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Syria: The Spanish Civil War All Over Again

May 30th, 2013 - 7:01 am

Hitler and Mussolini, who had not previously shown great interest in a military alliance, were drawn closer, laying the basis for the Axis. And the manifest weakness of the free nations encouraged both fascist dictators to behave more aggressively in the future, as our weakness in Syria has so greatly encouraged the Russian and Iranian dictators today.

The Spanish Civil War marked the first global appearance of the Great Appeasement Circus headed for the big tent at Munich.  The Western nations dreaded another world war, and feared their involvement might trigger a broader conflict. They were undoubtedly right, but as in the global war today, once the big conflict was “on” there were only two exits: winning or losing.   As today, the leaders of the free nations refused to see that the totalitarians were bound and determined to destroy the West, and that the only real question was when and where the West would have to fight them. Our leaders today are striving mightily to close their eyes and ears to the acts and words of war aimed at us from the new totalitarians of radical Islam and a revived pseudo-revolutionary Communism. Just as Spain offered a chance to humiliate Hitler and Mussolini, so Syria offers the chance to deliver a deadly blow to Putin and Khamenei. But no American leader seems to be listening to the chants of “Death to America” from Tehran to Caracas.

Barack Obama, say hello to Leon Blum.

Finally, we will no doubt draw some misleading lessons from the fighting in Syria. Certainly the major military strategists of the 1930s did. Both the French and the Russians wrongly concluded that tank warfare was a thing of the past, which rendered them vulnerable to Hitler’s Panzers a few years later. Obama now acts as if traditional military forces are a thing of the past, which may redound to our ruin in the future. If the Chinese come after us, it won’t be the asymmetrical assault of the jihadis, but something much bigger.

Remember your Marx: “Hegel says somewhere that all great world historic facts and personages occur, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.”

UPDATE:  Two great minds working in unison!  My friend and colleague, Emanuele Ottoloenghi, had the same thought and wrote it with his usual acuity:

Also read: The Iranian Stink On The Mess In Syria

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Unless you're trying to say US should support Assad, this analogy doesn't make any sense. When the dust settled, Franco's victory turned out to be victory of the Good. He stayed out of WW2, he turned a blind eye to jews illegally fleeing to Spain (and continuing through the ocean to the USA) from nazi-occupied lands, his economic policies resulted in Spanish Miracle, turning it from the poorest country in the whole Europe into the first world economy. And if you're wondering what would have happened in case of the left's victory, North Korea gives a good impression how small poor marxist countries fare.
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There are only two choices in Syria.... Assad or Al Qaida. Not a pleasant choice but we can count on Obama to make the wrong one.
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Michael, you misjudge Obama by far. His intent from the beginning has been to erode American power and economy as much as possible and to ally America with Islamic radicals. He is not fighting Al-Qaeda but for appearance sake. In reality he is aligning American power with Islamic terrorism as we just saw in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and everywhere else we had influence in. Our policy is in the hands of America's enemies through an election. There is no digging out of this hole, but there will be a MAJOR WAR in the immediate future regardless of our actions in Syria.
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if there's a parllel to be drawn, it's with the Lebanese civil war of seventies to the nineties, so that's mean that Syrian civil war will last too, until the combattants get worn out.

We can't do nothing, as external players, that would stop people from slaughtering each other, except by invading them, since none wants to, we just have to pray for that the fighters get tired the sooner the better

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War
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parallel
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What is similar is that there are no good guys to back in this war just as there were no good guys in the Spanish Civil War.

