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	<title>Comments on: Damsels of Death: Female Suicide Killers in Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman, Jihadic Style. President Obama, Please Read This. &#171; ACT Northern Virginia/Richmond/DC Metro Chapter.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman, Jihadic Style. President Obama, Please Read This. &#171; ACT Northern Virginia/Richmond/DC Metro Chapter.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 04:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of their daughters; and about female Muslim suicide-homicide bombers who have specifically targeted other women and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of their daughters; and about female Muslim suicide-homicide bombers who have specifically targeted other women and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chesler Chronicles &#187; The Electronic Jihadist: A Brief Conversation With Dr. Nancy H. Kobrin.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chesler Chronicles &#187; The Electronic Jihadist: A Brief Conversation With Dr. Nancy H. Kobrin.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people came by: Dr. Nancy Kobrin, with whom I have written articles (you may read some of them, Here, Here, Here, and Here) and whose work I adore. Dr. Nancy is an Arabist and psycho-analyst whose [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people came by: Dr. Nancy Kobrin, with whom I have written articles (you may read some of them, Here, Here, Here, and Here) and whose work I adore. Dr. Nancy is an Arabist and psycho-analyst whose [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Otherwise, why aren’t... impoverished Filipinos doing suicide bombing?&lt;/i&gt;
Actually they have been for quite a few years, except they weren&#039;t the northern Filip&#039;s. 

The Bangsamoro from the southern Mindanao Islands, which are geologically closest to Malaysia, were the suicide bombers of their day; however, the Moros typically stuck to using knifes (bolos) to commit their suicidal actions. 

And yes the Moro are generally Sunni Muslim, and are still getting testy and support Abu Sayaf and Jemaah Islamiyah.

Moroland is where US Army soldiers came up with the very non-PC phrase, &quot;Let&#039;s civilize &#039;em with a Krag.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Otherwise, why aren’t&#8230; impoverished Filipinos doing suicide bombing?</i><br />
Actually they have been for quite a few years, except they weren&#8217;t the northern Filip&#8217;s. </p>
<p>The Bangsamoro from the southern Mindanao Islands, which are geologically closest to Malaysia, were the suicide bombers of their day; however, the Moros typically stuck to using knifes (bolos) to commit their suicidal actions. </p>
<p>And yes the Moro are generally Sunni Muslim, and are still getting testy and support Abu Sayaf and Jemaah Islamiyah.</p>
<p>Moroland is where US Army soldiers came up with the very non-PC phrase, &#8220;Let&#8217;s civilize &#8216;em with a Krag.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;intimadation&lt;/i&gt;

intimidation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>intimadation</i></p>
<p>intimidation</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...how the patriarchal power imposes (a lack of) “choices” on women in that part of the world.&lt;/i&gt;

It would be hard to argue with the notion that patriarchal power is one of the drivers of (some) female suicide bombers.   

I recall a few years ago a highly devout Muslim woman in the West Bank who was trained for a mission inside Israel.  At the last minute, she couldn&#039;t detonate herself and/or destroy her intended targets.

She was arrested by the Israelis.  I don&#039;t know where she is today, but I think about her and I admire her for being &quot;unable&quot; to carry out her mission.

&lt;i&gt;OR that their families are blackmailed by the insurgents into getting their daughters, mothers, sisters to perpetrate such acts so that they can save the family’s face in those communities?&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;The insurgents&quot; in the Northwest region of Pakistan are intimidating the local tribes, as well.  The people there are suffering under Taliban like fundamentalism and intimadation.

A courageous woman doesn&#039;t go along with the program.  She refuses.

It can happen. 

Accusing someone of &quot;hating Muslims&quot; is really not the point.  

