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		<title>By: Steynicle 405nd &#171; Free Canuckistan!</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2010/01/22/on-trial-for-telling-the-truth-political-correctness-vs-free-speech/#comment-21477</link>
		<dc:creator>Steynicle 405nd &#171; Free Canuckistan!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CHESLER&#8211; On Trial for Telling the Truth: Free Speech vs Political Correctness: Wilders and Levant [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Persevere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wilders and Levant Today, You, Me, Tomorrow</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2010/01/22/on-trial-for-telling-the-truth-political-correctness-vs-free-speech/#comment-21390</link>
		<dc:creator>Persevere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wilders and Levant Today, You, Me, Tomorrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As we all know, the bravest man in Europe is on trial for telling the truth. This matter is obscene, and, according to Bruce Bawer, “surreal,” in part because Holland prides itself on its tolerance and commitment to free speech. Ah, but the Dutch do not mean “truth speech” because in the picturesque land of tulips and windmills, not all of Orwell’s pigs are equal. Truth is relative, subjective, ever-changing. Thus, if something is true but that truth offends the most reactionary Muslims — then it is not protected speech; in fact, it is criminalized. for more click here  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As we all know, the bravest man in Europe is on trial for telling the truth. This matter is obscene, and, according to Bruce Bawer, “surreal,” in part because Holland prides itself on its tolerance and commitment to free speech. Ah, but the Dutch do not mean “truth speech” because in the picturesque land of tulips and windmills, not all of Orwell’s pigs are equal. Truth is relative, subjective, ever-changing. Thus, if something is true but that truth offends the most reactionary Muslims — then it is not protected speech; in fact, it is criminalized. for more click here  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joeblough</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeblough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The silence of the American media on the subject of Wilders trial is unforgivable, literally. I will never forgive them for this.

Not that they had much credibility with me at this point anyway, but they still had a chance to get some back.

That&#039;s over now.

They are tools and nothing but.

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I will note that I usually make exception for the people over at Fox, most of whom are honest, professional, competent and decent.

That said, even Fox has been silent on this subject.

And I suspect that it may be the sizable stack of Arab money they&#039;ve taken that is the reason.

It is beyond miserable.

It&#039;s down to us now.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;If you are reading this here pass the word on Wilders to everyone you know!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

There&#039;s no reason to expect Phyllis to carry the burden for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The silence of the American media on the subject of Wilders trial is unforgivable, literally. I will never forgive them for this.</p>
<p>Not that they had much credibility with me at this point anyway, but they still had a chance to get some back.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s over now.</p>
<p>They are tools and nothing but.</p>
<p>===========</p>
<p>I will note that I usually make exception for the people over at Fox, most of whom are honest, professional, competent and decent.</p>
<p>That said, even Fox has been silent on this subject.</p>
<p>And I suspect that it may be the sizable stack of Arab money they&#8217;ve taken that is the reason.</p>
<p>It is beyond miserable.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s down to us now.</p>
<p><b><i>If you are reading this here pass the word on Wilders to everyone you know!</i></b></p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason to expect Phyllis to carry the burden for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: joeblough</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeblough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One cannot always deal in a civilized way with people who are dedicated to exhausting every possible means to destroy you.

The western elites are likely to create a situation in which the Awans of this world will be subjected to popular justice, which tends to be quite rough.

Either we get our elites under control, or we will have to deal with the half-anarchy/half-police-state conditions that are likely to result.

And we will have nobody but ourselves to blame, as it is clear that our elites WILL NOT initiate appropriate action on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One cannot always deal in a civilized way with people who are dedicated to exhausting every possible means to destroy you.</p>
<p>The western elites are likely to create a situation in which the Awans of this world will be subjected to popular justice, which tends to be quite rough.</p>
<p>Either we get our elites under control, or we will have to deal with the half-anarchy/half-police-state conditions that are likely to result.</p>
<p>And we will have nobody but ourselves to blame, as it is clear that our elites WILL NOT initiate appropriate action on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: MiamaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiamaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>62. HellenoChristian:

1) [Islam is Politics, not “a Religion”, the Way we Westerners are used to understand it (more like Ethics or Spirituality).]

Please, allow me to disagree. Islam is 100% a religion. Religions can be classified in 2 main groups:

a) Fixed: Usually depend on one scripture (Bible, Quoran), or a few (Torah, Talmud).

b) Inner call, experience-based: Uses the scriptures as guidelines for inner change and as a recipe to obtain these experiences. (Baghavad Gita, Vedas, 108 major Upanishads, etc).

The problem with Islam, is not whether it is religion, no, but that it is a religion that allows for evil.

Do people think that what is known about the so-called prophet Mohammad is untrue? 

