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		<title>By: Marion L.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/08/05/musings-on-a-hot-summer-night-in-manhattan/#comment-15131</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot speak for all Western feminists.  However, I can speak for myself.  I am on the horizon. I am appalled by what is happening to Lubna Ahmed al Hussein and I oppose gender apartheid wherever it exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot speak for all Western feminists.  However, I can speak for myself.  I am on the horizon. I am appalled by what is happening to Lubna Ahmed al Hussein and I oppose gender apartheid wherever it exists.</p>
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		<title>By: lauren</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/08/05/musings-on-a-hot-summer-night-in-manhattan/#comment-15128</link>
		<dc:creator>lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phyllis, this is about balance or lack there of. I just received the 92nd Street Y&#039;s catalog of events. Surely they can afford to keep the library open. They are choosing not to. They are choosing to take that money &amp; allocate it elsewhere. It&#039;s not for lack of affordability, that&#039;s for sure. This is a a Y where the richest of the rich send their children to day camp. The money is there. 

George, thank you for the amazing words you put to this movement. I&#039;ve been searching for some time to explain it properly. You really hit it. &quot;First things first. ... Since most feminists identify as leftists (not to be confused with liberals), they are part of the Marxist-Islamic Alliance.&quot;

We have let them co-opt the word and usage of liberal. And because of that I identify myself as a conservative. But these women [and men] are the furthest thing from liberal. Authoritarian group thinkers would be the correct term for them.

Scary times, that I never thought I&#039;d see in my lifetime. 1939 all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phyllis, this is about balance or lack there of. I just received the 92nd Street Y&#8217;s catalog of events. Surely they can afford to keep the library open. They are choosing not to. They are choosing to take that money &amp; allocate it elsewhere. It&#8217;s not for lack of affordability, that&#8217;s for sure. This is a a Y where the richest of the rich send their children to day camp. The money is there. </p>
<p>George, thank you for the amazing words you put to this movement. I&#8217;ve been searching for some time to explain it properly. You really hit it. &#8220;First things first. &#8230; Since most feminists identify as leftists (not to be confused with liberals), they are part of the Marxist-Islamic Alliance.&#8221;</p>
<p>We have let them co-opt the word and usage of liberal. And because of that I identify myself as a conservative. But these women [and men] are the furthest thing from liberal. Authoritarian group thinkers would be the correct term for them.</p>
<p>Scary times, that I never thought I&#8217;d see in my lifetime. 1939 all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna #6: Permit me to intrude a bit and answer
your second question:

The two groups you mention both seek to install and perpetuate a regime of total control based on nothing but prior restraints
and incessant micro-management.

As birds of a feather flock together, they will wind up scratching each others back regardless of what differences they may appear to have.  

During WWII, Islamists and Nazis were bosom buddies, so all this is nothing new.  And out in the Far East, Imperial Japanese certainly 
managed to make a few deals with Stalin&#039;s cadres.

Whenever the essential elements of desires
coincide, common ground will be found. This is true for both the good guys and the bad guys.  The latter, unfortunately, manage to do it more quickly.

