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By Phyllis Chesler

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Whores Turn Him Down, Battered Wives Walk Out, Western Journalists Harass Him

The other day, a pediatric nurse in New York City refused to dance with Mbarek Lafrem, a Moroccan man, in a New York City bar. What did Lafrem do? He followed her into the women’s bathroom where he attempted to rape and savagely beat her. The woman was found unconscious and is now hospitalized. She required 50 stitches to close just one of her lacerations; she also suffered a broken eye socket, a broken nose, skull fractures, and a busted jaw.

The media pointedly refrain from telling us that he is a Muslim, but with a name like “Mbarek” or ‘Mubarak,” what religion are we talking about? Lafrem now claims that she started it, that the nurse “berated him when he barged into the women’s restroom shortly after she’d rebuffed him on the dance floor.”

To a certain kind of man, from a certain kind of culture, women are always supposed to say yes, and when they say no they are provokers and deserve a beating. More: If the woman is a naked-faced infidel and dances with strange men in a public setting—she is, by definition, a prostitute and is not entitled to say no. Saying no is a “provocation” and deserves a beating. Or worse.

Now, let’s shuffle off to Buffalo, where Muzzammil ”Mo” Hassan—remember him?–is about to stand trial for beheading his wife, Aasiya Zubair Hassan. Guess what this monster’s claiming? That he’s the victim, that he was a “battered husband.” Guess what this crafty self-promoter has been doing from his jail cell? Writing letters to the media in his mother’s name in which he paints himself as the “abused” spouse. Mo’s letters also refer to an “epidemic” of battered men.

Thank God for journalist Sandra Tan of the Buffalo News who, today, reveals the extent of Mo’s depravity. According to a 21-page statement that Aasiya wrote to the court, she “painstakingly chronicled her years of torment.” In addition to numerous beatings and threats, Mo “made (Aasiya) sign memos authorizing him to punish her if she talked with the police and Child Protective Services and threatened her with the loss of her children whenever she tried to break free.” In truth, Mo used his size and weight against the much smaller Aasiya; on separate occasions he literally sat on her, imprisoned her, punched her repeatedly, drawing blood, dragged her down the driveway, tried to run her off the road in his car, and refused to allow her to seek medical treatment for her injuries.

In addition, Mo wrote emails to Aasiya’s court appointed psychologist in Aasiya’s name and from her computer account. As Aasiya, he denies being battered. “What nonsense. Complete hogwash. I have always been a strong woman and a high achiever.” Mo also drafted letters as if the psychologist had written them which he states that “Aasiya does not have the personality of an abused wife.”

Mo’s attorney, Frank M. Bogulski, has claimed in open court that his client was a “battered spouse,” and he promised a “revolutionary defense.”

A third and final example.

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39 Comments, 39 Threads, 4 Trackbacks

  1. 1. Marcia Pappas

    Phyllis, Thank you for writing about this. It is totally absurd. What next??

  2. 2. erik of dale

    You are absolutely correct, it is all over us, particularly on college campus where brain dead student are being indoctrinated by Islamic professors. Organizations such as CAIR and others are taking every advantage our constitution offers to further their cause and deconstruct our American system of government and with the not so subtle Muslim lover in the WH it’s not going to take much to turn our country over. We have to fight back, push back, every time and every place the Muslims try to offend our country. Better still would be to simply cut off all Muslim immigration from any Muslim country to the United States. Any Muslim caught in the U.S. without proper identification would be considered an enemy combatant and sent to GITMO. Muslims accused and convicted of acts of terrorism, treachery or traitorous activity would be executed. The country has to wake up to the fact that there no moderate Muslims. None.

  3. Those accused of crimes, and their lawyers, are always likely to point fingers elsewhere. Let’s hope that our legal system will find guilty people guilty. At the same time, we have to respect our tradition of innocence until proven guilty.
    Would one want immigration laws that exclude people like Nonie Darwish from coming to America? Laws should be drafted so that they shouldn’t have unwanted side effects.

  4. 4. Barb

    They use our courts to mock us as they use our own foolish political correctness. They are bullies who use anything and everything at their disposal. It is okay to lie and deceive us as we are kafir.
    George, these are not ordinary criminals, and they do not play by our rules or our laws.

