Comments on: A Civilized Dialogue About Islam and Honor Killing. When Feminist Heroes Disagree. http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/ Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:06:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: OpinionEditorial — Blog — Worldwide Trends in Honor Killings http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-25200 OpinionEditorial — Blog — Worldwide Trends in Honor Killings Fri, 07 May 2010 13:08:54 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-25200 [...] Oct. 14, 2008. [8] Chesler,” Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?“; “A Civilized Dialogue about Islam and Honor Killing: When Feminist Heroes Disagree,” Chesler Chronicles, Mar. 2, 2009; “Jordanian Journalist Rana Husseini on [...] [...] Oct. 14, 2008. [8] Chesler,” Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?“; “A Civilized Dialogue about Islam and Honor Killing: When Feminist Heroes Disagree,” Chesler Chronicles, Mar. 2, 2009; “Jordanian Journalist Rana Husseini on [...]

]]> By: Muslimah Media Watch » The Fight of the Century: Chesler vs. Wolf http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-16431 Muslimah Media Watch » The Fight of the Century: Chesler vs. Wolf Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:02:26 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-16431 [...] Funny, considering Chesler picks fights all the time, and no one seemed to be interested in an actual debate she had with Dorchen Leidholdt a few months ago about Islam and women that was actually [...] [...] Funny, considering Chesler picks fights all the time, and no one seemed to be interested in an actual debate she had with Dorchen Leidholdt a few months ago about Islam and women that was actually [...]

]]> By: Dismas http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-11114 Dismas Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:16:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-11114 #52 Scott: True, but infanticide(late-term abortions),is an accepted practice in the feminazified west. Late term abortions, or for that matter any abortion is murder. Even if it is the very, very late term abortion of a female old enough to be the wife of an adherent of Islam "the religion of peace". Maybe the feminazis don't get it, but life begins at conception. Dismembering a fetus is every bit as evil as beheading a wife. And, the Christianity I believe in, tells a man to love and support his wife in every way possible. . . but, he's still the head of his family, just like Jesus loves everyone of his followers (he died for our sins), and Jesus is the head of the church. I don't know one (devout) Christian husband that mistreats his wife. Mistreating your wife is tantamount to slapping Jesus across the mouth. A Christian is supposed to protect and support his wife, or, be considered worse than an heretic. #52 Scott: True, but infanticide(late-term abortions),is an accepted practice in the feminazified west.

Late term abortions, or for that matter any abortion is murder. Even if it is the very, very late term abortion of a female old enough to be the wife of an adherent of Islam “the religion of peace”.

Maybe the feminazis don’t get it, but life begins at conception. Dismembering a fetus is every bit as evil as beheading a wife.

And, the Christianity I believe in, tells a man to love and support his wife in every way possible. . . but, he’s still the head of his family, just like Jesus loves everyone of his followers (he died for our sins), and Jesus is the head of the church. I don’t know one (devout) Christian husband that mistreats his wife. Mistreating your wife is tantamount to slapping Jesus across the mouth. A Christian is supposed to protect and support his wife, or, be considered worse than an heretic.

]]> By: deguello http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-11054 deguello Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:48:06 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-11054 #52 Scott: True, but infanticide(late-term abortions),is an accepted practice in the feminazified west. #52 Scott: True, but infanticide(late-term abortions),is an accepted practice in the feminazified west.

]]> By: scott g http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-11008 scott g Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:35:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-11008 'Islamic Feminism' is an oxymoron. Islam has never undergone a Reformation, as Christianity has. The Koran is considered the absolute and final word. The Bible is not. Those who oppose the Koran are subject to MURDER as apostates. Westernized Muslims do not have the power to change anything............if they dare oppose the powers that be....especially the Wahabist barbarians, they are subject to death. Dorchen's mind is so intellectually isolated from reality she refuses to accept that murder is an accepted practice under Islam. ‘Islamic Feminism’ is an oxymoron. Islam has never undergone a Reformation, as Christianity has. The Koran is considered the absolute and final word. The Bible is not. Those who oppose the Koran are subject to MURDER as apostates.

