Comments on: The Montreal Massacrist and Hasibullah Sadiqi Have the Same Kind of Father http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/ Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:06:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Abusive Fathers Raise Abusive Sons daughters are taught to be abused « Silent No More! http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-14073 Abusive Fathers Raise Abusive Sons daughters are taught to be abused « Silent No More! Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:32:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-14073 [...] The Montreal Massacrist and Hasibullah Sadiqi Have the Same Kind of Father [...] [...] The Montreal Massacrist and Hasibullah Sadiqi Have the Same Kind of Father [...]

]]> By: Chesler Chronicles » Who Should Be Tried For Islamist Criminal Conspiracies in the West–The Lone Shooter, His Entire Family, the Country that Shelters the Jihadic Group that Trained him? http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12935 Chesler Chronicles » Who Should Be Tried For Islamist Criminal Conspiracies in the West–The Lone Shooter, His Entire Family, the Country that Shelters the Jihadic Group that Trained him? Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:12:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12935 [...] I am not talking about the Afghan brother, Hasibullah Sadiqi, who has just been found guilty in Ottawa, Canada for having killed his sister and her fiancee and [...] [...] I am not talking about the Afghan brother, Hasibullah Sadiqi, who has just been found guilty in Ottawa, Canada for having killed his sister and her fiancee and [...]

]]> By: The High Cost of Western Idealism: Saving Schoolgirls From Being Poison-Gassed in Afghanistan and Honor-Murdered in Sweden. | Vlad Tepes http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12279 The High Cost of Western Idealism: Saving Schoolgirls From Being Poison-Gassed in Afghanistan and Honor-Murdered in Sweden. | Vlad Tepes Thu, 14 May 2009 04:39:23 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12279 [...] in Ottawa and who is now standing trial, came to Canada when he was five months old. Nevertheless, Hasibullah enacted ancient tribal, (or radically Islamic codes), despite the fact that he had been living in [...] [...] in Ottawa and who is now standing trial, came to Canada when he was five months old. Nevertheless, Hasibullah enacted ancient tribal, (or radically Islamic codes), despite the fact that he had been living in [...]

]]> By: Chesler Chronicles » The High Cost of Western Idealism: Saving Schoolgirls From Being Poison-Gassed in Afghanistan and Honor-Murdered in Sweden. http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12267 Chesler Chronicles » The High Cost of Western Idealism: Saving Schoolgirls From Being Poison-Gassed in Afghanistan and Honor-Murdered in Sweden. Wed, 13 May 2009 17:14:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12267 [...] in Ottawa and who is now standing trial, came to Canada when he was five months old. Nevertheless, Hasibullah enacted ancient tribal, (or radically Islamic codes), despite the fact that he had been living in [...] [...] in Ottawa and who is now standing trial, came to Canada when he was five months old. Nevertheless, Hasibullah enacted ancient tribal, (or radically Islamic codes), despite the fact that he had been living in [...]

]]> By: A Survivor http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12262 A Survivor Tue, 12 May 2009 16:33:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12262 Oh please evil pundit, I am one of those abused by "a man hating mommy". Guess what? I don't hate women, nor do I abuse them or anyone, never inflicted one iota of harm on my daughters. I worked on being a good parent and took the harder uphill road but it was so worth it. WHY? Because, after escaping from her, I found the right people who were able to help me face the truth of what damage I could inflict upon my children if I didn't address the effects of a psycho-mom on me. Thankfully I am not my mother, and that is as important as the knowledge that my daughters are not me. I don't live vicariously through them and I consider that a great achievement. Do you realize that our "westernized" society allowed me to access the information and professionals to make that vital change to heal myself? I "chose" not to remain ignorant, or in "victim mode" and was "able" to turn to the people who could help, both men and woman, I am grateful. Sadly my siblings didn't, result: estranged from their children, children already in trouble with the law, not finishing high school and one sib suicided. I don't want our society to step backwards on this in regards to "honor killing women" given a pass due to the culture trump card, but that's how I'm seeing it going. Besides the sentences are lame enough already for murdered women in this country, CAN. Three years for killing your wife because you were drunk or get completely off if the argument gets very heated and the man didn't walk away instead bashed her head in, then getting a pass, claiming "I was provoked beyond reason"! Or hey, my fav, that "so called" judge in BC who allowed a pedophile to claim as his defense, that a two or three-year-old female child deserved to be sexually molested because she was touching the grown mans pants zipper and he had no control over that. Gee guess she should have known better eh? Pfff! Oh please evil pundit, I am one of those abused by “a man hating mommy”. Guess what? I don’t hate women, nor do I abuse them or anyone, never inflicted one iota of harm on my daughters. I worked on being a good parent and took the harder uphill road but it was so worth it.
WHY? Because, after escaping from her, I found the right people who were able to help me face the truth of what damage I could inflict upon my children if I didn’t address the effects of a psycho-mom on me.

Thankfully I am not my mother, and that is as important as the knowledge that my daughters are not me. I don’t live vicariously through them and I consider that a great achievement.

Do you realize that our “westernized” society allowed me to access the information and professionals to make that vital change to heal myself? I “chose” not to remain ignorant, or in “victim mode” and was “able” to turn to the people who could help, both men and woman, I am grateful.
Sadly my siblings didn’t, result: estranged from their children, children already in trouble with the law, not finishing high school and one sib suicided.
I don’t want our society to step backwards on this in regards to “honor killing women” given a pass due to the culture trump card, but that’s how I’m seeing it going.