  5. 5. judy, nyc

    a permit to carry would take care of many of these situations.

    these putrid bags of crap have the support of an american president in the wh who supports them, never speaks out, and hides when there is controversy. the corrupt media (especially now that the arabs have insinuated themselves into our largest mainstream media)show themselves to be the skanks and cockroaches of supplicants to money.
    he’s a moslem. a rabid crazy one. impeach him.
    he is the reason moslems know they can get away with murder, blood libels, intimidation.
    he’s stupid. and, he’s dangerous.

    PHYLLIS SPEAKING: Ah, you need to become less vulgar, less insulting, more thoughtful in order to continue appearing here.

  6. 6. Norman Simms

    Phyllis

    These terrorists in the heart of western civilization now, along with their defenders and excusers, are either:

    1. Naive and/or stupid.
    2. Insane to the point of psychotic.
    3. Evil, criminal and machiavellian.
    4. Completely fanatical.

    All are dangerous.
    All need to be subjected to rigid controls. Punished where necessary.
    Incarcerated or deported.

  7. 7. Morton Doodslag

    Phyllis Chesler muddies our understanding of Jihad by constantly portraying it as a feminist issue or a Jewish persecution issue — this is very misguided and obtuse. BTW — she often retails the notion that it will be the women of Islam who finally turn the tide of Islamic Jihad — but aren’t they the hand that rocks the cradle? Without blaming the beheaded woman in any way — it’s also true that she played along for YEARS while her husband ran a TV station purporting to be a “moderate Muslim bridge” to America. Where are the protests by thousand of abused Muslim wives in the streets of America protesting the horrors of Islam???? They are utterly absent. You can’t just toss their utter and complete absence off as male intimidation — women are PART of Islamic Jihad — and while all Muslims can on some level be considered victims of the humanity robbing nightmare of Islam — they are not victims in any sense that Phyllis Chesler and her ilk like to pretend — women in Islam are not yearning to be free of the shackles of that abominable “religion”, they are partners in the promulgation of Islam. While they may have an inferior roll to play in the unfolding terror, they are not now, and never will be our allies in the destruction of Islamic terror, Sharia fascism, or the intolerance of Islam.

    PHYLLIS CHESLER SPEAKING: And you, Sir, will not be allowed to continue denigrating and purposefully misunderstanding my work. I have allowed you space but I am getting annoyed with the same Johnny One-Note tune that you play. If you cannot become more balanced, if whatever you think I write offends you so–well, don’t bother reading this blog.

  8. 8. ERS

    When I was living in the Middle East conducting research on dishonor killings, I grew accustomed to weak, if any, reporting about these crimes and their adjudication. The perpetrator and the victim were never named. There were few status reports about any criminal investigations. The victim received no proper obituary, let alone a respectful burial. It made me yearn for my own country’s free press and judicial system.

    Well, now that I am home, I’ve noticed that political correctness and fear of violent consequences are stifling professional reporting of the kinds of crimes you’ve just written about, Phyllis. Most of us reading this know that Aasiya’s beheading was a dishonor killing, yet few in the media will call it that (or even bother to report it). And, with the exception of Marcia at NOW’s New York chapter, who was practically skewered for saying so, I’ve not heard representatives of any of the leading women’s rights organizations call these crimes what they are and firmly denounce them.

    Good God, what have we turned into? A nation of pansies? If a person’s head has been violently separated from the body because of someone’s delicate sense of honor, why can’t we call it what it is? Why are we letting the bada$$es gain the upper hand? It only takes a few to ruin it for the many.

    Ah, but I’m preaching to the choir here.

    As George noted, there’s still hope that all will come out as it should when these cases have worked their way through the American justice system. Inshallah.

    Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
    “Reclaiming Honor in Jordan”

  9. 9. Lou Santacroce

    Muslim Capitol Day in Tallahasee? The mind reels!

    As for the cartoonist who is targeted for death because he drew muhammid on the head of a dog….I would have drawn him on the head of a PIG!

  10. 10. Shoshana Rubin

    To #7, MD–you have a very strange grip of the truth that Phyllis has written about. You apparently choose to believe that her articles are not true because a Jewish, pro-Israel woman wrote them.

    Do you feel the same way about a brutally molested child raped by a priest whom when grown up, is too embarrassed and humiliated to tell anyone until decades have passed? Perhaps you think this grown up child is ‘shading’ the truth along with thousands of other grown-up children?

    Phyllis is 100% correct! This is only the tip of a long, bloody civil war. GWBush was wrong when he stated that ‘as long as we’re over there, they won’t get crazy here.’

