Both sets of cases highlighted the fact that these men saw nothing wrong with kidnapping and attacking young western women because “the girl asked for it”. The favourite retort being the way the girl was dressed gave them permission to abuse her body. Actually, in both cases it can be argued that these rapes were hate crimes, but “shh, do not tell the press that Muslims indulge in hate crimes against Western women” because that would spoil the meme of Muslims being the victim.

Anyway in both sets of cases the rapists were found guilty and given long sentences in prison.

Not all Lebanese Muslims or Pakistani Muslims behave in this way. Also, men of European and British origin have been found guilty of rape, it is just that those rapes are not hate crimes. As an example, the Anita Cobby case was perpetrated by men who were not Muslim. It was a vicious rape and murder, but it was not a hate crime as in it was not racist. It was an anti-woman crime.

Thanks. On Indian gurus, I was referring to those who come to the West for personal gains.

India is, indeed, the spiritual motor of the world. The Rg Veda the oldest and more profound scripture of mankind, still to unveil layers of wisdom.

Buddhism is without a doubt a Hindu faith, its goal an impersonal Nirvana, similar to Advaita Vedanta, which goal is the personal Brahman.

Muhammad’s religion, Islam, was a combination of great wisdom with hallucinations of the worst kind, inspired by evil forces.

About the Mother, when she lived under someone’s shadow was only a temporary expedience to advance or help the companion. She was way superior to all men that crossed her life, but for Sri Aurobindo, of whom she was an equal, as Aurobindo himself often repeated.

From the previously heteogeneous areas of Norwawy, I found this article:

” . . . 16 of the 17 aggravated rapes and rape attempts in Stavanger (Norway) in the past two years were committed by men of non-Western background. Of the 18 men involved, only one was ethnic Norwegian. The violent rapes included six ‘taxi rapes’ [ed: these caused the police to advise women not to get into taxis alone].

. . .

[Quoting a high ranking police official]

“When a lightly dressed, intoxicated woman gets in alone into a taxi, the starting point is that she’s already sinned. A Muslim woman can’t do that. Those who attacked and raped women in the street thought that they were within their rights. They saw an intoxicated woman without an escort. She’s then considered fair game in some Muslim communities. And by their own perception, the men think that women have no value as witnesses in a criminal case,” says Thorsen. . . ”

I believe this statistic of the vast majority of rapes being committed by muslim immigrants is repeated in other areas of Europe, as I’ve seen similar statistics from islamic enclaves in other countries as well (Sweden comes to mind). Of course, its somewhat deceptive to just look at rapes involving “western” women. Such women do not live in submission to islamic law, and therefore are not protected by the social compact of islamic law. I think one of the more interesting statistics I’ve come across are prison statistics from Pakistan. For some time, the vast majority of imprisoned women were those who, having laid a charge of rape, were unable to provide the requisite witnesses. Sadly, once having admitted to “unlawful sex” in the course of asserting the rape charge, they found THEMSELVES imprisoned, rather than the rapist. . . . Given the extreme legal risks and obstacles to conviction – as well as the dire social consequences for a muslima steeped in the brutality and dupilcity of islamic honor culture – it is astounding that any muslima anywhere in the islamic world would be fool enough to lay a charge of rape . . . Better to retreat to the safety of your house and you hijab and your gender aparteid ( just like Sheik Hilali in Oz suggests), since the law won’t protect you anyway.

http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2009/11/norway-intoxicated-woman-on-her-own.html

HOWEVER, the RATE of ABUSE/HONOR KILLINGS and DEATH of Muslim Women by the Hand of their OWN FAMILY MEMBERS, TOTALLY out-weighs the statistics of ANY civilized country. To Quote YOU ” You idiot.”

The rate of RAPE is low among Muslims in America simply because Americans do not VALUE Rape/degridation of woman as Islam does!! AND these poor women DON’T REPORT IT you “idiot” because they are so afraid of their family, KILLING THEM, in an HONOR killing. Which the savage MUSLIMS do ALL over the world!

What a Happy man you must be! You get to legally KILL any woman in the NAME of ISLAM! UNLIKE Christianity, who CONDEMNS killing.

Those Priests you so gleefully condemn?

They are NOT Christians!!! You may call yourself anything…an American (just like the lovely Allah-lover at Fort Hood who had NO problem killing 13 people in the name of Allah!) OR a Muslim, or a Christian… Doesn’t MAKE YOU ONE!!

You follow the tenants of Islam, and you rightfully kill un-believers. Especially those pesty Jews!

You follow Christ, and you go to the Cross.

Totally different.

I’ve worked with a lovely, kind Muslim man and a Zoastran. BOTH, from India. And both, kind and unassuming. They are welcome in any society. That’s the BEAUTY of America!

Americans WANT to accept any decent person. We do not care from where they came. But we do care about their character.

About fake Gurus and so on, I must say I like very much Jiddu Krishnamurti insightful Insight (willing to put it that way): his way of reasoning correspond to the my nowadays way of reasoning [in the past I could already enjoy the Wisedom of Authors like the one we mentioned in our Comments, and others - which are anyway still "affecting" my thoughts, my views, my life].

Thank you for your views about D.P., and about The Mother: I personally doubt I would think you’re “off your rockers” – there are other women which accomplished great “things”. Let’s remember: “the Sun” (…) in Shintoism is associated to a female deity/power (this says me a lot); yogini of Tantrism appearently accomplished a lot too; then we have other women (family name starting with B.) which accomplished things; …. I mean: I won’t be surprised A WOMAN ACCOMPLISHING A LOT (I am actually surprised every time women live at men’s shadow – but this is what’s at most happening -).

