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	<title>Comments on: A &#8220;Cultural&#8221; Offense/Defense&#8211;But For the Prosecution. Some Thoughts for the Prosecutor of the Buffalo Beheading.</title>
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		<title>By: The Patriot&#39;s Flag &#187; Shari&#8217;a Social Regulation</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Patriot&#39;s Flag &#187; Shari&#8217;a Social Regulation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] correctness, poses a danger to civil society. Just last year, a Muslim man in Buffalo, New York beheaded his wife in what appeared to be an honor killing, again using his faith to justify his actions. It is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] correctness, poses a danger to civil society. Just last year, a Muslim man in Buffalo, New York beheaded his wife in what appeared to be an honor killing, again using his faith to justify his actions. It is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sambhunath Tiadi, Bhubaneswar(Orissa)India</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sambhunath Tiadi, Bhubaneswar(Orissa)India</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 05:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be only one common law for all the people of the world.  There should not be any religious feelings or religious laws. All the religious laws except moral and spiritual should be banned. Rules,laws and acts are nothing. We have made it by applying our common mind and common sense. Sharia Law is also one of them framed by the earlier people for their own interest. In the instant case, in my opinion, if a husband try to rape her wife forcible, create violence, it will be better for them to be separated. If a wife/husband feel dissatisfied, and involved themselves in cruel activities,separation should be the latest solution for the sake of peace. Ladies/women are equal to men. Hence, they should not be neglected. It  does not mean that a women knowingly black mail his husband. We should proceed on the basis of truth.
Advocate/Lawyer
President cum Managing Trustee
Lord Jesus &amp; Mother Mary Foundation
Bhubaneswar(Orissa)India
91- 9777816178</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be only one common law for all the people of the world.  There should not be any religious feelings or religious laws. All the religious laws except moral and spiritual should be banned. Rules,laws and acts are nothing. We have made it by applying our common mind and common sense. Sharia Law is also one of them framed by the earlier people for their own interest. In the instant case, in my opinion, if a husband try to rape her wife forcible, create violence, it will be better for them to be separated. If a wife/husband feel dissatisfied, and involved themselves in cruel activities,separation should be the latest solution for the sake of peace. Ladies/women are equal to men. Hence, they should not be neglected. It  does not mean that a women knowingly black mail his husband. We should proceed on the basis of truth.<br />
Advocate/Lawyer<br />
President cum Managing Trustee<br />
Lord Jesus &amp; Mother Mary Foundation<br />
Bhubaneswar(Orissa)India<br />
91- 9777816178</p>
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		<title>By: The Real Impact of Sharia Law in America &#124; The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Impact of Sharia Law in America &#124; The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] correctness, poses a danger to civil society. Just last year, a Muslim man in Buffalo, New York beheaded his wife in what appeared to be an honor killing, again using his faith to justify his actions. It is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] correctness, poses a danger to civil society. Just last year, a Muslim man in Buffalo, New York beheaded his wife in what appeared to be an honor killing, again using his faith to justify his actions. It is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Civilized Dialogue About Islam and Honor Killing. When Feminist Heroes Disagree. &#171; ACT Northern Virginia/Richmond/DC Metro Chapter. Dedicated to the Defense of our freedom from Islamic Ideology.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/20/a-cultural-defense-but-for-the-prosecution-some-thoughts-for-the-prosecutor-of-the-buffalo-beheading/#comment-10899</link>
		<dc:creator>A Civilized Dialogue About Islam and Honor Killing. When Feminist Heroes Disagree. &#171; ACT Northern Virginia/Richmond/DC Metro Chapter. Dedicated to the Defense of our freedom from Islamic Ideology.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Violence?” Thereafter, between [3] February 17th and [4] February 27th, I published an [5] additional [6] five [7] articles on the subject. Dorchen is on my mailing list and so she received every [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Violence?” Thereafter, between [3] February 17th and [4] February 27th, I published an [5] additional [6] five [7] articles on the subject. Dorchen is on my mailing list and so she received every [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chesler Chronicles &#187; A Civilized Dialogue About Islam and Honor Killing. When Feminist Heroes Disagree.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chesler Chronicles &#187; A Civilized Dialogue About Islam and Honor Killing. When Feminist Heroes Disagree.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Domestic Violence?&#8221; Thereafter, between February 17th and February 27th, I published an additional five articles on the subject. Dorchen is on my mailing list and so she received every article. Late [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Domestic Violence?&#8221; Thereafter, between February 17th and February 27th, I published an additional five articles on the subject. Dorchen is on my mailing list and so she received every article. Late [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo (from downunder)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorenzo (from downunder)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to me to be an act of domestic violence done according to a Muslim pattern of killing.  The misogyny that so infects Islam is very present.