  11. 11. Supreme Allied Commander

    when honest men do nothing, that is the crime we see here..

    ..those perpetrators do it because they can …because we let them.

    welcome to the world of Mad Max. welcome to all that is bad in the middle east.

  12. 12. MartinOwens

    This pathology has been visible for some time.
    The late Shiva Naipaul ( brother of Nobel Prize winner V.S. Naipaul) described the Islamic ferment as the rage of small men coming to themselves and finding out that the world no longer needed them. Militant and violent Islam, he put it, was their way of getting even with the world.

    And well, isn’t he right? To be a Jihadi Shahid death warrior is to have status and a reputation, no matter how futile the fight.
    To be part of a modern industrial society puts all these would-be Geronimos and Attilas on the spot. They cannot play Great Conqueror any more, and have no skills or knowledge to command a good salary in the 21st century. If peace comes to the Middle East, they will be digging ditches, mowing lawns, just one more pair of hands.

    So it’s back to the barricades and the drama, mama. That’s why American policy in the Middle East is futile. They don’t WANT peace! They want somebody else from outside to underwrite a cheap victory.

  13. 13. Andy

    “….but because, said the officer, “your presence is offensive to this group. We must tell you to leave to keep the peace.”
    What was he Basij or een American officer?

  14. 14. HellenoChristian

    (Mistreating Women) this is not about Terrorism. This is normal to them.

    1. They have a very Misogynist Social System/Organization, where Men are always Right, and (better) Women are always wrong. This is their Official and Unofficial Status (Rebellious Women got severely punished – from prompt Divorce, which is a Shame for her and her Family, or severe Battering, or Killing -);

    2. They are Professional Liars. I witnessed with my Eyes a Man belying about his attempt to harrash a Woman -. Men listening to him were believing him and claiming that THE WOMAN was a Liar – SIC – and that SHE tried and lured him – DOUBLE SIC -. My Opinion? a) They are Perfect (extremely Dishonest) Actors; b) they (Men) protect one another and their Status (see 1.).

    3. Harrashed Women can almost not escape from that Submission’s Trap, because both their Family Members and their in Law Members accept and protect the Status (see 1.): rebellious (= refusing to get mistreated) Daughters in Law got harshly criticized by Mothers in Law, and Wives by Husbands, and Females by Males. There is no Dignitous/Human Way out: (Islam) it is a Hell.

    **

    WESTERN AND NON-ISLAMIC WOMEN! KEEP FAR FROM THOSE MEN!

    Do they look at you? Do they smile at you? Do they say you hallo?

    Beware! Never answer them kindly! Otherwise they will consider you a Prey of theirs [they (already) consider you a Bitch and a Sexual Object to be (ab)used of].

    Within them: there is no Morality (despite what they claim, according to their alleged “Religion of Peace”) and there is no Respect for you (Woman, Westerner, Non-islamic, Non-arab – no Matter how old are you -).

    Remember they are Perfect Liars, Actors, Double-speakers, Double-faced, and that they will eventually show NO MERCY for you (no Matter how kind, nice and lovely you are): this has been proven Right too many Times, to be considered Wrong.

    **

    Why are there (Islamic) Women who protect that Status? Because there is no Way out for them: either they submit, or they get harshlier mistreated –

    though I understand those Women, I DO NOT JUSTIFY them (this Sado-masochist Game is too much dangerous for Humanity as a whole).

  15. 15. DP111

    How to stop this madness?

    Got it. Lets import more Muslims into the West, where they will not only assimilate but teach us all the wonderful joys of DIVERSITY.

  16. 16. Robert

    The real infamy is that the court permitted the jury to consider provocation as a defense to a brutal and nearly deadly beating. What was the judge thinking about. First, there is no evidence to support the theory: if a woman rejects as this woman did a man’s sexual advances, her conduct, as a matter of law, does not constitute harassment.

    Then finally, even if for the sake of argument she did harass him her harassment is not a defense, as a matter of law, to a savage beating.

    The Stones of Rome rise up in mutiny!

  17. 17. M.G.

    Read “Listen, Little Man ” by Wilhelm Reich and you’ll understand why this is happening!

  18. 18. Alex Benskyh

    I’m very disappointed in you, Doc. All cultures are unique and equally valuable and yet you seem to be saying that a culture that promotes the abuse of women is not equal to a culture that does not. Obviously you need some re-education.

