The October Surprise
At least one element of the Times story is true: the agreement, if there actually is one, is undoubtedly “a result of intense, secret exchanges between American and Iranian officials that date almost to the beginning of President Obama’s term.” Indeed, there were talks between Iranian officials and a representative of the Obama campaign, even before the inauguration. Secret talks between the two countries have been going on for decades, and I do not know of any American president from Jimmy Carter to the present who did not secretly pursue a deal with Tehran. (I participated in such talks in the mid-1980s during the Reagan administration.)
So what is happening? The most likely explanation is that Obama is still desperately seeking his grand bargain, the one that would validate his (and the Nobel Committee’s) claim to be a talented peace maker. That deal is not available, because the Iranians don’t want it. But he wants something to show for his efforts, so he settled for a big nothingburger: an agreement to talk some more.
Even if the story turns out to be true, I don’t think it will help him. “We’re going to talk to the Iranians!” isn’t a very sexy headline.
The one (mildly) interesting feature is why the story was leaked. Did the leaker(s) think it would help the campaign? Or was the leaker trying to stop yet another embarrassing wasted effort?
Give it a few days, maybe we’ll actually learn something interesting. Maybe it’ll even come up in Monday’s debate…
Related:
White House: NYT Report of U.S.-Iran Talks ‘Not True’
What Happened to the October Surprise?
UPDATE: Thanks to Instapundit and to Matt Drudge for the generous links. Welcome, all.
UPDATE 2: The Times changes the story, not mentioning earlier versionn.
Wait for it…”Hey Mahmoud, I’ll have more flexibility after the election.”
“……well look Mahmoud, I a, I a, well I a, want you to wait a little on all this because it’s not an optimal time. I a, well I’d like you to hold off until Michelle and I return from our vacation. Ya se, I’d like to take a month or so off after the media secures my election – a yeah, that’s what I’d like to do, so that’s what I am going to do…”
“after that we can talk, I’d like to redistribute some nukes into the Middle East. I a, I a, I’d like to give you a few and Eqypt a few and I think everybody outta have a few nukes. I, I, I a, I a, I do !”
‘I a’ is RACIST!
9 times out of 10 the one who first says something is racist is in fact…the real racist.
You are absolutely right -great point!!!
Right on!!!!
All those who cry racist is to hide their own racial hate!
You are overplaying your card!
In any event I can’t wait for Romney to win the election and put that shameful, hateful and horrifying period of our country behind us!
Looks like a black man can’t rise above race and rise up to the occasion!
Brassia …”Looks like a black man can’t rise above race and rise up to the occasion!”
Don’t judge an entire gender of one race of people on the basis of the failures of Barak Obama, especially since in reality he is NOT a Black man… he is what we properly call a Mulatto (50% Caucasian, 50% black).
Exactly, you took the words out of my mouth!
But she’s right, Barry is a racist! (plus I think that was sarcasm)
“I, ah” is NOT racist – it is merely a reflection of mouth/brain disconnection, wherein the individual stumbles while searching for words. You will find the “I, ah’s” liberally (no pun intended) dotted among those who often give scripted speeches and when left to their own devices, find it difficult to string a group of words together without pregnant pauses – and believing that the empty space needs to be filled, provide meaningless ‘fill’ such as “I, ah” – Race has NOTHING to do with it, but stupidity and/or difficulty in communicating off the cuff DO.
snicker
perhaps that patchwork of scars on the right side of the back of his head are from
where the implant was done so he gets constant feed from the programs geared to excite certain elements in the emotional make up of the entitlement masses?
If someone forgets to turn on his mind feed he cannot deliver any cogent words.
When the tech stuff is turned on her gets hypnosis loops fed into his brain
so he remembers all those cliches and buzz words and bumper sticker phrases.
jus’ jokin’ here
sure.
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such a child..according to you libturds, ANYTHING said by conservatives is racist..that dog dont hunt no more..go away
As soon as I hear or see the word racist my mind jumps to “Must be another dumb Demo that can’t think for themself. Your racist statement doesn’t mean anything tome any more. It is an over played card.” So all you Demo racist just keep up hte good work off calling everything racist when you don’t even know the differenct.
Maudie, ‘I a’ is the same as ‘I, uh, ‘ – vocal static, not racist. At least that’s the way I read it. Although I DO agree with the other comments about “who brings up racism first is the real racist;” there has been way too much bringing up of racism since 2008.
Maudie,
You are what is wrong with this country. You are an insicious, borderline moron.
You forgot, “aaaannnnnddddd….”
How about, “Let me say this.”
Don’t forget, “Let me repeat that”.
