The CIA Goes to the Movies
Those who can still think logically will notice that the last, very compound, sentence is in conflict with the first two. The first two say that it is “false” to suggest that enhanced interrogations “were the key to finding Bin Laden.” But the last one says that question “cannot and never will be definitively resolved.”
What’s going on? It’s pretty obvious that CIA is pre-emptively distancing itself from the next attacks on Americans. When they take place, the CIA wants us to know “it’s not our fault.”
It’s especially silly since the terrorists aren’t bloody likely to want to call attention to the successful operation that killed one of their heroes. Zero Black Thirty makes US look good, after all. We tenaciously hunt him down, while they break and give us the information that dooms bin Laden. You think our enemies want the whole world to see that?
I don’t think so.
I think they need to spend more time defeating our enemies, and less writing convoluted movie reviews.
I haven’t had any real confidence in the CIA since Felix Leiter retired
Wasn’t that after the shark attack?
Of course, he was played by a different actor every time.
That’s because “Felix” is a code name for an assignment, just like “Bond”. When one falls, another takes his place. He’s outside your house and he’s watching you right now…
Guess what? This is not the first time, nor will it be the last, that heads of gov’t bodies have gone to the movies for ‘educational’ purposes. Say what?
Gen Dempsey, Petreaus too, Huma Abedin (gal pal Hill too)etc went to see the opening of ‘Argo’, arguably to give it their ‘kosher’ stamp of approval. This Israeli blogger kids you not – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/14/hollywood-liberals-their-cozy-left-wing-political-relationships-protecting-islamic-interests-huma-abedin-plays-ben-affleck-like-a-fiddle-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
The U.S. has gone off its axis. Its rocker too, ever since the Radical/Islamist-in-Chief took over the ship of state.
and when Jack Ryan left.
and when Maxwell Smart hung up his shoephone for the last time.
“I think they need to spend more time defeating our enemies”…..
When I first read that I read ‘defeating’ as ‘defending’. Strangely enough, I didn’t even find it ridiculous.
I have told many of my progressive friends that, if a terrorist country strikes the US with a WMD, it will probably be in a progressive city and that the weapon will have no return address. Unfortunately, the CIA has long preferred academic types whose understanding of reality is, well, academic! The management of the CIA has always been politically sensitive to the President. In the case of Bush 43, they were willing to subvert the CIA reports to lie about Iraq’s WMDs in order to help elect a Democrat opponent of Bush. This politically sensitive position was against Bush 43 because the CIA, along with many federal employees, is a progressive, anti-freedom, anti-American organization!
…more like 50 miles offshore.
They fed Carter bogus oil reserve data..et al
…in duck theory, the case could be made they are the marketing team for weapons sales…unbeknownst to the high level operatives;
Back in 1982 the CIA said that the East German economy was strong and that that Socialism was a viable economic system.
Reagan intuitively knew they were wrong.
Well, that’s what the Agency gets for hiring all those Ivy League grads who unquestioningly believe their Leftist professors.
. . . if a terrorist country strikes the US with a WMD, it will probably be in a progressive city. . ..
Well that narrows it down!
Bragging that it took you (CIA) ten years to find (“the mercenary marketing director for various government owned weapons manufacturers** that parades as religious*”) Osama bin Laden is almost humor…
…but wait there is more: we are supposed to be “beholden” to the current fearless leader for sending other people to kill Osama bin Laden (While Obama stayed on the golf course); and not bring him in for interrogation…
How about we nick name him: “take no prisoners Obama”…
• *No English definition of: “religious” could include flying civilian jets into civilian buildings…
• **Al Qaeda, like the KGB, sole function is to promote weapons sales, by manipulating ethnic masses, generally to oil rich nations that can be sucked dry of their oil profits. Yes, 7th century leaders, all of who fanaticize about being king of the mid-east, are easy to succor into buying weapons for manufactured wars. Al Qaeda and USSR deliver slavery…
Better that Bin Laden was taken out than taken in for interrogation. If it’s intel we wanted, the Seal Team collected skads of it from Bin Laden’s compound. Analyzing them would have taken a while, but if properly exploited could have provided a lot of actionable intelligence of the sort that could have allowed the US to take down much of the AQ network. But no, the President had to announce *that day* that OBL had been taken out, thus prompting much of the AQ network to scatter.
Seriously, did we really want Bin Laden turning a future trial into a circus, or the enormous expenditure for security that would have entailed? And how long until justice could have been carried out? The US has had Khalid Sheikh Mohammed for close to a decade, and he has yet to go to trial.
