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What The Hell Is Going On?

September 2nd, 2013 - 8:36 am

If an intimate conversation is the explanation, it likely had to do with personal convictions, and thus with the president’s worldview.  What is America’s proper role in the world?  What does Obama want his legacy to be?  That sort of thing.

Not that such a conversation could be conducted in isolation from the rest of the world, because the president’s counterparts will have been conducting similar conversations on secure phones, and those themes will surely have been raised.  Messrs Cameron, Hollande and Netanyahu must have weighed in, along with Erdogan, Saudi King Abdullah, and others.

What others?  What about the Iranians?  We know that Obama sees Iran as the key to “solving” the Syrian mess, and we know that Obama has authorized secret contacts, even before he was elected, and Swiss diplomats are forever brokering meetings and carrying messages back and forth.  What if the Iranians offered him a deal?  Or perhaps the Omanis, who have been key middlemen in the deals leading to the release of American hostages?

What sort of deal?  Many are possible.  What if the Iranians, the real rulers of Syria today, offered to betray Assad, replace him with a military junta under their control, and organize a peace conference if the Americans lifted unilateral sanctions?

Obama would certainly be tempted to delay bombing Syria if he were led to believe that a peaceful rabbit could be lifted from a diplomatic top hat by those new moderates in Tehran, or those proven wheelers and dealers in romantic Muscat, wouldn’t he?

I don’t have an answer to How? or Why?  It’s disconcerting that no one else is even asking.  It bespeaks a lack of curiosity about a major event, suggesting intellectual laziness by the pundits, “investigative journalists,” and the political class.

Nothing new there, you will say.  And you will be entirely correct.  As usual.

UPDATE:  Thanks to Instapundit for linking.  Glenn is the greatest.

UPDATE #2:  Kuwaiti newspaper says the president thought he needed a bit more time to make a deal with his buddy Vladimir Putin.

UPDATE 9/9/13: “Syria: We ‘welcome’ Russia’s proposal to turn over our chemical weapons to international control.”

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Maybe Mr. Ledeen is right and secret cabals have hatched a plan which has the President hesitant. You never can tell what those conspirators out-there-somewhere might be doing.

But Ockham's Razor says to look for the simplest explanation. So here goes:

1) Obama really has no foreign policy experts on his staff. Jarrett, Rice, McDonough are his advisors. None of them are much when it comes to Foreign Policy. Their past mistakes, pivots, spins, even outright falsifications, reveal them to be basically inept at it.

2) Obama really dislikes foreign policy. What he really sinks his teeth into is his domestic agenda to recreate the U.S. in the guise of a banana republic. Most everyone poor and reliant on government programs, except of course for the governmental elite.

3) Faced with serious evidence of chemical weapons used by someone (who is still in doubt), he at first thought he'd have to DO something. But that might impact his ability to strong arm the MSM and those dove-liberals who oppose all military action. He is a canny political demagogue, and he knows he needs these groups if he wants to make any progress on his domestic agenda.

4) So he hit upon the idea, AFTER the British parliamentary no vote, of letting the Congress make the decision. This is his out. Whatever they decide, he is not to blame. The MSM and dove-liberals will continue to kiss his feet.

I imagine Obama thinking and perhaps saying to his closest associates: "Who cares what happens in Syria? As long as it doesn't imapct the midterm elections!"
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Simplest explanation is that Obama is insane and coming apart at the seams.
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Don't drive yourself over the edge looking for rationality when there probably is none, Michael. Like Benghazi, the actions and explanations just don't make any sense and there is no larger meaning. Just confusion, indecision, and the consequences of poor decisions made earlier.
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Well, it's an interesting idea, and one I would certainly credit for a good call but for the track record of incompetence and lying blather this administration has achieved thus far, with an incredible 3.5 years yet to run. If the Obama administration is one of God's little jokes, we've had enough.
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So is Obama a political bungler who just got his ass handed to him by Vladimir Putin? Or is he a political genius who just cut a deal that will disarm Syria without anyone firing a shot?
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I don't think there is anyone in the Obama administration capable of that much foresight.
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http://nyyrc.com/blog/2013/09/something-happened-on-the-way-to-damascus/

