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The Meaning of Fallujah

January 8th, 2014 - 7:54 pm

That’s what happens when you deny reality and insist that you can achieve peace by making nice to your enemies;  you get more war, with even fewer good options than before.  George W. Bush bequeathed Obama a greatly weakened al-Qaeda, a lot of discouraged Islamists, and a cautious Iran.  Five years later, Obama faces rampant Islamic forces, new al-Qaeda armies, and an Iranian regime that believes he will bend to their wishes.

Our enemies expect to keep fighting until they have defeated us, even if they get beaten up along the way.  That’s Fallujah again, a sort of Islamist version of the Brezhnev doctrine:  once they’ve conquered territory, it’s rightfully theirs forever.  They think they’ve proven it.

Fallujah means we can expect things to get worse.  Why shouldn’t our enemies press ahead?  Wouldn’t you, in their boots?  And why should anyone think it’s strategically wise to bond with the new America?  The Egyptian generals will explain to you that the Americans can’t be trusted to support their friends.

Here in Washington, some pundits are saying that things are actually going well, since radical Sunnis and Shi’ites are killing one another.  The problem with this cheery outlook is that eventually one of them will win, and the winner won’t be good for us.  Moreover, Sunnis and Shi’ites have demonstrated they can work well together when the mission is killing Americans.

They can do that even when they’re killing one another.  Just wait.

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I not only contemplate it, it is a nightmare that recurs.

You ever hear of the "shared" nightmare? One that unrelated people tell...like going to work in pajamas or underwear...or signing up for a class and never attending with the final exam coming.

We are all sharing the nightmare of the unholy coupling of small c communism with Muslim Brotherhood/Nation of Islam iron fisted tyranny.

We are painted into a corner as you suggest. Our laws mean nothing. The truth means nothing. Our allies mean nothing. Our borders mean nothing. Our homeland means nothing. Our freedom means nothing. And our honor means nothing.

That is a shared nightmare. One day, we all may awaken from it in a cold sweat.
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If Protestants and Catholics were fighting and killing each other in America and/or Europe would the Muslims in Iraq, and elsewhere for that matter, do anything but cheer? Let the Sunnis and Shiites, in Iraq, and elsewhere, fight to the last man if that's what they insist on, and get a brain and a clue and realize that 8 years in Iraq and 12 years in Afcrapistan is more than enough madness for this century.
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"In the ebb and flow of the global war in which we are so reluctantly engaged..."

I, and the rest of the American people, will pass on your global war. Mr. Ledeen, if you care so much about the situation in dusty, dirty Western Iraq then you are more than welcome to strap on a Kalshnikov and head over there to make a difference.

But I'm glad we aren't sending any more Americans over there to die for the neocons and some tribesmen.

Semper Fi.
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I just can not agree that with the circumstance the USA is looking at that the USA has any reasonable options...but it has been my view since June 2003 that our goal in Iraq was to create a civil war to keep large amounts of Iraqi oil off the "world market"...Iraq puts out +/- 2,000,000/bbl/day now instead of the 8,000,000/bbl/day they are capable of exporting...The same oil numbers and goals apply to the USA policy towards Iran..

Why; because with 12,000,000 more barrels of oil per day production the price of oil would collapse to under $30/bbl; and since the USAs primary, must have at all cost, goal is: "a nice long lasting war and sell lots of weapons"....Proof, 100% proof...

If we had wanted to win this war and stop recruitment for Sunni/Shia/Qaeda et al; all we had/have to do is house the prisoners we take and the dead we create in pigskin; pigskin equals no virgins and no paradise, its their Kryptonite ...

We therefore know for a fact that we only want "a nice long lasting war and sell lots of weapons" c me 1991 and that these mid-east wars are only weapons deals financed by $100/bbl/oil
41 weeks ago
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Zbigniew Brzezinski

Trustee, Trilateral Commission; Director (1973-1976)
Director, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) (1972 to 1977)


In 1979 Carters National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski went into Pakistans border regions with Afghanistan to give a little pep talk to some prospective majehadeen (Holy Warriors).


