I believe people are good, as I explain in my essay
http://www.jochnowitz.net/Essays/Blessed.html

As for your contention that people are good, it seems to be in opposition to what you wrote above, quoting your post # 8: “We live in a world where everybody hates everybody else”.

That why I thought it was a Pascalian statement.

As per your essay although is very humanist, does not concur with my views of things. Eric Hoffer also wrote that the only solution of humanity is to become more human. But there is a limit to humanism or humanization. There is nothing new under the sun. Humanity goes around in a widening circle.

The Mundaka Upanishad I.2.8 states:

“They live and move in the Ignorance and go round and round, battered and stumbling, like blind men led by one who is blind.”

And the Rg Veda, VII 60.5 says:

“These are they who are conscious of the much falsehood in the world; they grow in the house of Truth, they are the strong and invincible sons of Infinity.”

We must admit the necessity of evil and falsehood in the workings of the Divine. Man is a mixture of both. It is sometimes reasoned that as Truth and Good have their absolutes, so Falsehood and Evil must also have their absolutes, or, if it is not so, then both must belong to the relativity only.

But whereas Truth and Good are absolute and eternal, falsehood and evil are not.

The origin of evil is Avidya, Ignorance, which is THE PERCEPTION OF THE NON-EXISTENT, AND THE NON-PERCEPTION OF THE EXISTENT.

For Humanity to save itself, it must leap above and beyond itself.

George;

Whereas Semitic could be ascribed to a certain family of languages, “Aryan”, in my opinion, cannot. For the latter, you were probably referring to the Indo-Iranian family of languages. There is also a Sanskritic family of languages that includes Bengali, Hindi, and Gujarati.

The term “Aryan” is specifically a Vedic term. Max Muller, principally, and other Indologists, created the myth of the Aryan Invasion theory out of several dubious passages in the Rg Veda and because it served their opinion of the supremacy of the white race, thus the so-called Aryan race was born. This theory has been largely debunked. The British used this myth to create as much divide as possible between the lighter northern Indians and the darker Dravidians from the South.

Then the Nazis readily accepted the so-called “Aryan race” that never existed. That was my contention when you wrote that “the gypsies were Aryan”. Actually, Heinrich Himmler, in his ignorance, thought so too. The gypsies came from India.

The definition of Aryan in the Rg Veda is: Those who have accepted a particular type of self-culture, of inward and outward practice, of idea and aspiration. Also reflected well-governed life, candor, courtesy, nobility, straight dealing, courage, gentleness, purity, humanity, compassion, protection of the weak, liberality, observance of social duty, eagerness of knowledge, respect for the wise and learned, the social accomplishments. It was the combined ideal of the Brahmana (religious) and the Kshatriya (warrior).

I believe people are good, as I explain in my essay
http://www.jochnowitz.net/Essays/Blessed.html
and in my book, THE BLESSED HUMAN RACE.

It is blind faith, whether religious or political, that leads good people to do bad things because they think they are being virtuous.

“Semitic” and “Aryan” are terms for language families, but because of Wilhelm Marr, who invented the word “anti-Semite,” people began to use them as ethnic terms, which of course makes no sense. Marr felt he had to create a new word because of the danger that Jews who had become atheists or Christians might no longer be considered Jewish. Marr said they should be hated, whatever their religion, because of their “Semitic race.”

The authors I mentioned in my post #8 were people who wrote about the Nazi extermination of the Gypsies.

Max, right on the money.

The only thing I can add is the believe by Eric Hoffer that Western Jews at the turn of the 19th century had lost their identity, were frustrated, and flocked to mass movements. Notice the number of Jews around Lenin *who himself was 1/4 Jew). Trotsky, Livinov, Kaganovish, and many others.

The mass movement in question here is one that uses the 2 most charged, and empty, slogans that probably has been used to deceive the masses since time immemorial: HOPE and CHANGE. The same movement that is trying to restructure organizations like Acorn, and community organizers of different caliper, followers of Saul Alinsky (also Jew), to intimidate by showing up unannounced at your home to bully you if you dissent with them. Remember Obama reminded those CEOs that “I am in between you and the pitchforks”, a very troublesome statement for a president to make, not unlike the slip of the tongue he had with Joe the Plumber that almost cost him the elections.