Can we compare Jesus the Christ, the Prince of Peace, with Mohammad? In deference to Matthew, then I am Mickey Mouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62. HellenoChristian:</p>
<p>1) [Islam is Politics, not “a Religion”, the Way we Westerners are used to understand it (more like Ethics or Spirituality).]</p>
<p>Please, allow me to disagree. Islam is 100% a religion. Religions can be classified in 2 main groups:</p>
<p>a) Fixed: Usually depend on one scripture (Bible, Quoran), or a few (Torah, Talmud).</p>
<p>b) Inner call, experience-based: Uses the scriptures as guidelines for inner change and as a recipe to obtain these experiences. (Baghavad Gita, Vedas, 108 major Upanishads, etc).</p>
<p>The problem with Islam, is not whether it is religion, no, but that it is a religion that allows for evil.</p>
<p>Do people think that what is known about the so-called prophet Mohammad is untrue? </p>
<p>Can we compare Jesus the Christ, the Prince of Peace, with Mohammad? In deference to Matthew, then I am Mickey Mouse.</p>
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		<title>By: MiamaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiamaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction above: Al-Quds mosque in Hamburg (not Cairo)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction above: Al-Quds mosque in Hamburg (not Cairo)</p>
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		<title>By: MiamaMan</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2010/01/22/on-trial-for-telling-the-truth-political-correctness-vs-free-speech/#comment-21206</link>
		<dc:creator>MiamaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59. Matthew:

1)[If KSM or OBL are devout, committed religious men, then I’m donald duck.]

No, these 2 are not devout, but still are religiously motivated. Of course, you can always find a political motive behind everything these groups do. 

Mohammed Atta a thug? Hardly. High marks as a student, an architect, studied English in American University in Cairo, continued to study in Germany. Then comes the Al-Quds mosque in Cairo. It was this mosque and religiosity what hardened him and made possible his fanatical religious convictions, a man without these qualities could not have pulled 9/11. To believe all this at the end to be politically motivated is a serious mistake, one for which we will pay dearly. 

2) [Religion is quite obviously used as a prop by these nuts]

Religion here is not a prop, but the centerpiece of their behavior. Not these people are nutter than many of us on this side of the fence. They are religious zealots, propped by the Quoran and its tenets. 

You could say that, for the Arabs leaders of the cold war, Nasser, Sadat, and the last of them, Saddam Hussein, it was a prop, but not for the new Ayatollah Khomeini generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59. Matthew:</p>
<p>1)[If KSM or OBL are devout, committed religious men, then I’m donald duck.]</p>
<p>No, these 2 are not devout, but still are religiously motivated. Of course, you can always find a political motive behind everything these groups do. </p>
<p>Mohammed Atta a thug? Hardly. High marks as a student, an architect, studied English in American University in Cairo, continued to study in Germany. Then comes the Al-Quds mosque in Cairo. It was this mosque and religiosity what hardened him and made possible his fanatical religious convictions, a man without these qualities could not have pulled 9/11. To believe all this at the end to be politically motivated is a serious mistake, one for which we will pay dearly. </p>
<p>2) [Religion is quite obviously used as a prop by these nuts]</p>
<p>Religion here is not a prop, but the centerpiece of their behavior. Not these people are nutter than many of us on this side of the fence. They are religious zealots, propped by the Quoran and its tenets. </p>
<p>You could say that, for the Arabs leaders of the cold war, Nasser, Sadat, and the last of them, Saddam Hussein, it was a prop, but not for the new Ayatollah Khomeini generation.</p>
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		<title>By: HellenoChristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>HellenoChristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59. +: are you jocking or don&#039;t you really understand what did MiamaMan mean by &quot;living in Hiding&quot;? 

For Wafa Sultan it is the same, this doesn&#039;t mean that she does Nothing to still carrying on her Message, despite the harsh ISLAMIC/-IST Threats. 

Same goes for Wilders. Ayaan Hirsi Ali left The Netherland right because there she couldn&#039;t live as safely as she can in The United States. 

The Fact is that Islamic/-ist people and CRIMINALS can go Anywhere, say Whatever they want, and they are still free (thanks to Western Policy/Democracy), while Critics of Islam constantly risk their own Lives to uncover Islamic/-ist Ideology and its Mafia (- up to now - protected in the Name of &quot;Freedom of Religion&quot;). 

