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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Fear not, till Birnam Wood do come to Dunsinane&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: marymcl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/07/fear-not-till-birnam-wood-do-come-to-dunsinane/#comment-3733</link>
		<dc:creator>marymcl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary sounds like Tony Soprano talking to Ralphie C. about the Jackie Jr. problem.

You go, baby. It&#039;s just business...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary sounds like Tony Soprano talking to Ralphie C. about the Jackie Jr. problem.</p>
<p>You go, baby. It&#8217;s just business&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Quite right.:)
But the symbolism schtick is still dreamworld stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Quite right.:)<br />
But the symbolism schtick is still dreamworld stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/07/fear-not-till-birnam-wood-do-come-to-dunsinane/#comment-3668</link>
		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denzel for Prez.  

Paris for VP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denzel for Prez.  </p>
<p>Paris for VP.</p>
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		<title>By: Tarnsman</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2008/08/07/fear-not-till-birnam-wood-do-come-to-dunsinane/#comment-3662</link>
		<dc:creator>Tarnsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, Bob.  Janet Reno was AG not SoS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, Bob.  Janet Reno was AG not SoS.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But &quot;Condi&quot; is no better at being Secretary of State than Janet Reno, just better looking.

Why do you need a gimmick, whether that be because someone is black or female.

Can we get out of this symbolism bullshit and deal with the essence of these people&#039;s records for chrissakes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But &#8220;Condi&#8221; is no better at being Secretary of State than Janet Reno, just better looking.</p>
<p>Why do you need a gimmick, whether that be because someone is black or female.</p>
<p>Can we get out of this symbolism bullshit and deal with the essence of these people&#8217;s records for chrissakes?</p>
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		<title>By: NahnCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>NahnCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>god, if we have to have a black person in the white house, can&#039;t it be denzel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god, if we have to have a black person in the white house, can&#8217;t it be denzel?</p>
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		<title>By: RW</title>
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		<dc:creator>RW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tarnsman @4.59 

I would luuuuuve to see Condi as VEEP; and probably she would become the next President. That would be a dream.

Some right people think she is unnacceptable, but she is at least not a stupid, vacuopus sap. She is her own man and knows the ropes of Washington and the world.

Maybe she could have Collin Powell as VEEP!&#039;

(Also not ideal but at least not socialist)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tarnsman @4.59 </p>
<p>I would luuuuuve to see Condi as VEEP; and probably she would become the next President. That would be a dream.</p>
<p>Some right people think she is unnacceptable, but she is at least not a stupid, vacuopus sap. She is her own man and knows the ropes of Washington and the world.</p>
<p>Maybe she could have Collin Powell as VEEP!&#8217;</p>
<p>(Also not ideal but at least not socialist)</p>
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		<title>By: RW</title>
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		<dc:creator>RW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To several posters here: yes, Hillary is completely ruthless; it is a mark of a good statesman.

Can she swing it, though? There is the rub. If she deposed the Ubermessiah, there would be 16 year old girls throwing themselves under busses; mushy prime-tinme for the Democrat conference. Therefore, &quot;If it were done when ’tis done, then ’twere well
It were done quickly.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To several posters here: yes, Hillary is completely ruthless; it is a mark of a good statesman.</p>
<p>Can she swing it, though? There is the rub. If she deposed the Ubermessiah, there would be 16 year old girls throwing themselves under busses; mushy prime-tinme for the Democrat conference. Therefore, &#8220;If it were done when ’tis done, then ’twere well<br />
It were done quickly.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RW</title>
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		<dc:creator>RW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is just no way these two egos could co-habit Airforce One.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is just no way these two egos could co-habit Airforce One.</p>
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		<title>By: hdgreene</title>
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		<dc:creator>hdgreene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the Democrats taking it from Sen. Obama because African Americans will leave the Party -- not just stay home but vote for Sen. McCain. Also, they would look like disorganized rabble at their convention and who would want them running the country? In which case they lose the Presidency and perhaps the Congress as well. I think it would require Hillary to take 80 percent of the White Female vote to win, since black females won&#039;t be voting for her. I don&#039;t see it.

No.  I think Hillary wants Barack to lose in November and lose big (put him out of the running for 2012) even while she campaigns for him (and her voters vote for McCain).  Then she has a clear shot at 2012.

Obama has to deal. If he wins, she gets a Supreme Court nomination. If he loses, he pledges support for her run in 2012.  That&#039;s for the minimum cooperation at the convention and during the campaign.  He will have to give her something along those lines or watch the Clintons put a hole in his hull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the Democrats taking it from Sen. Obama because African Americans will leave the Party &#8212; not just stay home but vote for Sen. McCain. Also, they would look like disorganized rabble at their convention and who would want them running the country? In which case they lose the Presidency and perhaps the Congress as well. I think it would require Hillary to take 80 percent of the White Female vote to win, since black females won&#8217;t be voting for her. I don&#8217;t see it.</p>
<p>No.  I think Hillary wants Barack to lose in November and lose big (put him out of the running for 2012) even while she campaigns for him (and her voters vote for McCain).  Then she has a clear shot at 2012.</p>
<p>Obama has to deal. If he wins, she gets a Supreme Court nomination. If he loses, he pledges support for her run in 2012.  That&#8217;s for the minimum cooperation at the convention and during the campaign.  He will have to give her something along those lines or watch the Clintons put a hole in his hull.</p>
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