I’m on a conspiracy theorist on the issue, I believe it was Osama that was shot, but Obama’s actions of having him buried at sea were certainly very suspect. It sent a message to other Muslim whackos that you’ll still get your 72 virgins because the stupid Americans will respect your religious burial rights, even after your mass murder and attempted mass murder. I think we should have paraded his body through the streets, but that’s just me. Those type of tactics are of a bygone age.
…that they are not buried in “pigskin” is proof enough that the goal is “a nice long lasting war and sell lots of weapons” c me 1991…
like it is hard for Islimic terrorist to recruit when all their dead are publically buried in pigskin and their captured sleep on pigskin…with pigskin everything…
We should’ve publicly made more out bin Laden’s massive porn collection and buried him badly… see what happens when you fool with haram stuff, eh?
Sorry, I think they blow up enough children with drones.
I’d rather have them do something useless like this.
They should reveal secrets accurately or not at all?
That’s about like Maxwell Smart asking, “How do I know this microphone isn’t bugged?”
The CIA has gone rouge!
General Wesley Clark: Because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11.
About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=player_embedded
Hillary Clinton Admits the U.S. Government Created al-Qaeda Published on Apr 10, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZK6SVlQ1Y&feature=related
gone ROUGE??? Langley’s a red state now? somehow it fits with the loony Gen Clark and the silly ‘we created AQ’ stuff…
True point. They have always been rouge! The CIA has long dirty list of deeds and experimentations on the American public dating way back in the early twentieth century.
it didn’t exist until 1949…is that “way back in the early twentieth century?”
Here is what I was referring to. They do have dirty hands, and are not needed in a free society! The Constitution is the supreme law of the land! Right?
The 13 Most Evil U.S. Government Experiments on Humans The U.S. Government has been caught conducting an insane amount of vile, inhumane and grisly experiments on humans without their consent and often without their knowledge. So in light of recent news of the U.S.
http://www.ranker.com/list/the-13-most-evil-u-s-government-experiments-on-humans/robert-wabash
washington, try to stay on-topic, ok? there are plenty of blogs where you can indulge your fantasies. half of these stories are fantastic.
That wasn’t nice Michael, but I like it
Washed brain, you mean “American’s benevolent influence on humans?!” At least, that bad country has brought FREEDOM SUNSHINE into the lives of hundreds of millions of oppressed nations on this Planet! Right?
The United states of America is a Great country, remains the Greatest country in the world?
We require the shade of James Jesus Angleton to chime in here.
JeremyR please help me to understand what you are really saying here.
1. Are you saying that when a person, an enemy combatant, an entity by the way with no legal standing in international law, plans, aids or carries our a lethal attack on a community, presumably containing children, that that community attacked may not retaliate if and when a child might be or will be injured or killed?
2. When the said person above, involved in the said actives then decides to surround him/her self with family and their children are all options of defense off the table? Are we to be hostage to, left without defense options, because of their decision to act hostilely and then to put their family in harms way?
3. Children? If it were children we were after than we would bomb schools; what few they allow to exist. Do you have information that we do? May we be privy to it?
4. A friend of mine who used to teach school took his class to the top of the World Trade center as part of their field trip to New York, missing the “man made catastrophe” by three years but if not are their children worth more than our children? Will you share your finely wrought calculus with us that allowed you to come to that conclusion?
5. But you see drones are the perfect weapon when dealing with ‘enemy combatants’; asymmetrical warfare. EC “mask” as the jolly green grocer, go home to their families on Monday and Tuesday and then attack you on Wednesday with a bomb. Now you see um and now you don’t but you see the dead. The drones, well, are the perfect asymmetrical response. Drones allow you to track and evaluate, remove the mask, and eliminate with a small thirty pound warheads. The hidden ‘hunters’ become prey to hidden hunters.
6. Wait! Maybe you don’t like who gets on the targeting list. Do you know a more full proof method? I, myself, am not very easy with the targeting an American citizen in what, Yemen, without trial but laying that fact against another 9/11 I find I have to swallow it.
7. Probably you don’t disagree with anything I’ve said here but if you do I’d love to hear from you.
Peter, you’ve already expended more energy than the gentleman’s comment is worth. Suffice it to say that we’re so far in the “right” with how we’ve conducted our retaliation for 9/11 + ensuing (and preceding) fanatical Islamic aggression, that only people without a knowledge of history could complain. Of course that leaves about 99.9% of the Population who have no knowledge of WWII or a feel for the kind of numbers of people who were killed one way or another in that war.
My guess, without looking at the numbers, is that if we counted the deaths caused by all our drone attacks they would still only amount to a rounding error when it came to a single night of an American fire-bomb attack on a German city in the closing months of the war. (Attacks which both myself, and my Mother — a German who lived through said fire-bombing — both fully understand and would never criticize).