Islam is Politics, not &quot;a Religion&quot;, the Way we Westerners are used to understand it (more like Ethics or Spirituality).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59. +: are you jocking or don&#8217;t you really understand what did MiamaMan mean by &#8220;living in Hiding&#8221;? </p>
<p>For Wafa Sultan it is the same, this doesn&#8217;t mean that she does Nothing to still carrying on her Message, despite the harsh ISLAMIC/-IST Threats. </p>
<p>Same goes for Wilders. Ayaan Hirsi Ali left The Netherland right because there she couldn&#8217;t live as safely as she can in The United States. </p>
<p>The Fact is that Islamic/-ist people and CRIMINALS can go Anywhere, say Whatever they want, and they are still free (thanks to Western Policy/Democracy), while Critics of Islam constantly risk their own Lives to uncover Islamic/-ist Ideology and its Mafia (- up to now &#8211; protected in the Name of &#8220;Freedom of Religion&#8221;). </p>
<p>Islam is Politics, not &#8220;a Religion&#8221;, the Way we Westerners are used to understand it (more like Ethics or Spirituality).</p>
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		<title>By: HellenoChristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>HellenoChristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59.: 60. is right, and above all Immigrants like the Criminal who murdered Theo Van Gogh (supported by his bloodthirsty Community as a whole) have to respect the Country they immigrate in and its Laws and its Civilization, otherwise they have to remain in the Hole they come from. 

Note: the above mentioned Criminal was living on the Shoultern of the State he immigrated in, thanks to its Social Welfares&#039; Policy - and this is the Way he thanked the Community he joined and which helped him! 

&quot;Submission&quot; was a Movie against Violence on Women, heavenly ordered in Islam, and it is the Cause why Theo was murdered and Ayaan Hirsi Ali was Death-threatened. 

How many &quot;radical Priests or Gurus&quot; are there, who preach Hate and Violence against Others? Almost none: how many Imams are there, who do so? Many, and they have whole Communities following them, and most of their Members do not even report their &quot;Guides&quot; to Justice. Of course, they follow their bloodthirsty Shari&#039;a, which recognizes Rights just to Islam and to Islamic/-ist people, and denies them to Everything and Everyone else [Internationally, check Islamic/-ist &quot;Cairo Declaration&quot;, compared to Others&#039; &quot;Universal Declaration of Human Rights&quot;.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59.: 60. is right, and above all Immigrants like the Criminal who murdered Theo Van Gogh (supported by his bloodthirsty Community as a whole) have to respect the Country they immigrate in and its Laws and its Civilization, otherwise they have to remain in the Hole they come from. </p>
<p>Note: the above mentioned Criminal was living on the Shoultern of the State he immigrated in, thanks to its Social Welfares&#8217; Policy &#8211; and this is the Way he thanked the Community he joined and which helped him! </p>
<p>&#8220;Submission&#8221; was a Movie against Violence on Women, heavenly ordered in Islam, and it is the Cause why Theo was murdered and Ayaan Hirsi Ali was Death-threatened. </p>
<p>How many &#8220;radical Priests or Gurus&#8221; are there, who preach Hate and Violence against Others? Almost none: how many Imams are there, who do so? Many, and they have whole Communities following them, and most of their Members do not even report their &#8220;Guides&#8221; to Justice. Of course, they follow their bloodthirsty Shari&#8217;a, which recognizes Rights just to Islam and to Islamic/-ist people, and denies them to Everything and Everyone else [Internationally, check Islamic/-ist "Cairo Declaration", compared to Others' "Universal Declaration of Human Rights".]</p>
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		<title>By: logos1</title>
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		<dc:creator>logos1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew 59:

&quot;Religion is quite obviously used as a prop by these nuts – just as other religions have been used as a prop for violence in the past.&quot;

In Islam religion and politics are inseparable. This is what sets it apart from every other religion. Islamic doctrine is clear: the entire world must be brought into &quot;submission&quot; to the Koran and Sharia law, and Sharia law is all that is allowed and all that is necessary. It is enforced by the caliph. Islam imagines the entire world as one united caliphate ruled by Sharia alone. Failure to &quot;submit&quot; to this makes one worthy of death. No other religion is like this or has ever been like this. This is why Islam is irredeemable and must be utterly abolished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew 59:</p>
<p>&#8220;Religion is quite obviously used as a prop by these nuts – just as other religions have been used as a prop for violence in the past.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Islam religion and politics are inseparable. This is what sets it apart from every other religion. Islamic doctrine is clear: the entire world must be brought into &#8220;submission&#8221; to the Koran and Sharia law, and Sharia law is all that is allowed and all that is necessary. It is enforced by the caliph. Islam imagines the entire world as one united caliphate ruled by Sharia alone. Failure to &#8220;submit&#8221; to this makes one worthy of death. No other religion is like this or has ever been like this. This is why Islam is irredeemable and must be utterly abolished.</p>
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