Besides the sentences are lame enough already for murdered women in this country, CAN. Three years for killing your wife because you were drunk or get completely off if the argument gets very heated and the man didn’t walk away instead bashed her head in, then getting a pass, claiming “I was provoked beyond reason”!
Or hey, my fav, that “so called” judge in BC who allowed a pedophile to claim as his defense, that a two or three-year-old female child deserved to be sexually molested because she was touching the grown mans pants zipper and he had no control over that. Gee guess she should have known better eh?
Pfff!

]]> By: Evil Pundit http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12259 Evil Pundit Tue, 12 May 2009 11:48:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12259 Meh, more man-hating. What about the children raised by abusive single mothers, who are fed with hate for the fathers driven out by selfish women and a sexist legal system? They are also violent. I'd be more sympathetic to your cause if you weren't such a misandrist. Meh, more man-hating.

What about the children raised by abusive single mothers, who are fed with hate for the fathers driven out by selfish women and a sexist legal system? They are also violent.

I’d be more sympathetic to your cause if you weren’t such a misandrist.

]]> By: ali http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12258 ali Tue, 12 May 2009 11:32:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12258 i totally agree with your oberservation of Mr. Sadiqi father... Hasibullah model himself after his abusive equally disturb father and stubbornly refused to find out why his sister hated his father too much, always defended him, and ultimately committed a cruel act under the shadow of ''provocation'' that somehow both the victims put the gun in his hand and told him to shoot them... after a night of the movie and dinner, he give them a surprise of a life time, he did what he wanted to do all along, regardless what the poor victim had said or done..... i hope he gets first degree sentence, we feel no sympathy for this lunetic... i totally agree with your oberservation of Mr. Sadiqi father…

Hasibullah model himself after his abusive equally disturb father and stubbornly refused to find out why his sister hated his father too much, always defended him, and ultimately committed a cruel act under the shadow of ”provocation” that somehow both the victims put the gun in his hand and told him to shoot them… after a night of the movie and dinner, he give them a surprise of a life time, he did what he wanted to do all along, regardless what the poor victim had said or done….. i hope he gets first degree sentence, we feel no sympathy for this lunetic…

]]> By: Judy, NYC http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12257 Judy, NYC Tue, 12 May 2009 09:48:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12257 it's too complicated for us to understand where mental illness and culture divurge because of our extreme denial we call political correctness, which precludes us from having a mental health initiative that calls them crazy. western culture came through the tunnel of medieval thought into the enlightenment. presuming other cultures did as well is make believe, a fairy story, and imagining that one is not better than the other is another tale told by idiots. these horrific murders and the constant spewing of hatred and bizarre practices are an anathema to our civilization, and it is changing our culture. every day we read about something more heinous than the day before and the day before that. if we have become Rome, i lay the blame for this at the feet of mr. obama and his following. and to place it properly, mr. bush, whose cronies sought to crush the spirit and enterprise of middle class aspirations, can lay the wreath. it’s too complicated for us to understand where mental illness and culture divurge because of our extreme denial we call political correctness, which precludes us from having a mental health initiative that calls them crazy. western culture came through the tunnel of medieval thought into the enlightenment. presuming other cultures did as well is make believe, a fairy story, and imagining that one is not better than the other is another tale told by idiots.
these horrific murders and the constant spewing of hatred and bizarre practices are an anathema to our civilization, and it is changing our culture. every day we read about something more heinous than the day before and the day before that.
if we have become Rome, i lay the blame for this at the feet of mr. obama and his following. and to place it properly, mr. bush, whose cronies sought to crush the spirit and enterprise of middle class aspirations, can lay the wreath.

]]> By: Abusive Fathers Raise Abusive Sons « Battered Moms Lose Children to Abusers http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12254 Abusive Fathers Raise Abusive Sons « Battered Moms Lose Children to Abusers Tue, 12 May 2009 02:48:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12254 [...] The Montreal Massacrist and Hasibullah Sadiqi Have the Same Kind of Father [...] [...] The Montreal Massacrist and Hasibullah Sadiqi Have the Same Kind of Father [...]

]]> By: George Jochnowitz http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/05/11/the-montreal-massacrist-and-hasibullah-sadiqi-have-the-same-kind-of-father/#comment-12252 George Jochnowitz Mon, 11 May 2009 23:54:24 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=1177#comment-12252 The Talmud is a series of arguments, some of which are not resolved. Although the arguments take place among rabbis, they are essentially arguments with God. Many of the harsh laws in the Torah are made unenforceable in the Talmud. As far as Jewish immigrant families are concerned, their children may have been obedient, but they weren't silent. My own parents were immigrants who arrived in the USA in their 20s. They were very controlling, but I always had freedom of speech. The Talmud is a series of arguments, some of which are not resolved. Although the arguments take place among rabbis, they are essentially arguments with God. Many of the harsh laws in the Torah are made unenforceable in the Talmud.

As far as Jewish immigrant families are concerned, their children may have been obedient, but they weren’t silent. My own parents were immigrants who arrived in the USA in their 20s. They were very controlling, but I always had freedom of speech.

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