Comments on: “I Hope the West Does Not Give In”: An Interview with Seyran Ates

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Wed, 02 Jun 2010 05:58:43 +0000

[...] of presumably talking to boys. I have also written about a great Turkish feminist hero, my friend Seyran Ates, here; Ates was shot for her work among Turkish immigrant girls and women in Berlin. Her [...]

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THE SULTAN’S WEEKEND ROUNDUP | RUTHFULLY YOURS — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:51:40 +0000

[...] “I Hope the West Does Not Give In”: An Interview with Seyran Ates In 1984, as a 21 year-old law student, Seyran was working at a Women’s Center in Berlin where mainly Turkish and Kurdish girls and women came for counseling. Seyran was sitting with her client, a fifteen year old battered Turkish Muslim girl. All around them, other women were giving and receiving advice, shelter, legal services. A quiet man quietly entered. Politely, but firmly, one of the women said: “Sir, there are no men allowed here.” [...]

By: HellenoChristian

HellenoChristian — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:57:02 +0000

From Israel (Jewish State) comes a comment saying that Swiss vote against the building of minarets is the worst thing happening after Holocaust [even if the banning of Islamification's bayonets could be a Jews-friendly vote and even if some Islamic Clerics which call for another Holocaust against Jews, therefore there is little need for Jews to fight for Islamification of Europe, to defame Swiss vote against Islamic bayonets, to compare Jews situation during worldwide hitlerian Nazism with Islamic bayonets' situation during Swiss Democracy in Switzerland];

from Islamo-Turkey (Seyran’s native Country) comes a call to all (Islamo-)Turkish people living in Switzerland, suggesting them to move all their bank accounts away from Switzerland and to Turkey [even if many of them benefited of Swiss Socialwelfare in the past or still do so] – I am aware of the fact that Russians have very good Relations with alleged moderate Islamic world/Countries, and I wonder if this Islamo-Turkish statement isn’t influenced by Russian anti Western (see: neverending Cold War) feeling (or agenda), considered that there already is a very Islamo-Turkish anti Western Culture agenda.

Or: is that all happening according to an hidden Eurabian plan (damaged by the 60% Swiss’ vote against Islamic bayonets)? Or has it to do with Bilderberg Club’s decisions (and the Swiss’ vote destabilizes them)?

What can/must Feminists (which hope the West never gives in) do against (or for!) the anti 60% Swiss citizens’ vote plot?

By: Adina Kutnicki, Israel

Adina Kutnicki, Israel — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:16:59 +0000

The truth shall set us free….

NEVER should truth seekers be intimidated by the jackals at our throats. In fact, the MORE fear we show, the MORE they come after everything which resembles civilized society.

Kudos to this brave woman and all those who follow in her footsteps!!

As we say in Judaism, from strength to strength….

By: Dr. Shalit

Dr. Shalit — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:45:19 +0000

Without a doubt the future of what is Presently the Islamic World depends largely on the future of its women. She Who is Needed is Muslima Lysistrada. -S-

By: Lynn

Lynn — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:07:48 +0000

I do not trust Ms. Ates who speaks as if one can be a Muslim and at the same time deny the words and deeds of the founder of Islam and the Allah that is worshiped by the people at the mosques.

Denying that women are less value than men their testimony worth half, denying that women are the main occupiers of Hell, denying that woman should be used like a field or domestic animal, denying that women can be struck, denying that woman will be sexual slaves in paradise would be denying the words of Mohammad and Allah. That would be a denial of Islam.

Allah and Mohammad also commands that Muslims will fight the Jews until the end of time where Allah will cause the rocks and trees to cry out “Here is a Jew!”, “Here is a Jew!”, “Come and kill the Jew!” To deny that command would be to deny Mohammad, Allah and Islam.

I don’t trust her words because she talks double speak against and for at the same time, therefore I don’t trust her.