Westernized Muslims do not have the power to change anything…………if they dare oppose the powers that be….especially the Wahabist barbarians, they are subject to death.

Dorchen’s mind is so intellectually isolated from reality she refuses to accept that murder is an accepted practice under Islam.

]]> By: ked5 http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-10992 ked5 Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:04:58 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-10992 #41 ” . . . The women’s movement of the left in Norway doesn’t care about non-western women . . .” ~~~~ Is it that they don't care, or, like PETA and leather clad Hell's Angels, have a supreme lack of the courage of their convictions? (re: are afraid to confront someone who won't back down - and may beat them to a bloody pulp, if not outright kill them.) #41

” . . . The women’s movement of the left in Norway doesn’t care about non-western women . . .”

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Is it that they don’t care, or, like PETA and leather clad Hell’s Angels, have a supreme lack of the courage of their convictions? (re: are afraid to confront someone who won’t back down – and may beat them to a bloody pulp, if not outright kill them.)

]]> By: CrusaderPatriot http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-10978 CrusaderPatriot Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:58:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-10978 Are you kidding me? How often when there are cases of domestic violence where the woman's head is cut off? It's directly related to Islam! When that father, who has yet to be caught, killed his two daughters in Texas because they were becoming "too westernized" and dating "non-muslims", it's directly related to Islam. When women in Pakistan (or name your muslim country) are gang raped and then the women are the ones punished for being gang raped! It's directly related to Islam! If their faces are too exposed in some muslim countries, some radical muslims are throwing acid on them. It's directly related to Islam! Women should be the ones most upset about the march of Islam, but they vote for a Dhimini party (Obama & the Democrats) sympathetic to Islam. It's pure ignorance and it's a damn shame! Visit thereligionofpeace.com to learn more! Are you kidding me? How often when there are cases of domestic violence where the woman’s head is cut off? It’s directly related to Islam! When that father, who has yet to be caught, killed his two daughters in Texas because they were becoming “too westernized” and dating “non-muslims”, it’s directly related to Islam. When women in Pakistan (or name your muslim country) are gang raped and then the women are the ones punished for being gang raped! It’s directly related to Islam! If their faces are too exposed in some muslim countries, some radical muslims are throwing acid on them. It’s directly related to Islam! Women should be the ones most upset about the march of Islam, but they vote for a Dhimini party (Obama & the Democrats) sympathetic to Islam. It’s pure ignorance and it’s a damn shame! Visit thereligionofpeace.com to learn more!

]]> By: aramkr http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-10974 aramkr Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:23:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-10974 Achter #42: They are not being killed by their fathers, brothers and cousins and the killers are going to jail for a long time. Achter #42:
They are not being killed by their fathers, brothers and cousins and the killers are going to jail for a long time.

]]> By: Friday Links — March 6, 2009 « Muslimah Media Watch http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-10972 Friday Links — March 6, 2009 « Muslimah Media Watch Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:05:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-10972 [...] Chesler and Dorchen Leidholdt hold a dialogue about Islam and Women in parts one and two. (Full disclosure: I do not hold Ms. Chesler as an authority on Islam, nor do I believe her [...] [...] Chesler and Dorchen Leidholdt hold a dialogue about Islam and Women in parts one and two. (Full disclosure: I do not hold Ms. Chesler as an authority on Islam, nor do I believe her [...]

]]> By: deguello http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/03/02/a-civilized-dialogue-about-islam-and-honor-killing-when-feminist-heroes-disagree/#comment-10960 deguello Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:47:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=862#comment-10960 #46 All true,yet, it's perfectly acceptable in the West, to engage in infanticide(late term abortions),evidently the feminists are more interested in killing babies, than they are in preventing female beheadings. #46 All true,yet, it’s perfectly acceptable in the West, to engage in infanticide(late term abortions),evidently the feminists are more interested in killing babies, than they are in preventing female beheadings.

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