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What Happened in Geneva? What Does It Mean?

November 10th, 2013 - 7:54 pm

However you explain it, I think the key to understanding lies in the 3-page document Ashton gave the Iranians (if it indeed exists), and whether the Western group approved it all.

Meanwhile, since all these negotiators are going back to Switzerland in ten days, it behooves us to look carefully at the three matters to which the French are said to object:

–The heavy-water reactor at Arak.  If the Iranians can continue work on it, it’s hard to be enthusiastic, since that reactor provides Tehran with the potential to construct a plutonium bomb;

–Language that states Iran has a “right” to enrich uranium.  The whole point of any deal with Iran is to prevent the mullahs from amassing enough enriched uranium to quickly assemble an atomic bomb, or warhead;

–The disposition of Iran’s “known” stockpile of enriched uranium.  If they can keep it, that makes it much harder for the West to have any confidence that we’ve made significant progress in preventing Iran going nuclear.

But whatever the answers to all these questions, one thing is luminously clear:  the Obama administration certainly misspoke when it whispered to journalists that the deal was done, and that Kerry was just showing up to get his fair share of the champagne.  As usual, too much (misleading) talk from Obama & Co, and too much amateurism in doing the real deal.

Reminds me of Obamacare, somehow.

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No wonder the Iranians don't want to negotiate, Obama stupidly secretly lifted sanctions on them months ago. Why bother to negotiate if this fool is giving away the farm without getting anything in return?
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Kerry was sent on a fool's errand. There was never going to be any 'deal' with the Iranians unless we line up on their border the assets necessary to take out their nuclear facilities. Even then I suspect they would think we'd never do the deed necessary. And rightfully so. Like their arab neighbors the persians understand and respect real threats come from real forces - not from the likes of feckless idiots like Kerry and Obama. They've had dealings with spineless American Presidents before - Carter.

The day that R. Regan took office the Iranians made haste in releasing the hostages taken during Carter's time in office some 400 days prior. It wasn't a goodwill offering on their part to give up those hostages. They knew Regan wasn't going to be the pushover that Carter was. And they were right.

The deed of military action to slow down the Iranian nuclear weapons program will be left to a middle east 'odd couple' - Israel and Saudi Arabia. Seems they now have something in common - an American president more concerned with the future prospects of the muslim brotherhood than the well being of old friends like Israel.

The Saudis will be happy to pay out the fuel bill for the Israelis to do their dirty work - just like we did for them in getting Iraq out of Kuwait and later kicking Hussein from power. With any luck Israel will get them to buy the bunker-busters needed to take out the Iranians nuclear facilities too.

Obama's fecklessness has made for some strange bedfellows.


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Does this mean Kerry gets another Purple Heart?
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hey, a new version, finally the western powers sided France, it was because of Iran that the discussion failed

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40 weeks ago
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I'm Marie Claude, dunno by any hazard how this pseudo came on board, since I still register the same way
40 weeks ago
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Zeuropeans aren't happy that France nuked their dream to trade with Iran

http://ecfr.eu/content/entry/commentary_french_resistance_to_a_deal_with_iran_un_petit_probleme222

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40 weeks ago
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Yes, Obama "misspoke" again.

There is no point at all in any deal which allows the continued operation of the centrifuges and construction of a heavy water plant. None. This is why the sanctions are there in the first place.

The reason the mullahs returned to the table is that the sanctions are hurting and they perceive the obvious weakness in Obama. He's a punk, a buffoon with a soft spot for islamist extremists - as he showed with all the proud talk of the "Arab Spring" when Muslim Brotherhood thugs took power in Egypt and Tunisia. He had no problem supplying them with advanced weaponry, but once the people demanded the expulsion of Morsi for subverting their democracy, aid must now be reviewed.

40 weeks ago
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The Western world wants an agreement to resolve differences over Iran’s nuclear program. In fact, to doing any deal, it will requires to acknowledge the politics on both sides which means that both sides will need to give up some things. The Iranian hardliners always want more value gains, they want sanctions removed, and above all they want investing some time in order to accomplish what they are doing underground (the dirty bombs) while the American gentlemen in Washington, as usual, would be "the surrendered and humiliated side", of course will giving more of concessions rather than being tough on Iran!
Dear gentlemen, Iran poses a very serious threat to international security, specifically to Israel and the USA. Iran is the most active State sponsor of terrorism around the world. Today it is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in Syria and the region especially since they have the ties with Sunni terrorist groups. So any negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program it's just a "waste of time." NO deal will prevent the Mullahs from pursuing enriching their uranium and supporting of terrorism, this is an important part of their wicked nature!!!
40 weeks ago
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The Obama administration is in a win-win situation. They can go through a foreign affairs failure like this without worrying about bad press. If the deal did go through, they'd then be given credit for making deal, without of course, covering any of the specifics. For once, you have to be grateful to the French for standing up against such a obviously bad deal. It is amazing to me that any American would actually trust either John Kerry or Obama based upon their backgrounds.
40 weeks ago
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I am going to say a prayer for Lurch and Lumumba that they somehow cut a good deal Or perhaps no deal. The mullahs got to where they are by killing people. This stands in stark contrast to the organizer Obama who rose to power by calling white people racist. I hope he says a little prayer asking the Holy Spirit for guidance. But, I doubt it.
40 weeks ago
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No wonder the Iranians don't want to negotiate, Obama stupidly secretly lifted sanctions on them months ago. Why bother to negotiate if this fool is giving away the farm without getting anything in return?
40 weeks ago
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The yield, is bringing America to her knees!?
40 weeks ago
40 weeks ago Link To Comment
Kerry was sent on a fool's errand. There was never going to be any 'deal' with the Iranians unless we line up on their border the assets necessary to take out their nuclear facilities. Even then I suspect they would think we'd never do the deed necessary. And rightfully so. Like their arab neighbors the persians understand and respect real threats come from real forces - not from the likes of feckless idiots like Kerry and Obama. They've had dealings with spineless American Presidents before - Carter.

The day that R. Regan took office the Iranians made haste in releasing the hostages taken during Carter's time in office some 400 days prior. It wasn't a goodwill offering on their part to give up those hostages. They knew Regan wasn't going to be the pushover that Carter was. And they were right.

The deed of military action to slow down the Iranian nuclear weapons program will be left to a middle east 'odd couple' - Israel and Saudi Arabia. Seems they now have something in common - an American president more concerned with the future prospects of the muslim brotherhood than the well being of old friends like Israel.

The Saudis will be happy to pay out the fuel bill for the Israelis to do their dirty work - just like we did for them in getting Iraq out of Kuwait and later kicking Hussein from power. With any luck Israel will get them to buy the bunker-busters needed to take out the Iranians nuclear facilities too.

Obama's fecklessness has made for some strange bedfellows.


40 weeks ago
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The keystone cops antics of this administration would be laughable if it were not so serious. We are talking about Iran, a state that promotes terrorism world wide, obtaining nuclear weapons. Weapons that could be detonated in Israel, Europe, or the US. It appears that the world's diplomats have forgotten Neville Chamberland's peace in our time moment. Only this time the consequences will involve nuclear not conventional weapons. The west apparently feels it is ok to put the lives of millions of their citizens in jeopardy. This is not leadership, this is insanity.
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