I agree with most of what you wrote, but still think there have been, before and after Hitler, several episodes that qualify as a Holocaust.. For me, the litmus test is whether there was a purpose and planning. Take the Armenians, the Turks killed have their population at the time. Purpose and planning here? Definitely. The Porrajmos again, also qualifies as well.

I have read many books on the Shoa, and specialize in “Aktion Reinhard” (Belzec – Sobibor – Treblinka – Chelmno) under SS Gruppenfuhrer Odilo Globocnik (BTW, Odilo did not have German blood, he was a Germanized Slovenian). That’s why I keep in contact with Sobibor survivor Thomas Blatt. The will behind Aktion Reinhard set up was an obscure Nazi who I consider probably the worst of the worst: Krimminal Kommissar Haupmant Christian Wirth from Stuttgart who had been in charge of the Euthanasia program in Germany. Interestingly enough, even though Wirth was supposed to report to Odilo, he had access directly to the Fuhrer Chancellery through Phillip Bouler, what corroborates that Hitler was totally involved and pushing behind the scenes. Michael Tregenza lives in Lublin and he is the real expert. Also, retired Scotland Yard detective Robin O’Neil in England has written extensively on the subject, and the info is available through the Internet.

There is not such a thing as an Aryan race, by the way. The gypsies migrated from India, Aryan is a term used in the Vedas as an adjective for a certain condition for individuals that followed the Dharma. The Nazis distorted the term, as they did with the Swastika, which is also a Indian symbol.

Yes, we live in that world you described, on that you seem to accept Blaise Pascal’s pronouncement that there is very little good deep down in the human being, that’s why a leap toward a new Supramental man or Gnostic species is of the essence. Mind you, this would not be an aggrandized man, for then you get again the Nietzsche ubermensch, the SS man, and we know what happened. No, this must be a spiritualized being that manifest the Divine on earth.

Among the very many books by Jews who have written about the Holocaust, you might want to read the following:

Gilad Margalit, GERMANY AND ITS GYPSIES
Henry Friedlander, THE ORIGINS OF NAZI GENOCIDE
Ina Friedman, THE OTHER VICTIMS

I don’t know whether you have ever gone to a Save Darfur rally, but if you have, you certainly must have seen that a disproportionately large percentage of the demonstrators are visibly Jewish.

Nevertheless, the Holocaust was indeed unique, since the Nazis had no conflict of interest whatsoever with the Jews. Nazis loved musicians and academics, and Jews were highly represented in both groups. They desperately needed atomic scientists and knew it, but they drove all the atomic scientists from Germany and its allies (Italy, Hungary) to America, where Einstein, Teller, Szilard, and Fermi (married to a Jew and therefore Jewish under the Nuremberg Laws) could share their knowledge about nuclear weapons. When the Soviet Army was advancing, Hitler decided it was more important to use trains to transport as many Jews as possible to Auschwitz before the end of the war rather than utilizing the railroads to support (or evacuate) his troops.

Hitler, who talked about the superiority Aryans, didn’t care that the Gypsies were Aryans. Once the death camps were operating, he was ready to use them for unpopular minorities. But if Hitler hadn’t decided to exterminate the Jews, he never would have attacked the Guypsies.

Hitler talked about the biological inferiority of Semites, but he cooperated with Arab leaders, most notably the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

We live in a world where everybody hates everybody else. Nevertheless, anti-Semitism is the most prevalent, the most lasting, and the most pointless of prejudices.

