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		<title>By: veracious</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/06/thecirclecloses/#comment-16605</link>
		<dc:creator>veracious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reading Fox News statement about Chinese IP addresses hacking into to national treasury infomation at the World Bank (below).  Regardless, so much pride about how USA is so powerful that _nobody_ could seriously hurt it.  Nope, not: financial manipulation, domestic enemies, Islam, lawyers, congress, perversion, MSM, illegal immigration...  Perhaps Japan didn&#039;t have enough methods or surprise, to be able to seriously wound USA in 1941.  They signaled their discontent and only hit a naval base.  This is a single dimensional approach.

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The World Bank Group&#039;s computer network — one of the largest repositories of sensitive data about the economies of every nation — has been raided repeatedly by outsiders for more than a year, FOX News has learned.

It is still not known how much information was stolen. But sources inside the bank confirm that servers in the institution&#039;s highly-restricted treasury unit were deeply penetrated with spy software last April. Invaders also had full access to the rest of the bank&#039;s network for nearly a month in June and July.

In total, at least six major intrusions — two of them using the same group of IP addresses originating from China — have been detected at the World Bank since the summer of 2007, with the most recent breach occurring just last month.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reading Fox News statement about Chinese IP addresses hacking into to national treasury infomation at the World Bank (below).  Regardless, so much pride about how USA is so powerful that _nobody_ could seriously hurt it.  Nope, not: financial manipulation, domestic enemies, Islam, lawyers, congress, perversion, MSM, illegal immigration&#8230;  Perhaps Japan didn&#8217;t have enough methods or surprise, to be able to seriously wound USA in 1941.  They signaled their discontent and only hit a naval base.  This is a single dimensional approach.</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
The World Bank Group&#8217;s computer network — one of the largest repositories of sensitive data about the economies of every nation — has been raided repeatedly by outsiders for more than a year, FOX News has learned.</p>
<p>It is still not known how much information was stolen. But sources inside the bank confirm that servers in the institution&#8217;s highly-restricted treasury unit were deeply penetrated with spy software last April. Invaders also had full access to the rest of the bank&#8217;s network for nearly a month in June and July.</p>
<p>In total, at least six major intrusions — two of them using the same group of IP addresses originating from China — have been detected at the World Bank since the summer of 2007, with the most recent breach occurring just last month.<br />
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		<title>By: veracious</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/06/thecirclecloses/#comment-16143</link>
		<dc:creator>veracious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BobM,

Although the American arrival was of strategic import and helped decide the issue, the new tactics developed by _both_ sides  changing the war from static slaughters to maneuver and bypass.

Without these changes and the general German exhaustion, the American losses would have been staggering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BobM,</p>
<p>Although the American arrival was of strategic import and helped decide the issue, the new tactics developed by _both_ sides  changing the war from static slaughters to maneuver and bypass.</p>
<p>Without these changes and the general German exhaustion, the American losses would have been staggering.</p>
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		<title>By: Belmont Club &#187; The second debate</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/06/thecirclecloses/#comment-16094</link>
		<dc:creator>Belmont Club &#187; The second debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the problem, as I have written elsewhere, is that the bailout efforts don&#8217;t clearly signal that the bad old ways of doing business [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the problem, as I have written elsewhere, is that the bailout efforts don&#8217;t clearly signal that the bad old ways of doing business [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Murphy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/06/thecirclecloses/#comment-16047</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact with his military strength increasing rapidly, Pershing opposed the November Armistice saying that the German Army needed to be beaten on the battlefield or they would be back for more...
It only took 20 years or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact with his military strength increasing rapidly, Pershing opposed the November Armistice saying that the German Army needed to be beaten on the battlefield or they would be back for more&#8230;<br />
It only took 20 years or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Murphy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/06/thecirclecloses/#comment-16046</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wretchard
Actually the stalemate breakers on the Western Front in France in 1918 was the arrival in great numbers of the American Army under Blackjack Pershing and probably the innovative tactics introduced by the brilliant Australian Lt General John Monash, an engineer by trade and a Jew (which made him an outsider amongst the British officer class at the time).
Pershing&#039;s troops held more than 80 miles of the frontlines in 1918 and many other US Army divisions were fighting under French and Belgian Army command.
Quite simply, the rapidly increasing number of fresh US troops spelled the end for the Germans.
That and the fact that US industrial output in 1914 exceeded that of all the combatants on both sides combined.
The US would have swamped the Germans by mid 1919. The writing was on the wall, even for the pig headed Prussians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wretchard<br />
Actually the stalemate breakers on the Western Front in France in 1918 was the arrival in great numbers of the American Army under Blackjack Pershing and probably the innovative tactics introduced by the brilliant Australian Lt General John Monash, an engineer by trade and a Jew (which made him an outsider amongst the British officer class at the time).<br />
Pershing&#8217;s troops held more than 80 miles of the frontlines in 1918 and many other US Army divisions were fighting under French and Belgian Army command.<br />
Quite simply, the rapidly increasing number of fresh US troops spelled the end for the Germans.<br />
That and the fact that US industrial output in 1914 exceeded that of all the combatants on both sides combined.<br />
The US would have swamped the Germans by mid 1919. The writing was on the wall, even for the pig headed Prussians.</p>
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		<title>By: veracious</title>
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		<dc:creator>veracious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wretchard,

Excellect metaphor of new and supposedly whizzy economics (financial methods) to outdated warfare techniques.