In a 1997 interview for CNN's Cold War Series, Brzezinski hinted about the Carter Administration's proactive Afghanistan policy before the Soviet invasion in 1979, that he had conceived.


QUESTION: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Zbigniew Brzezinski Taliban Pakistan Afghanistan pep talk 1979

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYvO3qAlyTg&feature=youtu.be
42 weeks ago
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they called us occupiers we responded by saying we were just passing thru, when we were done liberating them they could have it all back. so are we an empire or not, everyone thinks we are. Maliki played liars poker with the weakest horse available. the status of forces poker game was won by Maliki. the question is how bad do the Iraqis want to remain sovereign? it seems time makes the heart grow fonder. what the jihadist couldn't do the CIC seems on schedule to do and that is the decimation of our military.
42 weeks ago
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What bothers me also is that which seems to most "energize" Obama -- it's not opposing America's enemies -- rather Obama seems far more interested in strong-arming Israel to free murderous terrorists from prison; supporting vile adherents of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt; and cozying up to Iran to ease sanctions so they can more quickly obtain nuclear weapons (since I suppose in Obama's worldview, Iran is the strong horse which must be appeased and capitulated to). Basically the CiC is not acting in America's interests (to put it mildly).
42 weeks ago
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In medieval times, people created fairy tales and magical creatures to make sense of their world. One of the most endearing is the unicorn, a horse with a single horn that symbolized purity and wholesomeness. In our modern times, people in Europe and the United States consider themselves more sophisticated and rational than people from the Middle Ages, but we still create myths, albeit more subtle ones.

Daily we hear reports of violent acts committed by Islamic terrorists on every inhabited continent. We try to wish it away with the myth of the ‘Moderate Muslim’, telling ourselves the Islamic agenda has been’ hijacked’ by a tiny minority of 'islamists’ and that soon the huge, silent, 'moderate majority' of Muslims will take charge and change things. However, post 9/11 very few Muslims have condemned terrorist actions. We are still waiting for 'moderates' to stand and deliver, identifying and removing 'extremist thugs' from their mosques and their communities. Waiting for this self-correction is our modern version of searching for unicorns.

"Moderate" Muslims will not be able to wrest control of the agenda for several reasons. First of all, Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah’s eternal word, was not moderate. No "moderate" can legitimately tell another Muslim to stop doing the things Mohammed himself did. Also, the Qur’an condones violence and coercion to further the Islamic agenda. People whom we call 'moderates' are labeled hypocrites by Allah Himself in the Qur’an. 'Moderates' will always lose the argument because, as ex-Muslim author Ibn Warraq says, “There may be 'moderates' in Islam but Islam itself is not moderate.”