Note that when Obama whistles “s’s” at the end of words… and when his “to” preposition becomes “tuh” he is trying to get audience to believe and love some lie.
It appears Obama learned a lot of Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) tricks from Rev. Wright.
Obama in a formal speech will speak with a high voice, drop down low with a condescending tone and pause. Then he repeats. It’s like a hypnotist’s watch fob. High tone with self-exaltation, low tone with condescending platitude, pause. Repeat until audience is mesmerized. Great NLP shenanigans!
Lastly, note that during the debates, Romney speaks in sort of a continuous melody while talking, and it is not jarring but engaging and somewhat winsome. Obama, when in trouble, speaks haltingly. It is very jarring. The tone becomes insistent: “Believe me, or I will hurt you. Don’t you know I’m from Chicago? Each demigod gangsta must passively and obeisantly acquiesce to his next-in-line higher OverGod, and I’m after all and over all: Emperor Obama POTUS OverGod! You subjects must be the one to shower me with accolades, not I, as it is as beneath me as is everything else is beneath me. Why are you peppering me with questions, when you should be bowing? This insolence’ll be repaid!”
You got him pegged! Spot on!
They have been talking for 10 years, anothe couple of weeks of talks won’t make any difference
I, ah, let me be clear….that is, make no mistake! I, me, my administration has…
Obama agrees to order US Armed Forces attack on Israel and signs non-aggression pack with Iran. Obama agrees to pay $900 Billion in war reparations to Afghanistan. Cuba approved for US Statehood.
Something big is brewing in Chicago. Keep an eye on this.
Weekly Standard reviews Tribune reporters’ book on Blago
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/10/20/weekly-standard-reviews-tribune-reporters-book-on-blago/
It’s called Chicago Ill for a reason.
Can’t someone stop this guy? He is spamming every thread with irrelevant posts about Blago.
Surak
This news will be to big for anyone to stop. My guess is, that’s what concerns you.
No, Whistleblower, it just doesn’t belong on this thread. Look for one where it is pertinent.
Are you well versed on the subject of former U.S. attorney Patrick Fitzgerald?
Obama names Chicago as new US Capital and US Congress agrees to dissolve. UN Peace Keeps moving in to insure peaceful transition. Obama named Protector of US.
Not one to indulge in wishful thinking…can’t afford to do so…living so close to the blow back, here is this blogger’s thoughts on the matter – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/19/is-a-deal-being-cut-with-irans-hitlerite-regime-to-save-the-islamist-in-chiefs-electoral-prospects-smokin-the-free-world-in-the-process-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
Adina, the Times story is not about a deal; it’s about future talks to make a deal. And talks are going on all the time, as they have since 1979.
The Times desperately wants to run a picture of Obama running down the stairs of Air Force One clutching a crumpled piece of paper while exclaiming, “Peace in our time!”
+1,936
Yes I was 4 years old and recall my parents all excited showing me the grimy black and white photo on the front page of our daily newspaper.
No,I don’t think that. It’d be a lot more dramatic to have him standing in front of the Brandenburg gate, with some fake greek columns and a temple. Perhaps a halo?
Michael, indeed. The thing is that the Islamist-in-Chief made sure to save this ‘news’ for right before the election.
Now, rational folks know that this is nothing more than protracted jaw-jaw, and nothing will come of it, as does the POTUS. But those who prefer to live in fantasy land will see what they want to see – a possible light at the end of the struggle with the mullahs.
It is nothing more than a pig in a poke, and surely Jerusalem is taking note.
Libs, that “light at the end of the tunnel” you Obama-zombies are hoping for is actually the Muslin terrorist sympathizer Obama’s train coming at you, loaded with more misery; lost jobs, stifled economic recovery and loss of our Constitutionally given freedoms. Sorry, this great country cannot afford four more years of Obama and, unless you are not a Patriot or are a Socialist/Marxist/Communist, you will agree. Vote Romney/Ryan to avoid the approaching train.
That “light at the end of the tunnel” they’re seeing is the flash from a detonating Iranian atomic bomb.
But, Univision’’s well-respected Jorge Ramos pressed: ““A promise is a promise, and with all due respect, you didn’’t keep that promise.””
My administration will be the most transparent administration, ever
I will close Gitmo
I will cut the deficit in half
By my presidential oath I will protecr U.S. citizens (except in Benghazi
The unemployment rate will not go above 8%
We will have one-on-one negotions with Iran
“Hey, Mahmoud, after the election I’ll start wearing a beard, wearing robes, and quoting a lot of the Koran in my speeches.”
To me the “most beautiful sound in the world” would be Barky saying goodbye.
Well said Lynn.
