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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Slack Now — Our Efforts Are Working &#124; The American Jingoist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Slack Now — Our Efforts Are Working &#124; The American Jingoist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the successes, to keep up our courage, to prevent discouragement. And to answer this need, in a recent article at PajamasMedia.com, Phyllis Chesler listed some of the recent successes in the free [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Knopfler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Knopfler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You CANADA, yes Gov.t has to stay on top of this mischeiveous behavior. The immigrant Muslim and Homegrown needs to understand that western culture is a face to face, eye contact nation, not just culture or religion, but a Nation where women have equal rights, and are not here for abuse. Stop giving extra considerations for Islamic religious rituals, practices, and stop special treatment to schools-madrassas,Mosques where historically the extremists emerged from. Religious Leaders watched carefully, time bomb before Canadians arm themselves like Americans are doing right Now. Thank You, I love Canada, keep Canada loveable!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You CANADA, yes Gov.t has to stay on top of this mischeiveous behavior. The immigrant Muslim and Homegrown needs to understand that western culture is a face to face, eye contact nation, not just culture or religion, but a Nation where women have equal rights, and are not here for abuse. Stop giving extra considerations for Islamic religious rituals, practices, and stop special treatment to schools-madrassas,Mosques where historically the extremists emerged from. Religious Leaders watched carefully, time bomb before Canadians arm themselves like Americans are doing right Now. Thank You, I love Canada, keep Canada loveable!.</p>
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		<title>By: Camel Ammo &#124; Nedbank Debt Consolidation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camel Ammo &#124; Nedbank Debt Consolidation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chesler Chronicles Â» Canada to Immigrants: No Tolerance for âHonor &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mot</title>
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		<dc:creator>mot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Winston Churchill quote;

&quot;How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Winston Churchill quote;</p>
<p>&#8220;How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property &#8211; either as a child, a wife, or a concubine &#8211; must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got an idea.  Distribute Louisville Sluggers or firearms to all immigrant women and girls.  Problem solved.

Hell, pass them out to all women and girls, period.  Although we&#039;ll probably end up using them on one another if I&#039;m any guess.  :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got an idea.  Distribute Louisville Sluggers or firearms to all immigrant women and girls.  Problem solved.</p>
<p>Hell, pass them out to all women and girls, period.  Although we&#8217;ll probably end up using them on one another if I&#8217;m any guess.  <img src='http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul -Indiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul -Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a real parallel between Muhammed and Obama.  Muhammed was illiterate and the Koran was what someone else wrote for him.  Obama has someone else write his speeches and he just reads them on his teleprompter.  In both cases what we hear has been planted by someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a real parallel between Muhammed and Obama.  Muhammed was illiterate and the Koran was what someone else wrote for him.  Obama has someone else write his speeches and he just reads them on his teleprompter.  In both cases what we hear has been planted by someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Chesler: Some western countries wising up about immigrant barbarism &#171; Refugee Resettlement Watch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chesler: Some western countries wising up about immigrant barbarism &#171; Refugee Resettlement Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Canada: Citizenship Guide Rejects &#8220;Honor Killings,&#8221; Female Genital Mutiliation, and Gender-Based Violence :: Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canada: Citizenship Guide Rejects &#8220;Honor Killings,&#8221; Female Genital Mutiliation, and Gender-Based Violence :: Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; Canada to Immigrants: No Tolerance for &#8220;Honor&#8221; Killing &#8211; by Phyllis Chesler  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: muslimpoxbyebye</title>
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		<dc:creator>muslimpoxbyebye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bravo canada bravo....

PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS LOCK....THANK YOU ...
WHEN I WRITE THIS I&#039;M SPEAKING FOR THE REST OF THE PLANET THAT IS NOT MUSLIM AND NEVER WILL BE . WE READ WITH REAL SADNESS IN OUR HEARTS EVERYDAY ABOUT MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS IN SMALL NUMBERS. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE DAY WHEN THEY START HITTING THE MILLION FIGURE ON A REGULAR DAILY BASIS. WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THEM REACH THOSE DAILY TARGETS? SHALL WE GIVE THEM MORE AMMO OR MORE MONEY ?...SHALL WE PRINT MORE KORANS AND KHOMEINI&#039;S GREEN BOOK IN ARABIC AND IN ENGLISH AND WHATEVER LANGUAGE THEY PREFER JUST SO THAT THEY KILL EACH OTHER MORE AND MORE ...WHEN WILL THESE DAYDREAMS OF THE REST OF THE PLANET THAT WANTS TO LIVE IN PEACE ON A MUSLIM FREE PLANET COME TO BE REAL? WHEN WILL WE READ THE GOOD NEWS THAT MUSLIMS HAVE WIPED OUT THEMSELVES IN THEIR SWEET BLOODLUST AND ALL THE ARABS ARE GONE TOO ... WHEN WILL IRAN BOMB THE REST OF THE MIDDLE EAST SO THAT IT CAN BASK IN THE AFTERGLOW OF THE 12TH MORON THAT THEY&#039;RE ALL WAITING FOR ?
OH TO HEAR THE ELUSIVE GOOD NEWS ON A DAILY BASIS .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bravo canada bravo&#8230;.</p>
<p>PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS LOCK&#8230;.THANK YOU &#8230;<br />
WHEN I WRITE THIS I&#8217;M SPEAKING FOR THE REST OF THE PLANET THAT IS NOT MUSLIM AND NEVER WILL BE . WE READ WITH REAL SADNESS IN OUR HEARTS EVERYDAY ABOUT MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS IN SMALL NUMBERS. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE DAY WHEN THEY START HITTING THE MILLION FIGURE ON A REGULAR DAILY BASIS. WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THEM REACH THOSE DAILY TARGETS? SHALL WE GIVE THEM MORE AMMO OR MORE MONEY ?&#8230;SHALL WE PRINT MORE KORANS AND KHOMEINI&#8217;S GREEN BOOK IN ARABIC AND IN ENGLISH AND WHATEVER LANGUAGE THEY PREFER JUST SO THAT THEY KILL EACH OTHER MORE AND MORE &#8230;WHEN WILL THESE DAYDREAMS OF THE REST OF THE PLANET THAT WANTS TO LIVE IN PEACE ON A MUSLIM FREE PLANET COME TO BE REAL? WHEN WILL WE READ THE GOOD NEWS THAT MUSLIMS HAVE WIPED OUT THEMSELVES IN THEIR SWEET BLOODLUST AND ALL THE ARABS ARE GONE TOO &#8230; WHEN WILL IRAN BOMB THE REST OF THE MIDDLE EAST SO THAT IT CAN BASK IN THE AFTERGLOW OF THE 12TH MORON THAT THEY&#8217;RE ALL WAITING FOR ?<br />
OH TO HEAR THE ELUSIVE GOOD NEWS ON A DAILY BASIS .</p>
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		<title>By: HellenoChristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>HellenoChristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>41. Steveb/Colorado: &quot;it has been written at that time&quot; ... Do you realize that Koran was written on VII century? What about Old Testament? Do you know there also is a New Testament? Written far after the Old one, but far before Koran. Now: Muhammad was totally aware of Old and New Testament; he also had the honor to know about other Cultures and Religions, Indian and Chinese. He was a merchant (business man) and a traveler. 

Now I ask you: possible that after all that, the only thing he could produce is a Koran filled with hatered toward others, so mentally restricted, so filled with inconsistencies (for instance: Allah is the most compassionate - but he encourages violence against others; a &quot;forcibly believer&quot; mind will eventually go &quot;tilt&quot;. And this is actually what happens with/to Islamic - or Islamist, at your choice - people), and the only thing he could force on others hasn&#039;t been &quot;more open mindness&quot; but rather &quot;mental closeness&quot;, where the only option was (and still be) submitting to his Koran and himself (his example - read ahadith and sirah -), otherwise you had been (brutally) killed. 

Don&#039;t forget that this book and this person is said to be a neverending example: it has institutionalized rapes and murder, looting and oppression, ... totally against - for instance - the Revolution occurred around 600 years before, in the Middle East (read New Testament). 

Tell me how is that contextualizable at &quot;his time&quot;, together with other holy stories (which are far ancienter and really written in another social context! I mean: during 600 years and more there are so many thing happening and so many steps forward to be done! But Muhammad is an example of Regression, of Involution. And not just a practical level: at psychological/psychiatrical level, too). 

NOT TO FORGET KHADIJA WAS A MANAGER, AND A RICH WOMAN, WHILE MUHAMMAD WAS HER EMPLOYEE.