By: Toronto Girl

Toronto Girl — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:21:35 +0000

If a woman is truly a feminist, she can not logically be a practicing Moslem. It is contradictory. How any woman would willing choose to adhere to this radical and misogynist political philosophy, masquerading as a religion, is beyond me. I say this because having lived and travelled in the Middle East, I saw first-hand how women are treated. A “moderate” Moslem former colleague used to joke at the office that when his pregnant wife complained too much, all he had to do was repeat “I divorce you” several times and he would be free to marry more than one woman. (except me) What I found to be even scarier that his comments, was the level of laughter coming from the sexist morons that I worked with.

By: John "birther" Samford

John "birther" Samford — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:02:24 +0000

Rights of any sort belong to those strong enough to fight for and hold them.
Blacks in America are not slaves because about 600,000 White Males died for their freedom. Blacks were not strong enough to win it themselves. Blacks ARE strong enough to keep what those 600,00 white males died to give them.
Females have rights because of the males that fought alongside them to gain those rights. They keep those rights because they have the strength to.
It’s a sad fact that in the real world, right makes right.
Civilized people pretend that moral value outweighs a strong arm. The fact is it doesn’t.
Nazi Germany did not stop murdering Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and undermench because they suddenly had a moment of moral clarity. The Allies bombed their cities to rubble, destroyed their industry and killed enough Germans to go in and shut down the death camps.
Without the might that made right, those death camps would still be working.

The Islamic world isn’t going to recognize Human Rights just because it is the ‘right’ thing to do. In their mind it isn’t the right thing to do, that if Human Rights was needed, Allah would have said something about it to Ol’ Mo the goat roper.

Muslim have NO CHANCE of beating the West in a fight. So eventually the West will get tired of fooling around with Islam and either exterminate all Muslims or force them to convert to some other religion. Which is about the same thing. Not for a while yet. Another couple of centuries.
In the meantime, all we need from the Islamic crescent is OIL. What with Brazil slowly coming on line, and the Shale OIL available in America and China, it will be possible by 2040 or so to tell the Muslims to pound sand and embargo the entire religion. No contact either way. Let them eat their OIL.

By: John "birther" Samford

John "birther" Samford — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:37:57 +0000

“Allowing gays to marry is an expansion of liberty. Besides, gay marriage doesn’t hurt a soul in the world.”

Classic propaganda. A fact followed by the Big Lie.
It’s nice to see a professional at work.

Gay marriage would legitimize what is deviant, anti-social behavior. Homosexuality is a CHOICE, NOT a civil right. Arson is closer to homosexuality then race, religion, gender or color. If homosexuals have the right to screw like rabid weasels, then don’t arsonists have the right to burn down verything in sight? Both actions are based on ‘it feels good so do it’ theory of life. Hedonism is the technical term.
I would consider the millions that have died from AIDs/HIV to have been harmed.
Then there is the yet to be explored connection between serial murders and homosexuality. Or would you have people believe that it is a co-ink-see-dink that 9 out of 10 serial killers are homosexual? How about the young boys that are seduced then raped by older men? Normal people would consider them as having been harmed.
We won’t even get into the social effects of having employees promoted on their willingness to perform casual sex in a broom closet instead of merit. A classic example of that would be FNMA. One homosexual in Human Resources and in a year or two, the bathrooms are full of 4 legged employees, who aren’t doing the work they are being paid for.
Business do not survive when the profit motive is replaced by getting your nut.

By: Tristan Yates

Tristan Yates — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:30:45 +0000

In Islam, marriage is 13th century, like purchasing a wife. You can have up to four and divorce them at will. You can get a short-term marriage to sleep with a prostitute and then divorce them. The women has to ask permission from her husband about everything – its not like he can write a check or sign a contract. She can be jailed and beaten for being out without her husbands permission. So given how negative marriage is for Islamic women, that likely helps explain her view – its not exactly I Love Lucy.

Anyway great to see people standing up for what’s right – rare but inspiring. I think many people are scared to speak out for a variety of reasons.