Look around the world at events of the past several decades, from Africa to Indonesia to the Philippines to Europe to anywhere in the Middle East, to the Far East, to North America, even to South America, it is &quot;Muslims&quot; instigating and promoting the killing and mayhem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;how the patriarchal power imposes (a lack of) “choices” on women in that part of the world.</i></p>
<p>It would be hard to argue with the notion that patriarchal power is one of the drivers of (some) female suicide bombers.   </p>
<p>I recall a few years ago a highly devout Muslim woman in the West Bank who was trained for a mission inside Israel.  At the last minute, she couldn&#8217;t detonate herself and/or destroy her intended targets.</p>
<p>She was arrested by the Israelis.  I don&#8217;t know where she is today, but I think about her and I admire her for being &#8220;unable&#8221; to carry out her mission.</p>
<p><i>OR that their families are blackmailed by the insurgents into getting their daughters, mothers, sisters to perpetrate such acts so that they can save the family’s face in those communities?</i></p>
<p>&#8220;The insurgents&#8221; in the Northwest region of Pakistan are intimidating the local tribes, as well.  The people there are suffering under Taliban like fundamentalism and intimadation.</p>
<p>A courageous woman doesn&#8217;t go along with the program.  She refuses.</p>
<p>It can happen. </p>
<p>Accusing someone of &#8220;hating Muslims&#8221; is really not the point.  </p>
<p>Look around the world at events of the past several decades, from Africa to Indonesia to the Philippines to Europe to anywhere in the Middle East, to the Far East, to North America, even to South America, it is &#8220;Muslims&#8221; instigating and promoting the killing and mayhem.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Brink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;these poor women are not some indoctrinated kook&quot;

Nasi--
oh my, was that a dig at me? There are plenty of more worthy causes in the world I can support than yours. If that is the attitude you  are going to take towards someone who was trying to defend you, then consider my support for you Nil. You can fight this battle alone, as I said there are plenty of causes out there who would love support from this &quot;indoctrinated kook&quot;.

Ta-Ta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;these poor women are not some indoctrinated kook&#8221;</p>
<p>Nasi&#8211;<br />
oh my, was that a dig at me? There are plenty of more worthy causes in the world I can support than yours. If that is the attitude you  are going to take towards someone who was trying to defend you, then consider my support for you Nil. You can fight this battle alone, as I said there are plenty of causes out there who would love support from this &#8220;indoctrinated kook&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ta-Ta</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Nasi, sorry, I&#039;m not buying your Third World Oppression meme/explanation.  Islam and its scriptures are the source of the violence.  Otherwise, why aren&#039;t South American kids in the favelas or impoverished Filipinos doing suicide bombing?  There are misogynist tendencies in those cultures too.  Plus, before there was Islam in Arabia and before Muhammad (Pigs**it Be Upon Him) Arabian women were not generally treated this way.

Islam is the source.  Islam is the cause of most of the violence in the world today.  Thailand, East Timor, Malaysia, Southern Philippines, lots of places in Africa, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Nasi, sorry, I&#8217;m not buying your Third World Oppression meme/explanation.  Islam and its scriptures are the source of the violence.  Otherwise, why aren&#8217;t South American kids in the favelas or impoverished Filipinos doing suicide bombing?  There are misogynist tendencies in those cultures too.  Plus, before there was Islam in Arabia and before Muhammad (Pigs**it Be Upon Him) Arabian women were not generally treated this way.</p>
<p>Islam is the source.  Islam is the cause of most of the violence in the world today.  Thailand, East Timor, Malaysia, Southern Philippines, lots of places in Africa, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Nasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Chesler, I&#039;m sure you&#039;re convinced of what you&#039;re alleging but do your realize that more often than not these poor women are not some indoctrinated kook as they are 2nd class people (not even citizens) who do not have the control or the run of their own lives and have been beaten into submission by some male figure? OR that their families are blackmailed by the insurgents into getting their daughters, mothers, sisters to perpetrate such acts so that they can save the family&#039;s face in those communities? Madame you may have lived in Afghanistan for 5 minutes 40 years ago but you have absorbed nothing of the socio-cultural aspects of those countries and how the patriarchal power imposes (a lack of) &quot;choices&quot; on women in that part of the world. If you stopped hating all muslims long enough, you&#039;d see that in fact there are other, peripheral issues at work here. Like most westerners you only judge things from your own angle and though you lived in that part of the world, it appears that you absorbed little or nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Chesler, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re convinced of what you&#8217;re alleging but do your realize that more often than not these poor women are not some indoctrinated kook as they are 2nd class people (not even citizens) who do not have the control or the run of their own lives and have been beaten into submission by some male figure? OR that their families are blackmailed by the insurgents into getting their daughters, mothers, sisters to perpetrate such acts so that they can save the family&#8217;s face in those communities? Madame you may have lived in Afghanistan for 5 minutes 40 years ago but you have absorbed nothing of the socio-cultural aspects of those countries and how the patriarchal power imposes (a lack of) &#8220;choices&#8221; on women in that part of the world. If you stopped hating all muslims long enough, you&#8217;d see that in fact there are other, peripheral issues at work here. Like most westerners you only judge things from your own angle and though you lived in that part of the world, it appears that you absorbed little or nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Gotta love those Islamofascists. They’re not averse to putting aside their misogynist tendencies for a little “equal opportunity” when it comes to terrorist acts.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes.

