Comments on: Cold, Premeditated, Ritual Murder. The Honor Killing of Aasiya Z. Hassan. Part Two http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/ Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:06:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dr. Sabiyya http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-22824 Dr. Sabiyya Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:25:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-22824 Chesler pretends to be a scholar, whereas she doesn't know a thing about Islam. Let the murderer say he is doing this in the name of Islam and for restoring family honor- this is NOT Islam.How can you get honor by killing someone which itself is a heinous act.Killing because of not wearing hijab or being too western blah blah is all bullshit. This is not taught by Islam. Had Chesler any idea of what Islam is, she wouldn't be saying these were cases of honor killing. These were gruesome murders by deranged lunatics maligning Islam. Why has the death penalty been abolished in most of the western countries? Shouldn't people like these be sentenced to death for taking innocent lives? People in the west have no idea what Islam is and self proclaimed scholars like Chesler are dime a dozen, only misleading and misinforming people. Chesler pretends to be a scholar, whereas she doesn’t know a thing about Islam. Let the murderer say he is doing this in the name of Islam and for restoring family honor- this is NOT Islam.How can you get honor by killing someone which itself is a heinous act.Killing because of not wearing hijab or being too western blah blah is all bullshit. This is not taught by Islam. Had Chesler any idea of what Islam is, she wouldn’t be saying these were cases of honor killing. These were gruesome murders by deranged lunatics maligning Islam. Why has the death penalty been abolished in most of the western countries? Shouldn’t people like these be sentenced to death for taking innocent lives? People in the west have no idea what Islam is and self proclaimed scholars like Chesler are dime a dozen, only misleading and misinforming people.

]]> By: Chesler Chronicles » Brother on Trial for Killing Sister in Ottawa: Guess Where He’s Originally From http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-12188 Chesler Chronicles » Brother on Trial for Killing Sister in Ottawa: Guess Where He’s Originally From Fri, 08 May 2009 21:30:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-12188 [...] United States, in Ottawa, Henrietta, and Buffalo, where, in 2009, long time Pakistani immigrant, Muzammil Hassan, beheaded his wife [...] [...] United States, in Ottawa, Henrietta, and Buffalo, where, in 2009, long time Pakistani immigrant, Muzammil Hassan, beheaded his wife [...]

]]> By: The Beheading Victim Was Also Muslim :All That Is Necessary… http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-11588 The Beheading Victim Was Also Muslim :All That Is Necessary… Thu, 02 Apr 2009 04:43:54 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-11588 [...] of her study “Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?” (she votes No), has called on bloggers and reporters to help advance the [...] [...] of her study “Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?” (she votes No), has called on bloggers and reporters to help advance the [...]

]]> By: Gender Apartheid- - Not Our Agenda. Part One « ACT Northern Virginia/Richmond/DC Metro Chapter. Dedicated to the Defense of our freedom from Islamic Ideology. http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-11319 Gender Apartheid- - Not Our Agenda. Part One « ACT Northern Virginia/Richmond/DC Metro Chapter. Dedicated to the Defense of our freedom from Islamic Ideology. Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:24:14 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-11319 [...] authors have both been speaking out about honor killings in the West and have both described the recent Buffalo beheading of Aasiya Z. Hassan by her husband as an Islamist-style honor-related [...] [...] authors have both been speaking out about honor killings in the West and have both described the recent Buffalo beheading of Aasiya Z. Hassan by her husband as an Islamist-style honor-related [...]

]]> By: Chesler Chronicles » Gender Apartheid- - Not Our Agenda. Part One http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-11250 Chesler Chronicles » Gender Apartheid- - Not Our Agenda. Part One Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:33:05 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-11250 [...] authors have both been speaking out about honor killings in the West and have both described the recent Buffalo beheading of Aasiya Z. Hassan by her husband as an Islamist-style honor-related [...] [...] authors have both been speaking out about honor killings in the West and have both described the recent Buffalo beheading of Aasiya Z. Hassan by her husband as an Islamist-style honor-related [...]

]]> By: Nooreen http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-11110 Nooreen Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:58:09 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-11110 Here are some quotations from Chapter AL Nisa ( The Women). This gives you some idea on how Quran commands about Women, marital relations & to fight for protecting weak from cruelty. Surah 4 - Al-Nisa' THE WOMEN 004.019 O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good. 004.075 And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!" 004.076 Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble in deed is the cunning of Satan. 004.079 Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from God; but whatever evil happens to thee, is from thy (own) soul. and We have sent thee as a Messenger to (instruct) mankind. And enough is God for a witness. 004.084 Then fight in God's cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that God will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for God is the strongest in might and in punishment. 004.085 Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: And whoever recommends and helps an evil cause, shares in its burden: And God hath power over all things. 004.086 When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. God takes careful account of all things 004.090 Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If God had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then God Hath opened no way for you (to war against them). 004.093 If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (Forever): And the wrath and the curse of God are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him. 004.128 If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. 004.130 But if they disagree (and must part), God will provide abundance for all from His all-reaching bounty: for God is He that careth for all and is Wise. . Here are some quotations from Chapter AL Nisa ( The Women). This gives you some idea on how Quran commands about Women, marital relations & to fight for protecting weak from cruelty.