    Nor should you blame the western media for what you see as timorousness. Covering actual Muslim actions fully might cause the Muslims to feel offended and emanations from the penumbra of the First Amendment guarantee the right of certain, select groups to be free of being offended.

    And when the guy barged into the women’s rest room she berated him for, well, being a man barging into the women’s rest room. What else could you expect him to do other than savagely beat her within an inch of her life? That’s his unique and valuable culture.

  19. 19. Stephen Baraban

    Dr. Chesler/ I hope you will be willing at some point veru soon to make a public declaration that you do not approve of the vicious lies of haters like “judy, nyc”. I understand that bloggers may have various valid stances regarding how important it is to respond to commenters, but it seems invalid not to attack extremists on one’s “own side” when a large part of what one is saying is that reasonable Muslims need to draw the line against extremists.

  20. 20. Stephen Baraban

    Sorry I was so ad feminam in what I just posted; I do not want to break the clearly stated rules of websites that I comment upon. But I did feel quite provoked by the constant ad hominem attacks of the person I mentioned upon Obama (by her, the Prez is a Muslim who supports Muslim terrorism). I think my point stands, that anti-Muslim extremism needs its own extremism like it needs a hole in the head.

  21. 21. RSJ

    Notice that before their “sudden” violent outbursts, these were all “upstanding” men of their community, including a presumably respected Professor (who is teaching impressionable students, no less). These aren’t radicals living in a hole in Afghanistan. These are the “Moderate Muslims”. That doesn’t bring much confidence to the idea that we can all just live peacefully together.

  22. 22. Tony B

    It is sad, so sad that we have turned a blind eye on the stupidity of this country.. If a black male had been the perpetrator, this would have been LOUDLY stated by the media.. but a muslim, we have to show deference. I am saddened to tears for this woman, she did nothing wrong and didnt deserve this. I hate Islam, because it shows no respect for others. I cannot go to a muslim country and dishonour their women, because I would be beatened or kiled.. I must respect their laws, however muslims generally want to do what they want in MY country. I would say this, had this woman been a relative of mine, prison would be merciful to compare to what I would do to this pig. I want the USA to stop following the lead of Obama who has NO respect for his people, but panders to the Arab world. If muslims cannot obey our laws, they should leave. I have been to Arab countries and I know and have seen that women are property for men, but not in the USA. I dont care about your koran or your religion, our country was built on christian ideals and so there is enough room in the Arab world for every muslim that wants to leave. If you cannot respect or accept the laws of MY country, you should leave, take your Jihad home, take your religion and hate home, because Islam has brought NOTHING but grief, death, pain and terror to MY country.

  23. 23. Julia NYC

    Many Muslim men on the subway often try to stare down a woman on the subway. They just stare and stare and stare. Apparently we are supposed to meekly gaze at the floor. If we stare back this is some sort of insolence. It takes all of my willpower to not give these guys the finger and say fuck off. But I don’t want to be murdered on the subway. So I play the game. Read my book and fume inside, that I can’t believe they are here. And that life has come to this.

  24. 24. Michael D.

    I cannot believe this. To think people somewhere use something as religion to justify the horrible treatment of women, the “mother of life” to say. Just because they are of a different sex gives people NO RIGHT to mistreat them, beat or even behead them. My god can you people be any more inhuman? I treat my girlfriend, and all other women with respect and kindness because they are human. And besides, i find you muslim men lucky to have been born a man, seeing as how we are all conceived as women before the sex chromosomes decide to change or not.

    I believe something ‘radical’ needs to be done aboutthese radicals. (not a threat, just a statement of opinion)

  25. 25. Tanstaafl JW

    This is the behavior of sociopaths.

  26. 26. Steely Irony

    TO: Julia NYC (and Stephen Baraban)

    Julia, my wife and daughters have all recounted similar experiences on public transportation. All choose to stare them down. My eldest daughter, who has a military background, also sports a rather lovely (and usually exposed) tattoo which reads “American Infidel”. She likes to “flash” her tattoo. Hers are hilarious – and on occasion harrowing – experiences. Suffice to say that your garden-variety Muslim may be a “bully” but he is also a “coward”. Ideologies of hate are great for men without cojones to hide behind. And men who fear women as much as Muslim males do DO NOT HAVE THE COJONES of a hummingbird.