Islamic expert Daniel Pipes and others estimate ten percent of the Islamic world to be militant. In 1933 when the Nazi party took control of Germany it had 2 million members, comprising only three percent of Germany’s sixty-six million citizens. A tiny minority of 'extremists' can control a vast number of "moderates", making them irrelevant.
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Actually they do condemn terrorism, but locally, where you're not likely to hear about it. Don't go by what Muslim apologists in the West say - you'll hear nothing but static from them. If you're talking about extra-national terrorism, do you feel compelled to hold a press conference when Christians commit crimes overseas? Silence isn't always as silent as it seems, and silence in and of itself is not tacit agreement. Islam is not an hegemony, and Egyptians aren't likely to apologize for what crazy Saudis do on airliners.
42 weeks ago
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Parents of Marines don't want "the troops" sent onto the battlefield, believe thee me.
42 weeks ago
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Well, don't keep trying to shove things in that direction then, especially as there has been too much of that already and for way too little gain to justify it.
42 weeks ago
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Please read what I say, and try to deal with it. Or not, heh. I am not urging the US to send troops into the ME. Not. I have opposed that for years. I want to act against Iran and Syria, with political methods (different from "diplomatic"...)
42 weeks ago
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That is a very sensible position, now. If a nuclear device were to be detonated in New York of AQ origin, what is now considered "sensible" would immediately change, IMO. I guess we'll just have to wait and hope, as was the position with regard to Germany and Japan. Peace in our time and all that. Jolly good show. Jolly good.
42 weeks ago
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Seems to me, but what do I know, that the smartest thing we could do is stand aside and hold their coats. If I remember correctly, Saddam and Iran went toe to toe for ten years, perhaps a bit less. Hundreds of thousands on BOTH sides were killed. I see no reason to not let it continue.
It'll certainly keep both of them occupied. And we certainly don't need to keep the seaways clear for the Chinese oil companies. Anything that stirs turmoil in the Middle East works to our advantage. Qatar and Saudi wish to get involved? The Muslim Brotherhood? Be our guests. Our advantage would be in confronting the last man standing. Weakened. Impoverished. Politically insecure. Where are the disadvantages?
42 weeks ago
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not to worry, we're not going to intervene to stop it. But open sea lanes are for us, we're not doing it for China. And it is possible that some one may win, and it may be Assad/Iran/Russia, with an al Qaeda army thrown in for halftime entertainment...it's a good time for political action/subversion/support for opposition in places like Iran.
42 weeks ago
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If Russia wants a "win" out of that fetid, satantic hellhole....by all means! We should celebrate their entry into that never-ending blackhole.
42 weeks ago
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It's a tough situation right now Mr. Leeden, I for one supported us kicking the living crap out of al Queda, but now since we have left I just can't see us going back. Would it be possible that Iran can get bogged down in this Middle East fight they are engaged in. Then we could make our move? Of course after Obama is no longer in office.
42 weeks ago
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Iran is up to its neck in Iraq, Syria & Lebanon, not to mention Africa. It's a great time to "make our move," which should NOT be military.
42 weeks ago
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An Epic Expression of Failed COIN Strategy; Fallujah falls to Al Qaida Factions (by John Bernard)

"For the better part of five years, I have been decrying the unconscionable use of the historically failed strategy of Counter Insurgency (COIN) in the midst of an ideological monolithic culture; principally of Islam.

The truth is that the condition of any nation is the primary responsibility of the people who bear its name. To that end, the Iraqi people failed, and are failing once again after we wrongly wasted the blood of our current generation to do something that was not our business; sparing the lives of a people who hate us ideologically!

These continued ill-advised efforts to massage the troubles of cultures in the Islamic world are proceeding with bad advice about those cultures and their religion and continue to threaten the well-being of American War Fighters which are continually compelled to act as a highly restricted police force rather than this nation's Warrior Guard.

We have literally wasted the lives and the well being of far too many of this generation, chasing after something that cannot be achieved; improved relations with a people who will only be satisfied when the last vestige of Infidel's corpses are rotting in the ground."
42 weeks ago
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So this guy would have let Iraq steal Kuwait? Makes no sense to me.
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Here's a news flash, in the event you haven't been paying attention. The last U.S. Troops left Iraq, they pulled out, on December 18, 2011. You need not bother worrying about COIN. As m. Ledeen notes, Iran will no doubt be assisting in the fight against al-Qaeda (which makes even arming Iraqis problematic, as the weapons can easily end up in the hands of Iranians).
42 weeks ago
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" The last U.S. Troops left Iraq, they pulled out, on December 18, 2011."

Thanks for your concern, but I am aware of that, and have been since it happened, and that it was per the Bush/Maliki Status of Forces agreement. Why don't you click on the link to John Bernard - you might learn something.
42 weeks ago
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A better assessment is written by Paul Mirengoff entitled "Surprise: U.S. Weakness Strengthens al-Qaeda" (posted Jan 5, 2014).
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/01/surpise-u-s-weakens-strengthens-al-qaeda.php
42 weeks ago
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No one is better than John Bernard in this area. You can go with the lawyer if you want.
42 weeks ago
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There is also Max Boot's article "how Al Qaeda terrorized its way back in Iraq" (he portions blame to both PM Maliki and the White House) in the WSJ (jan 5, 2014).
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303870704579298392842739678
42 weeks ago
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Max Boot? You have got to be kidding me. Max Boot is a fanatical dogmatist impenetrable by fact. He is an uber chickenhawk who never spent a day of his life in any branch of the military armchair fantasy brat who still believes in the insane Islamic Nation Building and Islamic Democracy Project and won’t be satisfied unless and until American troops are dying in all muslim counties for the rest of time.