&lt;i&gt;The fact of the matter is they (ME women) are approached by jihadist men who assure them there is no higher honor than to die for Allah and the Koran. These Islamist thugs have no conscience exploiting their oppressed women be they in a state of grief, religious euphoria, mentally challenged or disabled.&lt;/i&gt;

It would seem so.  I always found it ironic how so many of the chief proponents of the glories of &quot;martyrdom&quot; (e.g., bin Laden, Zawahiri, Sheikh Yassin (now deceased) in Palestine) work very hard to protect their own glorious asses.

&lt;i&gt;The most damning things about Islam are written and spoken BY FORMER MUSLIMS.&lt;/i&gt;

Always the most credible sources.  Also, the writings of the Iranian (by birth) Amir Taheri.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Gotta love those Islamofascists. They’re not averse to putting aside their misogynist tendencies for a little “equal opportunity” when it comes to terrorist acts.</i></p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p><i>The fact of the matter is they (ME women) are approached by jihadist men who assure them there is no higher honor than to die for Allah and the Koran. These Islamist thugs have no conscience exploiting their oppressed women be they in a state of grief, religious euphoria, mentally challenged or disabled.</i></p>
<p>It would seem so.  I always found it ironic how so many of the chief proponents of the glories of &#8220;martyrdom&#8221; (e.g., bin Laden, Zawahiri, Sheikh Yassin (now deceased) in Palestine) work very hard to protect their own glorious asses.</p>
<p><i>The most damning things about Islam are written and spoken BY FORMER MUSLIMS.</i></p>
<p>Always the most credible sources.  Also, the writings of the Iranian (by birth) Amir Taheri.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of the last stanza of Rudyard Kipling&#039;s poem: &quot;The Young British Soldier.&quot;

When you&#039;re wounded and left on Afghanistan&#039;s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An&#039; go to your Gawd like a soldier.
      Go, go, go like a soldier,
      Go, go, go like a soldier,
      Go, go, go like a soldier,
         So-oldier _of_ the Queen!.

Also, the stories from the settlement of the American West were that the worst tortures of someone captured by the Indians were administered by the women.  Maybe that was just fiction--or maybe there was something to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the last stanza of Rudyard Kipling&#8217;s poem: &#8220;The Young British Soldier.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re wounded and left on Afghanistan&#8217;s plains,<br />
And the women come out to cut up what remains,<br />
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains<br />
An&#8217; go to your Gawd like a soldier.<br />
      Go, go, go like a soldier,<br />
      Go, go, go like a soldier,<br />
      Go, go, go like a soldier,<br />
         So-oldier _of_ the Queen!.</p>
<p>Also, the stories from the settlement of the American West were that the worst tortures of someone captured by the Indians were administered by the women.  Maybe that was just fiction&#8211;or maybe there was something to it.</p>
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