  27. 27. Laura

    “The police finally asked Campbell and Kaufman—not Alhalabi– to leave. Not because they’d “done anything wrong” but because, said the officer, “your presence is offensive to this group. We must tell you to leave to keep the peace.” And, the local media (WTXL-TV) which promised to cover what had happened, backed down. They interviewed Campbell and Kaufman but, according to Campbell, after promising to run the interview, never did so”.
    …………………………………
    Another example of western emasculated males.

  28. 28. Anonymous

    Self-centered entitled *ssholes who should be punished severely for their behavior… “Rodney King” not only as a verb but a sentence upon conviction (plus jail time) would get through to them in the manner “Grow up, d*ckhead!” would do for other people.

  29. 29. HellenoChristian

    20. and 21. I think comment 12. answers to your naive Statement. Appearently Barack Hussein does not support so called Terrorism,

    but if you took the disturb to read Naipaul’s book about Indonesia (praised Country by your partially – or fully – Islamic President),

    you’ll understand how Extremist is that Country actually getting,

    WHILE your (dis)honest President is portraying it as a Tolerant Non-extremist (Islamic) Country.

    Watch out: Islamic Extremists from Indonesia already landed in the USA (at least Iowa),

    where they teach Islamism to Students, hiding their Lessons under the Banner of “Mental Training Exercises – Human Resources’ Education”

    (Title purposely chosen in order to trick American Liberal Public: under such a Banner, no one would think that Students/People – there – get islamically indoctrinated/radicalized).

    Ignoring such a Collusion means ignoring Ties between – partially or fully – Islamic President and Terrorism.

  30. 30. HellenoChristian

    24. + 27. I fully understand you and I experience the same Thing. This imported Situation is a huge Loss for our Civilization, not to mention the Loss in Human Rights of Women’s Field.

    As I was a Child I was taught to smile to Everyone, and be kind to Everyone – Today the imported Thuggery requires that we keep UNsmiling and that we hide any kind of Human Warmth and Kindness.

    [Going to their Countries is the same: UNsimlingness and UNkindness are a Must for a Woman - otherwise she'll be considered a Bitch .... This is Sexual Apartheid, and an Oppressive Violation of Human Liberty.]

  31. 31. Julia NYC

    Steely Irony:

    Wow, your daughter sounds like a major badass! Good for her. “American Infidel” tattoo! Love it! That is freakin’ hilarious, and most inpirational. Well, I’ll do what I can, unfortunately I do not have the fighting skills to back up any sort of physical confrontation I may inadvertantly start on the subway. I’m quite small with terrible vision. Although I have been known to bring many a strapping man to tears with my acerbic wit, and biting sarcasm. Thanks for your comment. And tell your wife and daughters to keep up the good work!

  32. 32. Charles Stevens

    Thank you again Ms. Chesler for writing about these examples of jihad we have allowed to metastasize in this country.

    It amazes me that being “offensive” has now become a crime in our once free society. The illogic is hideously astounding:

    - It assumes to know (by telepathy?) the feelings of those ostensibly being offended, i.e. they are not somehow misrepresenting themselves.
    - It makes a supposed attack on internal feelings equivalent to a physical external attack.
    - It assumes that internal feelings are not any kind of personal responsibility of the person having such feelings.
    - It invokes prior restraint, in which some act is assumed without proof to cause a later illegal act.

    We thus have an unholy alliance of two separate factors, progressive jurisprudence deliberately unable to confront Islamic jihad. Concerning at least the latter, there must be policies we can fight for, that will start to turn the tide. As a first step, we should stop all immigration by Muslims. What would you recommend as to further specific policies?

  33. 33. Eva

    I would like to know what we can do as well. We need practical, realistic tactics to protect ourselves. In this small town there are women who won’t go to the post office on Saturdays because that is where and when muslim men (that is with the teeniest, tiniest “m” by the way) hang out and stare us down. I have to go there daily for work. Fortunatley it is early in the a.m. so less to deal with but I still run into them occasionally. I refuse to be intimidated.
    A while back a somali woman was murdered here by a somali man who apparently had some kind of interest in her but she refused him. Very little coverage and not one mention that it was most likely an honor killing. Until the MSM gets on board and starts telling the truth we have a hard battle ahead of us.