We were talking about Islam(ism) though: about women, we have that claim about Aysha being “the mother of believers”, and when it comes to her being raped [*] by a far older man, it is said that to be unavoidable, in order to turn her into a brilliant figure of Sunnism. HERE (AND NOT JUST HERE) IS THE/A TRICK WHICH HAS TO BE EXPOSED ….

[*] A Yemeni lawyer self stated that paedophile marriages are nothing else but rapes. I agree.

I HELLENICALLY WISH YOU AND US ALL: TRUTH, GOOD, AND BEAUTY.

[I am very interested in what you say about occult Circles: I just wonder why some people belonging to them praise Barack Hussein as the “new enlightened man” and praises Muhammad?]

I smell Deepak Chopra here. I respect his opinions, but am neither a fan nor an admirer of new paradigms that are never explained. He is also a liberal of the first water. I seat on the political spectrum surely to the left of Hitler, a little to the right of Genghis Khan.

What he knows about the occult? Don’t make me laugh please, my friend. Indian wisdom???? In general, Indian Gurus have abused so many people in the West that their credibility is about level with a car salesman (a little below a Realtor).

The occult circle I mentioned is of the first order. It comes straight from a certain Polish Jew who renamed himself Max Theon (Highest God), traveled extensively and settled in a little town in Algeria called Tlemcen. THE MOTHER OF THE SRI AUROBINDO ASHRAM, Mirra Alfassa (by race Sephardi Jew) stayed in Tlemcen a few months and rapidly surpassed his then mentor. I don’t doubt for a second that she had the highest occult power and knowledge of the 20th century, for if I were to tell you here some of the thing she accomplished, surely you and other will think I am off my rockers.

I have a webpage dedicated solely to the Mother and these topics, but I prefer not to provide the net address here.

I wonder if you’re an academician, or a journalist?

The Lou Dobbs debate was interesting. I thought the Nation writer withdrew — almost acknowledging, though his silence, that he was cognizant that “his side” had pushed a false interpretation too far. I’m sorry Dobbs is leaving CNN. This “journalism as graduate school, complete with ideological policing” needs to be confronted from within.

MiamaMan: I totally agree with the things you explained. I think the same and I more and more see the similitarities between Hitlerian Nazism and Muhammadan Islam, and people’s reaction to it. In the West many people perfectly know how dreadful Islam is, but they publically shut up, and at the opposite they try to appease that (D)evil, because they completely fear it sadist reaction in case of criticism. Same went with Hitlerian Nazism.

The Love that mentally sick people experience for their (hateful) Leader, it again is something which ties Hitlerian Nazism to Muhammedan Islam.

I am very interested in what you say about occult Circles: I just wonder why some people belonging to them praise Barack Hussein as the “new elightened man” and praises Muhammad? [I wouldn't quote names but a very well known psychiatrist and expert in aesotherical matters publically praised Obama and his Islamic root: the personality is an American citizen, with Indian and Hindu roots. I mean: a free man, living in a free Country, carrying Hindu/Indian wisedom who ignore Islamic (D)evil? Even occult and spiritual Circles suffer of IGNORANCE or ... evil possession? This scares/worries me a lot].

Based on this fact(s) I think that Islamic people (human Beings) are ALL mentally sick (Islamist) if they FREEWILLINGLY adhere to Islam, and this makes them not different than Nazist fellows of Hitlerian Nazism.

If there were a difference between Islamic people (but there isn’t: shahadah clearly states faithfulness to Allah and Muhammad, and Koran, Ahadith and Sirah are there to be read, and WORLD’S REALITY to be seen/aknowledged) and Islamists, Islamic people would aknowledge the danger of Islamic (virtual and practical) migration in the whole World, and would FIGHT IT BACK much more vigorously.

This doesn’t happen, and even so called/allegedly Moderates or Reformers, when it comes to criticize the very core of (D)evil, they rather accuse you of Islamophobia (…), and start defaming and insulting you. I just read an article about Fort Hood massacre by a well know Reformist: he talked about Islamic mistreatement of others all around the World … but lightening it very much! He did not mention about normal citizen’s persecution, kidnapping, rape, forced conversion, looting, Mafia style unofficial “jizia” payement and esle.

How reliable those so called Reformist and anti Islamists/Islamism are? (Rethorical question).

SHORTLY: I AM VERY WORRIED. WE ARE STILL LIVING THE RACISM EXPERIENCED BEFORE 60S, AND HITLERIAN NAZISM ALIKE ATMOSPHERE, (THIS TIME) AT THE HANDS OF ISLAM AND ISLAMIC PEOPLE (MOST PROBABLY THOSE THINGS ALREADY EXISTED IN THEIR VERY WORLD, BUT WE – IN THE WEST – DID NOT KNOW IT!), AND POLITICIANS AND POLITICS AND EVEN SOME OCCULT CIRCLES ARE LETTING US SINKING, OUR CHILDREN AND NEPHEWS, SUPPORTING (FOR A REASON OR ANOTHER) THAT SADIST, TOTALITARIAN, DICTATORIAL, MYSOGINIST, PAEDOPHILE, RACIST, … IDEOLOGY CALLED ISLAM (OR ISLAMISM), WHICH IS BASED ON HATE, SWEETENED BY “BEAUTIFUL CALLIGRAPHY AND THE NICE SOUND OF AZHAN”. TERRIBLE.