Surah 4 – Al-Nisa’ THE WOMEN

004.019 O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good.

004.075 And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: “Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!”

004.076 Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble in deed is the cunning of Satan.

004.079 Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from God; but whatever evil happens to thee, is from thy (own) soul. and We have sent thee as a Messenger to (instruct) mankind. And enough is God for a witness.

004.084 Then fight in God’s cause – Thou art held responsible only for thyself – and rouse the believers. It may be that God will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for God is the strongest in might and in punishment.

004.085 Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: And whoever recommends and helps an evil cause, shares in its burden: And God hath power over all things.

004.086 When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. God takes careful account of all things

004.090 Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If God had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then God Hath opened no way for you (to war against them).

004.093 If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (Forever): And the wrath and the curse of God are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him.

004.128 If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband’s part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men’s souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do.

004.130 But if they disagree (and must part), God will provide abundance for all from His all-reaching bounty: for God is He that careth for all and is Wise.
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]]> By: Nooreen http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-11107 Nooreen Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:49:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-11107 I am a Muslim women & in answer to the comments in the above article about Islam, Our beloved prophet Mohammad (May peace be upon him) & our holy book Quran. I want to say that Islam is the religion that bring humanity out from preIslamic barbaric society of killing daughters upon birth by burying them alive. Our Quran & Prophet conveyed/taught people Allah's message about the honor and pride for a women. It identified the role of women in the society & how she should be cared & treated. Our Prophet conveyed the message of Islam as peace & only peace for the whole society including muslims non muslims, neighbors, and even the prisoners of war. There is no place in Quran in which this kind of act is justified and no such example in the life of Prophet. Please read Quran & Islamic history before making such comments. If you are not sure where to look in Quran about the commandments for women let me know & I will walk you through it but please do not publish something about someone's religion which do not make any sense just by looking at some individual's crazy actions. I am a Muslim women & in answer to the comments in the above article about Islam, Our beloved prophet Mohammad (May peace be upon him) & our holy book Quran. I want to say that Islam is the religion that bring humanity out from preIslamic barbaric society of killing daughters upon birth by burying them alive. Our Quran & Prophet conveyed/taught people Allah’s message about the honor and pride for a women. It identified the role of women in the society & how she should be cared & treated. Our Prophet conveyed the message of Islam as peace & only peace for the whole society including muslims non muslims, neighbors, and even the prisoners of war. There is no place in Quran in which this kind of act is justified and no such example in the life of Prophet. Please read Quran & Islamic history before making such comments. If you are not sure where to look in Quran about the commandments for women let me know & I will walk you through it but please do not publish something about someone’s religion which do not make any sense just by looking at some individual’s crazy actions.

]]> By: Chesler Chronicles » A Civilized Dialogue About Islam and Honor Killing. When Feminist Heroes Disagree. http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-10883 Chesler Chronicles » A Civilized Dialogue About Islam and Honor Killing. When Feminist Heroes Disagree. Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:38:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-10883 [...] published my study “Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?” Thereafter, between February 17th and February 27th, I published an additional five articles on the subject. Dorchen is on my mailing [...] [...] published my study “Are Honor Killings Simply Domestic Violence?” Thereafter, between February 17th and February 27th, I published an additional five articles on the subject. Dorchen is on my mailing [...]

]]> By: Heidi http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-10766 Heidi Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:22:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-10766 Excellent article, again, Phyllis. Excellent article, again, Phyllis.

]]> By: Alfredo http://pjmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/02/17/cold-premeditated-ritual-murder-the-honor-killing-of-aasiya-z-hassan-part-two/#comment-10756 Alfredo Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:47:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=796#comment-10756 The worst nightmare for the Muslims is the Koran itself, they can't escape it, and in there the denigration and slavery of women is plainly and clearly stated. I remember after 9/11, president Bush insisted on repeating the line that "Islam is a peaceful religion", and so on and so forth, which is not, a peaceful Islam is an oxymoron. This misleading line is emphasized by CAIR here in the US and many Muslims worldwide, but then we witness the beheadings, the stoning of men and women in Saudi Atabia and Iran, the cutting off of hands, the acid thrown on the faces of girls that want to go to school in Taliban country, the incredible intolerance against other religions in many muslim countries. So, give me break. The worst nightmare for the Muslims is the Koran itself, they can’t escape it, and in there the denigration and slavery of women is plainly and clearly stated.

I remember after 9/11, president Bush insisted on repeating the line that “Islam is a peaceful religion”, and so on and so forth, which is not, a peaceful Islam is an oxymoron. This misleading line is emphasized by CAIR here in the US and many Muslims worldwide, but then we witness the beheadings, the stoning of men and women in Saudi Atabia and Iran, the cutting off of hands, the acid thrown on the faces of girls that want to go to school in Taliban country, the incredible intolerance against other religions in many muslim countries.

So, give me break.

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