  34. 34. simeon

    “What I do know is that it is much more dangerous to publish a cartoon of Mohammed than to slice apart a Christian with a machete.” I just read this quote on World Tribune’s website and couldn’t agree more. I believe it bespeaks of the absurdity we are living for a simple reason. People do not want to believe that the bottom line to all of this is spiritual warfare. This is why we are also seeing such a rise in antisemitism throughout the world and a crazed hatred of all that Israel represents. If we don’t start realizing that the only way to combat this evil is not with more guns, bombs and planes but with prayer, we will surely lose this war against islam. For historical proof of this, research how prayer was necessary to win the Battle of Lepanto or the siege of Vienna in 1456. Since then, we, in the West, have become spiritual wimps.

  35. 35. xman

    Simeon, prayer didn’t save the inhabitants of Constantinople in 1453 or Famagusta in 1570 from being butchered at will by Muslim savages. You can’t live on prayers alone when faced with those who seek to murder and oppress you. You need weapons and the will to fight back and win, and the determination to tell the truth without regard to the feelings of the enemy. Vienna was saved by brave men and women using the weaponry of the day in 1529 and 1683. Likewise at Lepanto in 1571, cannon and musket decided that sea battle. Malta in 1565. The list goes on. We were on the defensive for almost 1,000 years between 711 and 1683. Evil can only be combatted by fighting it at every level. And lets not forget what edmund Burke said “All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing”, and prayer alone without action is effectively doing nothing.

  36. 36. Alicia

    The decision the police made to tell the reporters to leave was based on the realities of crowd control, in my opinion. That is, the police may have known that the crowd favored the bullies, and it could be dangerous to escalate.

    If a city decides it is going to take a hard line with threats from crowds who will support assaults of opponents or reporters, then it will have to devote the money to pay for the police officers required to confront the crowd. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think event sponsors normally pay for police security and the number of police depends on the size of the expected (well-behaved) crowd. If it’s actually the city that pays, again it would be the size of a well-behaved crowd that would determine the number of police.

    Citizens are going to have to take the lead with the First Amendment. Then the mayor, the city council, and finally the police chief will follow. But you cannot expect a couple of police officers who are at the mercy of the political tides to risk their careers unless the town they serve will support them.

  37. 37. HellenoChristian

    34. Hurting Feelings should be criminalized; Psychological Violence must be criminalized –

    but it must be clearified what does such a Violence means, and what do Feelings/Psychology mean.

    Islam self harshly offends Others, is racist – against Non-arabs – and discriminating – against Non-islamics and then against Women – (not to mention Paedophile). Islam self hurts One’s Psychology and Psychism: it is pure Indoctrination, Individual Freedom-cide, Human Qualities-cide; it is Sadic and Masochist.

    Respecting its “Feelings” and “Psychology”, it really is like respecting those of Totalitarians, Practitioners of black Magic, Dictators, Terrorists, Criminals (Tricking, Looting, Raping Others is allowed in Islam), ….

    **

    It urges to define what does Feelings and Psychology means -

    if Islam is about Feelings and Psychology, which have to be respected, then (Past/Historical and Present/Contemporary) Criminality does not exist anymore.

    I feel (…) that there would be Something severely sick in such a Decision.

  38. 38. simeon

    xman: you prove my point completely by believing that we can win this by continuing the ongoing war with, as of old, the “weaponry of the day.” Then we should nuke mecca and medina and be done with it. You state that “evil can only be combated by fighting it at every level.” I agree but suggest you are leaving out the most important level: the Highest. As you rightly pointed out, we have truly been at war with islam for 1,400 years, and yes, brave men and women did fight the necessary battles and still do today [may God bless them and their families for their sacrifices]. But we have not won the victory because people think we can win this war without the assistance of the One True God. That is the problem. Instead, our society spends a lot of time insulting Him. As Israel discovered in its history, when they did not follow God, He removed His Hand of Protection. Therefore, just as Israel, the West will not win this without first getting on its knees as John Capistrano did before the Battle of Vienna. You also talk about only the human element in the Lepanto battle, but fail to acknowledge the strong wind that subjugated most of the moslem fleet which had outnumbered the Christians. In fact, in Venice, many paintings depict the miraculous intervention of Heaven in saving the day. Even the moslems believed that God had favored the Christians. And why? Have you studied the personal prayerful actions of the victors involved? You also fail to point out that the people of Constantinople refused to be allied with Rome in 1453 despite the emperor having secured a treaty to help the Byzantines in their fight against islam. Their saying at the time was “better the sultan’s turban than the pope’s tiara.” The Lord gave them what they wanted.

  39. 39. tanstaafl JW

    The barbarians are not at the gates, they are within the city.

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