It is less clear to me that it is a classic (dis)honour killing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to me to be an act of domestic violence done according to a Muslim pattern of killing.  The misogyny that so infects Islam is very present.</p>
<p>It is less clear to me that it is a classic (dis)honour killing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chesler Chronicles &#187; The Danger To the Prosecution of Calling an &#8220;Honor Killing&#8221; an Honor Killing.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/20/a-cultural-defense-but-for-the-prosecution-some-thoughts-for-the-prosecutor-of-the-buffalo-beheading/#comment-10754</link>
		<dc:creator>Chesler Chronicles &#187; The Danger To the Prosecution of Calling an &#8220;Honor Killing&#8221; an Honor Killing.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all honor killings look exactly alike. Sometimes, the killers are not the woman&#8217;s own father and brothers but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all honor killings look exactly alike. Sometimes, the killers are not the woman&#8217;s own father and brothers but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that the instrument used was not found on the scene. 

Would this indicate help in the execution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that the instrument used was not found on the scene. </p>
<p>Would this indicate help in the execution?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone keeps saying that this killing, and other &quot;honor&quot; killings, are part of Islamic culture. In fact, in reality they&#039;re part of the culture of some Middle Eastern countries, not of Islam. Islam is used by the people who commit these murders as an excuse, but in the Muslim world the religion is the excuse for everything that anyone does, that&#039;s objectionable to anyone else.

Think about it. In the above article, Chesler cites a passage from the Koran that starts out talking about meeting enemies on the battlefield. She then relates this to the guy&#039;s actions when he killed the wife who was divorcing him. But was she an enemy on a battlefield? I don&#039;t think so. She was instead the guy&#039;s wife. Now the Koran does at one point encourage wife-beating, but it never says anything about killing wives or daughters, at least not that I&#039;m aware of.

Think again of what these killings are called. &quot;Honor&quot; killings. Not &quot;Religious&quot; killings, but &quot;Honor&quot; killings. What&#039;s going on, frankly, is that if your 15 year old daughter is flirting with non-Muslim boys at a local McDonalds, it *shames* a man in front of his friends. If a powerful TV executive has three wives leave him in turn, because he beats them, it&#039;s *embarrassing*, *humiliating* to him. A person in such a culture has a reputation, and it can be drastically influenced by the behavior of family members, especially the women. If they do things which the community doesn&#039;t approve of, it reflects badly on the men who are supposed to be responsible for the women of the family. Those men need to act swiftly, to restore the family honor. There&#039;s no religious aspect to this, whatsoever, beyond perhaps the sorts of behavior that are prohibited. It&#039;s more about what those in the Hispanic community refer to as *machismo* and much less about religion. The problem is that here in the states, religion has such a bad reputation that if any mention of religious practices is made, around an incident like this, everyone assumes it&#039;s the sole, or at least the major, component to what happened.