The first group are traitors to Judaism, to Israel and to America – their own country. Let’s stop beating around the bush and call them what they really are – communists (belong to a Party), marxists (belong to a movement or thought cult), partyless socialists (or marxist-lites), and nasty SOBs. If you want to understand the word “slime”, talk to them – I.F. Stone (KGB and CPUSA); Leonard Bernstein (CPUSA); Victor Navasky (the worst of the slimeballs, a CPUSA protector); Rabbi Balfor Brickner (what was he doing supporting Wilfred Burchett, a Soviet KGB agent, Australian Communist Party member, and possible Red Chinese military officer – re Korean War); Michael Lerner (Seattle Liberation Front/SDS/ Tikkun, etc). Arthur Waskow (Institute for Policy Studies) along with IPS marxist Marcus Raskin; Cora “I’m just a Jewish housewife from Brooklyn” Weiss (and my father was a Comintern agent/CPUSA member, and my husband is and was a German communist and we all support IPS); etc.

As Madelaine Kahn sang in “Blazing Saddles”, “I’m tired, so tired” of all this Bullsh*it.

“Progressive Jews” was just communist talk for Party members and their sympathizers and dupes. Some grew up and left the Party, but the Party didn’t leave some of them. They are still around in a newer generation of Israel-haters, Castro-lovers such as Jodie Evans and Media Benjamin of Code Pink(o), a hardcore communist sympathizing group who supports Castro, Chavez and Ortega, just to name a few Israel and Jew-hating communist dictators.

The same for the International Solidarity Movement Jews.

They get a lot of press while decent pro-Israel Jews are called fascists and genocidists.

As for the “moderate, fashionable American Jews”, they are useless cowards, sheep for the shearing, the lemming of Lvov, those who refused to read and believe “Mein Kampf.” I’m afraid my relatives were among those because they died in Lvov/Lemberg, or Belzec or Auschwitz (because they stayed in Austria when they were warned to leave).

Among these fashionable American Jews are many of Obama’s key advisors – Rahm Emanuel, who used to belong to my shual; David Axelrod (whose whole story has not yet been revealed); and others who are detroying America, one piece at a time – the banks; mortgage companies; the auto industry; the coal industry; defense projects; Gitmo; war crimes investigation threats; the food industry; etc.

And who is going as representatives of Obama to Syria – two Jewish foreign service officers, that’s who. Ain’t that sweet?

We are in an age of the “New KAPO”, often funded by an old KAPO, George Soros, and the Jewish Left and fashionable Jews think that everything is fine.

Why doesn’t the concept of “Germany and the 1930′s” ring warning bells anymore? We are running out of “Jewish canaries in the coal mines” of the world – Jews should be put on the Endangered Species List – because we are. Check any historical map of the world between 1930 and 2009 and see where Jews are NO LONGER PRESENT. Then get back to me if you want to argue.

We can no longer afford to have “a progressive, Jewish Left” or “moderate fashionable American Jews”. One will betray you thru guile and design; the other thru gullibility and stupidity. Either way, we lose unless what is left of American Jewry wakes up and start to shake the foundations of heaven and earth.

1) Yes, go ahead Phyllis, you are not alone. We can cry a little together, or else.

2) Jews must understand that their Holocaust is not unique. Unique is the Shoa (a very pregnant Hebrew world that belongs to Jews).

3) Perhaps the 4 greatest crimes of the 20th century besides the Shoa and Stalinism, are the Armenian genocide, the Porrajmos, the Pol Pot affair, and the Rwanda genocide. All 4 are not well known. On the Armenian genocide, Turkey has spent, and continues to spend, millions of dollars on cover up, and that was 100 years ago.

4) We now know that a genocidal holocaust must have at least 2 main ingredients: a) Purpose b) Planning. All those mentioned above comply. There are more.

5) But if I were to measure the different holocausts using the assessment by Shoa survivor Rabbi Emil Fackenheim of “Absolute Evil”, I must say that it is the Porrajmos. This word in Romani (main gypsy dialect in Europe), means “the great devouring”.

6) Devoid of support, hated by their neighbors, abandoned to the follies of Nazi racial laws, like children in a Maelstrom, 400,000 gypsies were exterminated (Vernichtung!) by the Nazis. I can’t remember a Jew raising his voice about them, nor even the Pope. No, no, that probably diminishes the Shoa.