Hopefully this will clarify things for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna #6: Permit me to intrude a bit and answer<br />
your second question:</p>
<p>The two groups you mention both seek to install and perpetuate a regime of total control based on nothing but prior restraints<br />
and incessant micro-management.</p>
<p>As birds of a feather flock together, they will wind up scratching each others back regardless of what differences they may appear to have.  </p>
<p>During WWII, Islamists and Nazis were bosom buddies, so all this is nothing new.  And out in the Far East, Imperial Japanese certainly<br />
managed to make a few deals with Stalin&#8217;s cadres.</p>
<p>Whenever the essential elements of desires<br />
coincide, common ground will be found. This is true for both the good guys and the bad guys.  The latter, unfortunately, manage to do it more quickly.</p>
<p>Hopefully this will clarify things for you.</p>
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		<title>By: ZBudapest</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZBudapest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darling sister!
You blame the feminists  for not helping personally the opressed poor feminists in the islamic apartaids? How in the world could THAT be done without being killed ourselves? Even you just have words, thank heaven you use them, but words only. What would it look like:&quot; feminist on the horizon&quot; to help the poor women under islamic aparteid? If you have a suggestion, dont hold back!
But stop blaming feminists for the gender aparteid in islamic countries.  If was not for feminism those women would not have  even a  HOPE for change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darling sister!<br />
You blame the feminists  for not helping personally the opressed poor feminists in the islamic apartaids? How in the world could THAT be done without being killed ourselves? Even you just have words, thank heaven you use them, but words only. What would it look like:&#8221; feminist on the horizon&#8221; to help the poor women under islamic aparteid? If you have a suggestion, dont hold back!<br />
But stop blaming feminists for the gender aparteid in islamic countries.  If was not for feminism those women would not have  even a  HOPE for change.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only have two questions.

#1 logdon: Would you please elaborate on what you referred to as the &#039;under age sexual grooming of white girls in areas of high Muslim populace&#039;?

#4 Mr.Jochnowitz: I hear a lot about Islamists and Marxists working towards the same goals, but I don&#039;t quite understand this alliance or what these two groups have common. Could you elaborate, please?


Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only have two questions.</p>
<p>#1 logdon: Would you please elaborate on what you referred to as the &#8216;under age sexual grooming of white girls in areas of high Muslim populace&#8217;?</p>
<p>#4 Mr.Jochnowitz: I hear a lot about Islamists and Marxists working towards the same goals, but I don&#8217;t quite understand this alliance or what these two groups have common. Could you elaborate, please?</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: David Thomson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...all replaced by a newer, younger, taller, sleeker building or store.&quot;

You may be assuming far too much.  New York City&#039;s days of greatness could be coming to a close.  Both individuals and businesses have to ask themselves this harsh question:  Why should they endure the high taxes and declining lifestyle?  Does the stock market really have to be a large city?  Internet video is getting better all the time. Are face to face meetings worth the normally high costs?  The voters of New York have royally screwed themselves.  They voted for all this left-wing tax and spend craziness.  The piper now has to be paid.  Nope, those building might remain vacant and abandoned---for many years into the distant future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;all replaced by a newer, younger, taller, sleeker building or store.&#8221;</p>
<p>You may be assuming far too much.  New York City&#8217;s days of greatness could be coming to a close.  Both individuals and businesses have to ask themselves this harsh question:  Why should they endure the high taxes and declining lifestyle?  Does the stock market really have to be a large city?  Internet video is getting better all the time. Are face to face meetings worth the normally high costs?  The voters of New York have royally screwed themselves.  They voted for all this left-wing tax and spend craziness.  The piper now has to be paid.  Nope, those building might remain vacant and abandoned&#8212;for many years into the distant future.</p>
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		<title>By: George Jochnowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Jochnowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First things first.  Feminists care about women, but opposition to Israel and support for Islam take precedence. Since most feminists identify as leftists (not to be confused with liberals), they are part of the Marxist-Islamic Alliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First things first.  Feminists care about women, but opposition to Israel and support for Islam take precedence. Since most feminists identify as leftists (not to be confused with liberals), they are part of the Marxist-Islamic Alliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Gianni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gianni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phyllis, the Feminist Majority newswire include stories about Lubna and other muslim women&#039;s plight. 
And, I was surprised in a positive way to see a discussion panel about islamic fundamentalism listed among the others on the recent NOW convention.
I see these things as signs of positive developments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phyllis, the Feminist Majority newswire include stories about Lubna and other muslim women&#8217;s plight.<br />
And, I was surprised in a positive way to see a discussion panel about islamic fundamentalism listed among the others on the recent NOW convention.<br />
I see these things as signs of positive developments.</p>
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		<title>By: jaujau</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaujau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must continually drive your last point home to the lazy, relativistic nonthinking leftards who say those kinds of things.
We must get in their faces, and we must shame them. The women in the Muslim world cannot do it without deadly repurcussions, yet that doesn&#039;t stop them. It&#039;s only the smug and arrogant western liberal women who are too gutless to help these women. We must shame them and name them, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must continually drive your last point home to the lazy, relativistic nonthinking leftards who say those kinds of things.<br />
We must get in their faces, and we must shame them. The women in the Muslim world cannot do it without deadly repurcussions, yet that doesn&#8217;t stop them. It&#8217;s only the smug and arrogant western liberal women who are too gutless to help these women. We must shame them and name them, too.</p>
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		<title>By: logdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>logdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Chesler&#039;s account of how Muslim women are somehow afforded a &#039;special place&#039;in the eyes of Western feminists and their cohorts who wield power is telling.