Trust me, when he did this the guy was saying to himself &quot;A man can only take so much...What did she expect me to do?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone keeps saying that this killing, and other &#8220;honor&#8221; killings, are part of Islamic culture. In fact, in reality they&#8217;re part of the culture of some Middle Eastern countries, not of Islam. Islam is used by the people who commit these murders as an excuse, but in the Muslim world the religion is the excuse for everything that anyone does, that&#8217;s objectionable to anyone else.</p>
<p>Think about it. In the above article, Chesler cites a passage from the Koran that starts out talking about meeting enemies on the battlefield. She then relates this to the guy&#8217;s actions when he killed the wife who was divorcing him. But was she an enemy on a battlefield? I don&#8217;t think so. She was instead the guy&#8217;s wife. Now the Koran does at one point encourage wife-beating, but it never says anything about killing wives or daughters, at least not that I&#8217;m aware of.</p>
<p>Think again of what these killings are called. &#8220;Honor&#8221; killings. Not &#8220;Religious&#8221; killings, but &#8220;Honor&#8221; killings. What&#8217;s going on, frankly, is that if your 15 year old daughter is flirting with non-Muslim boys at a local McDonalds, it *shames* a man in front of his friends. If a powerful TV executive has three wives leave him in turn, because he beats them, it&#8217;s *embarrassing*, *humiliating* to him. A person in such a culture has a reputation, and it can be drastically influenced by the behavior of family members, especially the women. If they do things which the community doesn&#8217;t approve of, it reflects badly on the men who are supposed to be responsible for the women of the family. Those men need to act swiftly, to restore the family honor. There&#8217;s no religious aspect to this, whatsoever, beyond perhaps the sorts of behavior that are prohibited. It&#8217;s more about what those in the Hispanic community refer to as *machismo* and much less about religion. The problem is that here in the states, religion has such a bad reputation that if any mention of religious practices is made, around an incident like this, everyone assumes it&#8217;s the sole, or at least the major, component to what happened.</p>
<p>Trust me, when he did this the guy was saying to himself &#8220;A man can only take so much&#8230;What did she expect me to do?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we accept that &quot;Muzammil Hassan’s &#039;alleged&#039; beheading of his wife, Aasiya Z. Hassan, does not fit the profile of a classical honor killing–and, of course, that Islam has nothing to do with it&quot;, I think we are allowing Islamists to define a situation we know little about.

All we know is that Aasiya&#039;s beheaded body was found in the offices of Bridges TV after her husband reported her death to the police at 6:20 pm. We do not know if her husband committed the act alone. 

To me, it seems highly unlikely that one man, even a big, strong one, could behead a vibrant, young woman, with adrenaline flowing, in a public place without anyone hearing the commotion and coming to her aid. This act apparently took place on a weekday afternoon in a business establishment and her body was discovered in the hallway, a common area. Where were the workers?  Was she actually killed there or somewhere else and brought there? Could Hassan manage all that on his own? In the middle of the day?

Also, we don&#039;t know if she was killed first and beheaded later. Only an autopsy can confirm that. 

Then there&#039;s Hassan&#039;s report to the police. I would imagine that beheading someone is a very messy undertaking. Did Hassan do the deed and then clean himself up and change his clothes before going the police station? Did he have the time to do that?

There are many logistical questions left unanswered that suggest accomplices were involved and until we get more evidence, including an autopsy, I don&#039;t think we should relinquish naming this atrocious murder an honor killing so easily. Rushing to call it an ordinary domestic violence death, does not honor Aasiya&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we accept that &#8220;Muzammil Hassan’s &#8216;alleged&#8217; beheading of his wife, Aasiya Z. Hassan, does not fit the profile of a classical honor killing–and, of course, that Islam has nothing to do with it&#8221;, I think we are allowing Islamists to define a situation we know little about.</p>
<p>All we know is that Aasiya&#8217;s beheaded body was found in the offices of Bridges TV after her husband reported her death to the police at 6:20 pm. We do not know if her husband committed the act alone. </p>
<p>To me, it seems highly unlikely that one man, even a big, strong one, could behead a vibrant, young woman, with adrenaline flowing, in a public place without anyone hearing the commotion and coming to her aid. This act apparently took place on a weekday afternoon in a business establishment and her body was discovered in the hallway, a common area. Where were the workers?  Was she actually killed there or somewhere else and brought there? Could Hassan manage all that on his own? In the middle of the day?</p>
<p>Also, we don&#8217;t know if she was killed first and beheaded later. Only an autopsy can confirm that. </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s Hassan&#8217;s report to the police. I would imagine that beheading someone is a very messy undertaking. Did Hassan do the deed and then clean himself up and change his clothes before going the police station? Did he have the time to do that?</p>
<p>There are many logistical questions left unanswered that suggest accomplices were involved and until we get more evidence, including an autopsy, I don&#8217;t think we should relinquish naming this atrocious murder an honor killing so easily. Rushing to call it an ordinary domestic violence death, does not honor Aasiya&#8217;s life.</p>
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