As NATO, Russia, and China lined up against Obama, other parties began to speak out as more details about the rebels made their way into the mainstream press. Both sides in this war have committed their share of atrocities, but only the rebels have systematically attacked and massacred the Orthodox Christians. The Bible belt in American has never supported this President, and his relentless assault on religious liberty though Obamacare has enraged parishioners. Catholic organizations have also protested loudly, but it was not until the assumed invasion of Syria to the benefit of anti-Christian al Qaeda elements that the Pope spoke out. Calling for an end to the “spiral of sorrow and death,” he prayed with thousands for peace in Syria and an end to the conflict. But the implication was clear: Obama’s war would make things incalculably worse. Next door in Egypt last month, the Islamist Nazis re-enacted Kristallnacht. (Thankfully, the Egyptian military appears to have that situation under control following a stern crackdown on the Brothers and “Islamist terrorism.”)

First the WASPs and Evangelicals, then the Orthodox, and now the Vatican. So it was that Obama lost Christianity en total. For the first time in history, it can perhaps be written that the American government was at war with Christianity. A stain not to be forgotten. The future will hold whether or not the Democrat Party will die on the hill of Christian persecution and genocide.
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Way back in history, before WWI, weren't there secret agreements between governments that turned out to be quite toxic? Where is wikileaks when you need it? As Mr. Ledeen says, what the hell is going on?
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Just as sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, sometimes bunging is just bungling.
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So, Obama flirts with stating WWIII in order to cut a deal with Putin???

ok, this whole thing is just gettin' weird, as in "Lord of the Flies" levels of weirdness.
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Saudi intel ops makes sense: they are loaded with US dollars at a time the US is about to begin to export oil. They don't want to be left alone there with the Iranians, Syrians and Russians so close to their borders. Makes sense to me.

But as far as Obooboo goes: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes an incompetent is just an incompetent. Let us pray and hope that he does not blow up the whole world.

A message from an American living abroad: folks, please vote a little better next time.
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I didn't vote for him either time.
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Neither did I, but we're stuck with a bunch of uneducated voters who don't know history and think civics is a little Japanese car. They are NOT holding up their end of the equation in American government, on which the entire edifice depends.
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I found this link someone posted and this what is said below make sense . The use of the Dollar and keeping Saudi loyal to its use is KEY to this Whole Mess !

Its becoming clear that Obama has been using the Muslim Brotherhood in a Leverage position to keep Saudi from just walking all over the USA and EU interests by siding with other nations and possibly rejecting the dollar as the Trade currency for OPEC energy resources and trying to keep the dollar relevant in this Mess but Egypt overthrowing the Brotherhood has now moved the goal posts to Syria to try and establish a front for the Brotherhood .
Syrian War is a Saudi Intelligence Operation

http://www.omegashock.com/2013/09/05/syrian-war-is-a-saudi-intelligence-operation/

Has Saudi Arabia been behind the Middle Eastern War on Terror to Use the West and primarily the USA to Take over the Middle East ????
Just moments ago, I saw Secretary of State John Kerry admit that the Syrian War is a Saudi operation. And, I watched him squirm in his chair as he said it, because he KNOWS that this is what he’s admitting. I could hardly believe what I was seeing. Even more, he was tacitly admitting Saudi involvement in other interventions.
For those of us who have more than half a brain, and at least SOME knowledge of the Middle East… We’ve noticed the fingerprints of Saudi intelligence all over what’s going on in Syria. In fact, I was planning to write about the involvement of the Saudi General Intelligence Services (or, Al Mukhabarat Al A’amah) today, when John Kerry went and poured gasoline on my fire. (And, I must say, John, that you really, REALLY looked uncomfortable making that admission.)
So, America will go to war at the behest of their Saudi paymasters. This makes me sick, and it should make you sick, too. This will launch us straight into World War III, and it will be the Saudis that pulled the trigger.
For those of you who keep preaching ‘Zionist Conspiracy’, you are complete and utter fools. Furthermore, you have dragged others down with you, and THAT is inexcusable.
Secretary of State John Kerry said at a House Foreign Affairs committee hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily. - http://wapo.st/1ajCnKA
The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told , in this Video you will hear General Wesley Clark make some outlandish Claims !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk#t=272

Ben Swann Reality Check: What The Media Isn't Telling You About Syria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCBhyzRELLw#t=74



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low IQ president. can't think two things at one time except to pu t Israel in harm's way whenever possible. he's just plain stupid. aren't we proud.
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