Here in Britain, Muslims get such a free pass by using the spurious &#039;cultural difference/respect&#039; mantle that under age sexual grooming of white girls in areas of high Muslim populace goes virtually ignored.

We are in the process of enacting sweeping legislation which will require any professional who has contact with children to be vetted, then have to pay for a special certificate. 

This draconian sweep is state control of high order and many are refusing.

Meanwhile real abuse is going on under their noses and not a peep?

Of course the Muslim community, whenever the rare arrests do occur, howl of discrimination and islamophobia.

In other words if you are a Muslim male, a blind eye is applied, and young girls suffer with little chance of retribution. Or real justice.

This is not unnoticed by our population and an article in yesterdays Times of our duty to be in Afghanistan to help the terribly abused women was met with a barrage of ridicule.

In other words our Government&#039;s willful refusal to prosecute Muslim males here in Britain is having a knock on effect.

Why should we lose lives in an overseas hell hole when similar practices are going right here but because of our Govs cowardice are swept under the carpet. There are votes, you see, in those ghettos and Labour, on the ropes after twelve years of ruin are hardly likely to rock the boat.

Those girls are reduced to pawns in a divisive political game and a massive double standard is applied.

Muslim women in Afghanistan worthy of protection. White girls in Britain suffering similar predatorial abuse from Muslim males ignored.

Welcome to the world of cultural relativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Chesler&#8217;s account of how Muslim women are somehow afforded a &#8216;special place&#8217;in the eyes of Western feminists and their cohorts who wield power is telling.</p>
<p>Here in Britain, Muslims get such a free pass by using the spurious &#8216;cultural difference/respect&#8217; mantle that under age sexual grooming of white girls in areas of high Muslim populace goes virtually ignored.</p>
<p>We are in the process of enacting sweeping legislation which will require any professional who has contact with children to be vetted, then have to pay for a special certificate. </p>
<p>This draconian sweep is state control of high order and many are refusing.</p>
<p>Meanwhile real abuse is going on under their noses and not a peep?</p>
<p>Of course the Muslim community, whenever the rare arrests do occur, howl of discrimination and islamophobia.</p>
<p>In other words if you are a Muslim male, a blind eye is applied, and young girls suffer with little chance of retribution. Or real justice.</p>
<p>This is not unnoticed by our population and an article in yesterdays Times of our duty to be in Afghanistan to help the terribly abused women was met with a barrage of ridicule.</p>
<p>In other words our Government&#8217;s willful refusal to prosecute Muslim males here in Britain is having a knock on effect.</p>
<p>Why should we lose lives in an overseas hell hole when similar practices are going right here but because of our Govs cowardice are swept under the carpet. There are votes, you see, in those ghettos and Labour, on the ropes after twelve years of ruin are hardly likely to rock the boat.</p>
<p>Those girls are reduced to pawns in a divisive political game and a massive double standard is applied.</p>
<p>Muslim women in Afghanistan worthy of protection. White girls in Britain suffering similar predatorial abuse from Muslim males ignored.</p>
<p>Welcome to the world of cultural relativity.</p>
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