Suppose two subordinates of Bin Laden and their supporters began fighting over who would lead the evil organization to destroy America. Would we back one side against the other? Are we going to choose sides in the battle between the Crips and the Bloods?
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I simply disagree with your analysis...The USA (executive branch under Bush and now Obama) and Russia are masterfully bringing about exactly what they want: "a nice long lasting war and sell lots of weapons"....like in 1973; Israel will again be the testing ground for the latest generation of weapons (you finance both sides of this war every day at the gas pump...a market condition implemented in the 1973 Weapons Deal: aka: "Yom Kippur war") The Commuless Moscow Weapons Company aka Russia, is thrilled to see as many jihadies as possible killed in Syria, but The Commuless Moscow Weapons Company's real goal is to destabilize Turkey and to get rid of Erdogan, who they see as a threat to their free & safe passage through the Bosporus...
That the west does not bury dead the Jihadies in "pig skin" is prima facia that the West has no interest in anything other that "a nice long lasting war and sell lots of weapons"...and certainly no interest in winning...
Brazil is: "ethanol" energy independent...but Americans think "it" is a btu "thang" or maybe Americans are sure that physics are different south of the equator; so while all the cars n Brazil: Toyota, GM, Ford et al all come from the manufacturing plant running on ethanol and all the filling stations sell ethanol with no gas in it...."it" can't be done! all the trucks in the USA run on natural gas and fill up at the thousands of natural gas filling stations, but that would mean the collapse of oil prices and the easily manipulated 7th century ethnic masses would not have oil money to beat us with....so no trucks on natural gas: only possible ti conclude the USA policy is "a nice long lasting war and sell lots of weapons" (c me 1991) and I delivered that exact phrase to every member of congress in 1991 under the heading: "Syrious Business"..."We will have a nice long lasting war and sell lotttssss of weapons"

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Huh? American Ethanol consumes more energy than it produces! And why would Obama want to support the American arms industry? And if you have proof that the US was so smart in 73 (as opposed to the actual idiocy of trying to get Israel to half-lose a war, almost resulting in a second Holocaust), I would like to hear it.
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Unless you're trying to say US should support Assad, this analogy doesn't make any sense. When the dust settled, Franco's victory turned out to be victory of the Good. He stayed out of WW2, he turned a blind eye to jews illegally fleeing to Spain (and continuing through the ocean to the USA) from nazi-occupied lands, his economic policies resulted in Spanish Miracle, turning it from the poorest country in the whole Europe into the first world economy. And if you're wondering what would have happened in case of the left's victory, North Korea gives a good impression how small poor marxist countries fare.
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Quoting the Great Pavan: "Here's my advice to the Obama Administration. Work on a secret agreement with Russia for each Muslim country. The US will arm one side and the Russians will arm the other. Then we all sit back and watch them wipe each other out."
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That's both very flippant and very dangerous.
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Especially if you are sitting within missile range, as I do.
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"Iranian Stink On The Mess In Syria"

And John McCain stink in the mess in Syria as well. A whole lot of stink going on. Maybe it could all be settled by wackobird John McCain and wackobird Mahmoud Ahmadinejad having a dual. Whatever happened, America would be the better for it.
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There are only two choices in Syria.... Assad or Al Qaida. Not a pleasant choice but we can count on Obama to make the wrong one.
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John McCain already has.
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At the end of the Spanish Civil War there was still Spain. At the end of the Syrian Civil War there will not be a Syria because there's nothing organic about Syria, it's an Anglo-French construct. It might be in the interest of America - clearly not the same as the interest of Obama - to make sure that a Kurdistan is born out of the shards of Syria. There will also be a sliver along the Mediterranean that will remain Alawite and another sliver that will be a separate Sunni state or a part of whatever becomes of Iraq (another construct that cannot last). But since horrifically Obama is our prez it is best that America stays out.
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Syria is actually most of the Biblical Arameas (Aram Tzvah, Aram Damesek (Damascus), etc.). They seem to have split the area among Biblical lines (except that Israel does not own Northern Jordan).
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Thank you for an intelligent opinion. Even a stupid Joe Biden saw at one time that Iraq was better off partitioned into its ethnic and tribal regions. The Turks need to be pushed out of Kurdistan just as much as the Iranians and the Syrians. All Muslims being evil anyway, let the Kurds have their own piece of Hell.
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Right now it's terrorist vs terrorist which is good. The problem is, the terrorists are winning.
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