Andrew C. McCarthy: "Boot’s attack on West is an effort to defend a surpassingly foolish statement in which Gen. David Petraeus cast Israel as the source of all America’s woes in the Middle East. To his great discredit, the general — in a Clintonesque fashion which, as we shall see, is probably not a coincidence — simultaneously denied making the statement, grudgingly admitted making it while minimizing its significance, and accused West and others of misrepresenting his views. In fact, the general’s critics quoted his words at length, placed them in unmistakable context, and drew from them the same commonsense conclusion drawn by Israel’s gleeful critics — for whom Petraeus is the hero of the moment."
42 weeks ago
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Did you read Boot's article? I think we need to deal with what is going on today in Iraq. Boot points out that Maliki has acted treacherously, along with the Obama administration. There was a pro-American Iraqi who politically challenged Maliki -- what did Obama's administration do? They backed Maliki, the tyrant. That is due to Obama and gang's blistering incompetence. (Petraeus is long gone -- as are U.S. Forces in Iraq -- beating a hasty retreat, thanks to Obozo. This will not end well for American interests.) If you don't like Boot's assessment, there is another article -- "Iran’s fingerprints in Fallujah" by David Ignatius, Published: January 8, Washington Post.
42 weeks ago
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Not to defend Maliki--never liked him--but what would you have him do? We're gone and Iran is next door. Ignatius is right about that. Iran's sway over Iraq was inevitable once we ran away. Any Iraqi leader would behave much the same way...or get killed.
42 weeks ago
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As ignatius notes, many Iraqi analysts predicted the Iranian involvement. Perhaps the U.S. Could have exerted more pressure on Maliki to stop exacerbating the sectarian divide. But, we're dealing with an Obama administration, which I do not believe truly cares if Iraq falters or enters into a civil war.
42 weeks ago
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It is a mendacious slander to say "we" ran away. "We" left on the schedule of the Bush/Maliki Status of Forces agreement. That is not running away. We didn't and don't have to keep troops there fighting for Muslims until Sunnis and Shiites love each other, or Hell freezes over which would probably happen sooner, to not be running away.
42 weeks ago
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Any E4 in the military could tell you that announcing in advance when you are leaving a battlefield is one of the best enhancements to enemy planning you could possibly come up with.
42 weeks ago
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See the ny times article, "Obama's Speech at Camp Lejeune, N.C. Obama stated: " As I have long said, we will retain a transitional force to carry out three distinct functions: training, equipping, and advising Iraqi Security Forces as long as they remain non-sectarian; conducting targeted counter-terrorism missions; and protecting our ongoing civilian and military efforts within Iraq. Initially, this force will likely be made up of 35-50,000 U.S. troops." Of course, he was lying, as usual. He washed his hands of the matter on the pretext that Maliki demanded the power to prosecute American soldiers
42 weeks ago
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Today there are a new groups of al-Qaeda, because the terror masters are not hunted by president Obama. President George Bush fought them and hunted them to the ends of the earth!
42 weeks ago
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"In the ebb and flow of the global war in which we are so reluctantly engaged, that was a moment to be seized. Instead, our new leaders judged it was the perfect time to walk away. They have been walking away ever since. And they had plenty of support, from deep within American tradition, from that oft-fatal conviction that peace is normal and war is an aberration, when the opposite defines human history. So we walked away, abandoning those who had staked their future to America’s commitment to freedom, and giving hope and time to our enemies..."

How silly of those people to stake their future on American commitments. Did they really think we'd wouldn't abandon them once the going got tough? We're AMERICANS. That's what we DO. The Vietnamese, the Iraqis, now the Afghans. Abandoning allies is the American way!
42 weeks ago
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one of my favorite lines, from a Turkish general: "The trouble with having the Americans for allies is that you never know when they're going to stab themselves in the back."
42 weeks ago
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We stabbed ourselves, more so our troops, in the back when we stayed in Iraq and Afcrapistan past the first few months.
42 weeks ago
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You really should consider not being so satirical in repeating librul views.
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