I&#039;ve thought, since I was a young teen, that fractional reverve banking is a completely  immoral and unlawful practice.  Just as selling products with unbalanced measurements or weights would be.  It is nothing short of creating money out of thin air, earning both interest _and_ the principle for special enough to have this special priviledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wretchard,</p>
<p>Excellect metaphor of new and supposedly whizzy economics (financial methods) to outdated warfare techniques.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought, since I was a young teen, that fractional reverve banking is a completely  immoral and unlawful practice.  Just as selling products with unbalanced measurements or weights would be.  It is nothing short of creating money out of thin air, earning both interest _and_ the principle for special enough to have this special priviledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Konyok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konyok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This from the Guardian, via instapundit, on Iceland:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/05/iceland.creditcrunch

The Icelandic finance minister says that very soon the krona may not be accepted as currency ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This from the Guardian, via instapundit, on Iceland:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/05/iceland.creditcrunch" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/05/iceland.creditcrunch</a></p>
<p>The Icelandic finance minister says that very soon the krona may not be accepted as currency &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: slade</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/10/06/thecirclecloses/#comment-15947</link>
		<dc:creator>slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave -

I&#039;m outta my league, dumb as dirt, and desperately seeking a thought that might work.

Mark Haynes this morning said the markets are sort of simmering - like a jilted lover who hasn&#039;t decided what to do (that last part was mine).  But his point was that the &quot;information&quot; meter inherent in market movements was at zero.  The European factor, the pending demise of the Euro (gotta love the smell of hysteria in the morning), and of course the break-neck speed of the Continentals - nothing like a good financial dither to wipe that smirk off their faces as everyone scrambles to find a &quot;Treasury Secretary&quot;.  


Noise on CNBC that optimal &quot;buying opportunities&quot; are pending as Dow hovers around 9800 +/- 5% or 10%.  Also a lot of positive response to the Fed tinkering.

Truth is I have stopped paying (full) attention.  Too hard on my nerves so there is something to be said for lancing the boil.

The period from CRA in 1977 to F&amp;F accounting scandals in 2005 was sanguinary (I think that&#039;s a word).  Stuff happens.  We fix it and life goes on.  But the covert complicity in covering up the exposure of liabilities during the post-2005 time period is reprehensible. A wink here.  A nod there.  Pretty soon we&#039;re talking about real leadership.  But calls for criminal action I expect to produce very little because it was all legal.

The question of speed however is excellent.  I expect the response will include a gender gap ::))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave -</p>
<p>I&#8217;m outta my league, dumb as dirt, and desperately seeking a thought that might work.</p>
<p>Mark Haynes this morning said the markets are sort of simmering &#8211; like a jilted lover who hasn&#8217;t decided what to do (that last part was mine).  But his point was that the &#8220;information&#8221; meter inherent in market movements was at zero.  The European factor, the pending demise of the Euro (gotta love the smell of hysteria in the morning), and of course the break-neck speed of the Continentals &#8211; nothing like a good financial dither to wipe that smirk off their faces as everyone scrambles to find a &#8220;Treasury Secretary&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Noise on CNBC that optimal &#8220;buying opportunities&#8221; are pending as Dow hovers around 9800 +/- 5% or 10%.  Also a lot of positive response to the Fed tinkering.</p>
<p>Truth is I have stopped paying (full) attention.  Too hard on my nerves so there is something to be said for lancing the boil.</p>
<p>The period from CRA in 1977 to F&amp;F accounting scandals in 2005 was sanguinary (I think that&#8217;s a word).  Stuff happens.  We fix it and life goes on.  But the covert complicity in covering up the exposure of liabilities during the post-2005 time period is reprehensible. A wink here.  A nod there.  Pretty soon we&#8217;re talking about real leadership.  But calls for criminal action I expect to produce very little because it was all legal.</p>
<p>The question of speed however is excellent.  I expect the response will include a gender gap ::))</p>
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		<title>By: Konyok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konyok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua,

Actually, AM&#039;s Obama boosterism is the tell that they&#039;re a prankster.

A muslim Obama supporter would softpeddle the issue.

A bona fide jihadi would consider Obama to be an apostate. Taqiya can only take you so far, at some point you&#039;ve got to put your foot down, like cucumbers in the same basket with tomatoes ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua,</p>
<p>Actually, AM&#8217;s Obama boosterism is the tell that they&#8217;re a prankster.</p>
<p>A muslim Obama supporter would softpeddle the issue.</p>
<p>A bona fide jihadi would consider Obama to be an apostate. Taqiya can only take you so far, at some point you&#8217;ve got to put your foot down, like cucumbers in the same basket with tomatoes &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Slade:  Take two recessions and call me in the morning.


Just for the heck of it, what do you think of the following purgative?

Raise margin requirements to 70% to 100% and keep them there for about six months.  Deliberately crash the stock market so that it reaches its bottom right away rather than grinding downwards for 2 years or so.  After all, people are going to have to sell stocks in order to pay their debts.   Why don&#039;t we
the (self) annointed make that selling sooner rather than later?

And yes, might as well raise bond margins as well while we are at it. 

Result should be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth along with larger total liquidity and some high-yield securities as well.   

I&#039;m just speculating.  Would appreciate your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Slade:  Take two recessions and call me in the morning.</p>
<p>Just for the heck of it, what do you think of the following purgative?</p>
<p>Raise margin requirements to 70% to 100% and keep them there for about six months.  Deliberately crash the stock market so that it reaches its bottom right away rather than grinding downwards for 2 years or so.  After all, people are going to have to sell stocks in order to pay their debts.   Why don&#8217;t we<br />
the (self) annointed make that selling sooner rather than later?</p>
<p>And yes, might as well raise bond margins as well while we are at it. </p>
<p>Result should be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth along with larger total liquidity and some high-yield securities as well.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just speculating.  Would appreciate your thoughts.</p>
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