My Mother ultimately converted upon marrying my father, a Brooklyn Jew, in case those of you who “know” me were wondering…
I know and you’re completley right. I started a short reply but then got carried along on remembering all the “baby killer” posts I read over the years.
I’m reluctant to say this (but this is one of the only places where I feel it at least *safe* to say it and not have my “allegiance” to the USA questioned) — that being: Can one *ever* imagine the Mossad acting in this way?
Now, sure, I’m aghast at how at least one of the *ex*-Mossad heads has conducted himself in public with respect to Netanyahu’s fight with Iran — there’s no excuse for some of his statements. But at least that was in the thick of a *real* battle — indeed, an existential battle — and ultimately, words from a civilian.
Here though, we have the bending over backwards to not be blamed for possibly being the cause of the next every-minute-a-Muslim-riot. It is indeed embarrassing Ledeen, you put your finger right on it. It’s part and parcel of the modern phenomena of hyper-self-consciousness that the apparent 5+ hours a DAY of average TV/video watching per American has helped create. I wonder if MI-6 behaves similarly?
Like it used to be for the Mossad (and possibly still is) — one’s acts should speak for oneself. Indeed, I remember vividly the incredible licking of the chops which occurred when what’s-his-face was assassinated in the Dubai hotel — those licking of the chops being, ostensibly for the imminent downfall of the Mossad, or at least for having a sheet pulled back to expose it. It must have been difficult for Mossad to stay silent in the face of all that.
But no comment, no movie, just silence, and nothing happened. This (apparent success story — we *still* don’t know) in comparison to our CIA. Can you imagine Bin Laden being killed and *nobody* taking credit for it! Just silence. Sigh.
I’m told by a source that I may not reveal for comedic reasons that when Mahmoud returned to his hotel room in Dubai he found twenty-one Mossad agents masquerading as maids and other customer service personnel.
Reputedly he exclaimed, “Wow, what customer service, I never expected to get this kind of attention.”
They smiled.
I *love* it! I absolutely love it.
yes. sigh. if Angleton were still alive he’d burst a vessel…
Anyway you could get your ouji board out again and ask Mr Angelton what in the hell is going on? As I posted below, my only hope is that the CIA is running one very well run disinformation campaign. The real CIA is a secret cabel of ordinary men and women who go out at night and do the work our elite masters refuse to do.
Movie Reviews? What’s next? Dancing with the Stars? That’s not to say I wouldn’t mind seeing Anna Chapman do the Tango.
“Hey, that’s not the way we interrogate people– this’s wrong, this’s wrong and that’s wrong.” Heck, what’s wrong with this picture? I thought secret organizations didn’t publicly correct what people thought they did so that wouldn’t help our enemies. (Golly, how old-fashioned on me!)
A movie review by the CIA!!!!??? This is so lame, so gay, so weak, slimy, bent over and loser that you can’t possibly have made this up – this really is the government of the United States ,now in the hands of the terminally idiotic, preening and self regarding toadies all. A revolution in this country will not be violent, it will be a walk over soft bellied pissants.
I think the CIA should be eliminated in spending cuts. They dont do anything for the US anymore. The CIA is like a 20 year old dog, incontinent, dragging its belly and full of tumors.
Everybody knows that feature films are not documentaries
You, sir, haven’t argued with enough truthers who’ve seen Fahrenheit 911 and think it’s a documentary.
Two more words on the topic.
Oliver. Stone.
Everything he’s ever produced is pure Historical Gospel.
Doesnt EVERYONE know that!?
“As we have said before, the truth is that multiple streams of intelligence led CIA analysts to conclude that Bin Ladin was hiding in Abbottabad. Some came from detainees subjected to enhanced techniques, but there were many other sources as well.”
Notice how the acting CIA director does not list what those other sources that led to actionable intelligence against bin Ladin. I guess the acting CIA director thinks Americans are stupid.
Perhaps the CIA is just one hugely expensive disinformation camapaign. The real spooks are hidden out in safe houses doing out nation’s dirty work while 40,000 fake CIA employees act the part.
Hey Valerie Plame (aka Valerie P. Lame) was a covert operative who, I hope you are not including, as one of those 40k fake CIA employees. sarc/off
It is a SECRET organization NOT media, but apparently they are looking forward to be in the site of channel of selling scandals and trumped-up charges “the nasty BBC”, but in this case on the account of the country secrets that into their hands.
Actually, it looks like they do have a Directorate of Clandestine Cinema Critics, go take a look at:
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol.-56-no.-3/tinker-tailor-soldier-spy-the-movie.html
I guess it sure beats them hiring more “diversity officers” and let the record show that I agree with almost everything this spookland Ebert and Siskel act has to say about that awful travesty of a film.