Suddenly, after her death, and maybe after paedophile marriage with Aysha, on Koran appears a verse stating that women&#039;s value is a half of that of men? 

Dear, the more I contextualize - as you say -, the more I understand Muhammad was the most dishonest person of his time ... or ever! [The Culture he stepped from forbad marriage - sexual relations - between men and stepdaughters: Muhammad, fallen in love with his adopted son&#039;s wife, changed this rule. He wanted to make sex with his stepdaughter, and ... how casually ... Allah sent him a koranic verse allowing him to divorce the female from her husband, and marry her to himself. Let&#039;s have sex! Despite Muhammad already had a wife - and other wives -!].

Let&#039;s contextualize Islam: the more we analyze it, under every point of view, the more it looks for what it is - PURE SICKNESS!

OFF TOPIC at MiamaMan: we talked about honor killings within Hinduism; I think killings there are related to Dowary, which women have to pay to men. Woman - as usual ... - is seen as a problem by her family: she is a cost, a high cost! Therefore she - as usual - becomes the object of violent thoughts and feelings - at first -, and eventually of violent actions. [I think the main issue here is &quot;women&#039;s consideration and condition&quot;, and &quot;women&#039;s self-esteem&quot; ....]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>41. Steveb/Colorado: &#8220;it has been written at that time&#8221; &#8230; Do you realize that Koran was written on VII century? What about Old Testament? Do you know there also is a New Testament? Written far after the Old one, but far before Koran. Now: Muhammad was totally aware of Old and New Testament; he also had the honor to know about other Cultures and Religions, Indian and Chinese. He was a merchant (business man) and a traveler. </p>
<p>Now I ask you: possible that after all that, the only thing he could produce is a Koran filled with hatered toward others, so mentally restricted, so filled with inconsistencies (for instance: Allah is the most compassionate &#8211; but he encourages violence against others; a &#8220;forcibly believer&#8221; mind will eventually go &#8220;tilt&#8221;. And this is actually what happens with/to Islamic &#8211; or Islamist, at your choice &#8211; people), and the only thing he could force on others hasn&#8217;t been &#8220;more open mindness&#8221; but rather &#8220;mental closeness&#8221;, where the only option was (and still be) submitting to his Koran and himself (his example &#8211; read ahadith and sirah -), otherwise you had been (brutally) killed. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that this book and this person is said to be a neverending example: it has institutionalized rapes and murder, looting and oppression, &#8230; totally against &#8211; for instance &#8211; the Revolution occurred around 600 years before, in the Middle East (read New Testament). </p>
<p>Tell me how is that contextualizable at &#8220;his time&#8221;, together with other holy stories (which are far ancienter and really written in another social context! I mean: during 600 years and more there are so many thing happening and so many steps forward to be done! But Muhammad is an example of Regression, of Involution. And not just a practical level: at psychological/psychiatrical level, too). </p>
<p>NOT TO FORGET KHADIJA WAS A MANAGER, AND A RICH WOMAN, WHILE MUHAMMAD WAS HER EMPLOYEE.</p>
<p>Suddenly, after her death, and maybe after paedophile marriage with Aysha, on Koran appears a verse stating that women&#8217;s value is a half of that of men? </p>
<p>Dear, the more I contextualize &#8211; as you say -, the more I understand Muhammad was the most dishonest person of his time &#8230; or ever! [The Culture he stepped from forbad marriage - sexual relations - between men and stepdaughters: Muhammad, fallen in love with his adopted son's wife, changed this rule. He wanted to make sex with his stepdaughter, and ... how casually ... Allah sent him a koranic verse allowing him to divorce the female from her husband, and marry her to himself. Let's have sex! Despite Muhammad already had a wife - and other wives -!].</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s contextualize Islam: the more we analyze it, under every point of view, the more it looks for what it is &#8211; PURE SICKNESS!</p>
<p>OFF TOPIC at MiamaMan: we talked about honor killings within Hinduism; I think killings there are related to Dowary, which women have to pay to men. Woman &#8211; as usual &#8230; &#8211; is seen as a problem by her family: she is a cost, a high cost! Therefore she &#8211; as usual &#8211; becomes the object of violent thoughts and feelings &#8211; at first -, and eventually of violent actions. [I think the main issue here is "women's consideration and condition", and "women's self-esteem" ....]</p>
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