<title>By: ketchikan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ketchikan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the MSM, (blue media), are getting hit in the stock market and circulation dept. But is this the kind of backlash that will change their beliefs and the way they promote the &quot;news&quot;? Or will they continue to believe so strongly that the next four years will just be a continuence of the past with lies, willful ignorance, stupidity or whatever passes for &quot;objective journalism?.

As has been said: &quot;follow the money.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the MSM, (blue media), are getting hit in the stock market and circulation dept. But is this the kind of backlash that will change their beliefs and the way they promote the &#8220;news&#8221;? Or will they continue to believe so strongly that the next four years will just be a continuence of the past with lies, willful ignorance, stupidity or whatever passes for &#8220;objective journalism?.</p>
<p>As has been said: &#8220;follow the money.&#8221;</p>
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