We have know about this for months. It is simply an election set up, strategically timed. This could have been done years ago. I predict no poll bounce. It is too late.
I agree. I asked my girlfriend who I often use as a sounding board for how voters respond to developments in the news and debate performances, what she would think if she heard on the news that Iran agreed to talks with the US concerning their nuclear program. She indicated that it really didn’t mean a whole lot to her, which tells me that most voters only marginally care about Iran (they don’t want another war, but outside of that not really). What people really care about is will I get a job? Can I keep my job? It really is the economy which has been a nothing performer for four years.
Here’s what’s going on in Obama’s brain right now! “Damn……It worked for Reagan what did I forget? Ok..My October surprise can still work!” “How could I forget this!” As he thinks he calls in his secretary. “Get me Panetta and Petreus on the phone now!” ” Ok guys I need your help.Yes today.I’ll take care of who we use as hostages, you just get that jet on the runway now. Take off in half an hour.”" Yes I’m serious! We’re going to fly into Iranian air space from Iraqi air space by mistake. What? Just blame the IPAD or Bush. Now, they will take the crew as hostages, I’ll negotiate their safe return and again I’ll be the hero like I was with Bin Ladin. Can we get pictures of me in army fatigues this time? c’mon. Ok. Get the plane ready I’ll have the hostages meet the plane at Andrews in 30 minutes, Good bye!” Ok I need to make that conference call now “They’re on the line Mr. President!” Thanks.”Hey Joe, Hillary how things going? Listen, I need you guys to leave right now to a secret meeting in Iraq. It’s top secret so don’t say a peep. Get it, peep, like big bird. Anyway, see if you can get Mitt to go. It’s on me, no cost to him. Great! Flight leaves in 30 minutes!” Now if I could remember what Reagan did to get the economy booming! I’ll just cut off more oil. That should help!
dats kaws heez a idjit.
No news here.
tried that in libya but it went bad. Great set up but Islamo mercs are so unreliable.
Two weeks isn’t enough time to pull that off.
Exactly, last minute desperation. Will President Jarrett give in to the mad mullahs come up with some dough,release sanctions for a couple of weeks in exchange for two weeks of good pr? In a heartbeat! Will it last longer than early Nov.? Never.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that. The Media will make the most of it and will hammer it 24/7 in their effort to save the one. However, I am cautiously optimistic that you may be correct in your evaluation.
This is like a bad George Clooney movie on endless loop..
It never gets any better.
Adios, B. don’t let the screen door hit Michelle in the butt.
Maybe she’ll leave first like she’s done so many times before…
…and a very Big Butt was she!!!
Butt nothin, Getto Onion right outta da garden .
“bad George Clooney movie” is redundant
Redundantly redundant.
This is exactly like the Iranian’s position when Carter was president. They wanted to deal with Carter and not Reagan. The Iranians want to deal with Obama and not Romney, which in effect means they are pulling for Obama…which means Americans should vote the idiot out of office and Romney into office…
the iranians also got so completely fed up with carter, they refused to release the hostages as long as he was president because they wanted to make him look the fool he is. they were sick of the hostage crises, it had gone on for so long, but they weren’t going to release them on carter’s watch.
Of Course they will talk…and talk and talk and talk. Unless our dear leader is willing to give up the farm talk is all it will be. Valery Jarrett !!! AAH… is she really the one you want “protecting” your interests.
If I’m not mistaken Valerie Jarrett is Iranian. Wouldn’t trust her if she was the last person on earth.
The admin has more that enough dirty laundry to give fodder for posts in threads
Dont mislead .
Jarrett is primary op in the WH but she is NOT Iranian
She was born in Iran of AMERICAN parents.
James E. Bowman and Barbara Taylor Bowman.
“After leaving the military Bowman decided to move overseas. “My wife and I decided that we were not going to go back to anything that smacked of segregation,” he recalled. He became chair of pathology at Nemazee Hospital in Shiraz, Iran. “We were recently married, so we took a chance,” he said. “It changed our lives completely.” Their daughter, Valerie, was born in Iran”
Barbara Taylor Bowman;
Co-founder of the Erickson Institute
/en. wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett
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being born in a forgein country means dual citizenship. So she is American AND Iranian. Sounds like a conflict of interest.
A child’s personality is shaped by early environment, parental and physical.
Neither Obama nor Jarrett is ‘American’ in that sense of the word.
Regardless of her nationality, one thing is for sure, she is a criminal and will sell America down the river.
That is not correct. Not every country gives you citizenship if you are 1)born there or 2)retain it if you emigrate and become a citizen in the US. I have dual citizenship because my country of birth allows me to retain it.
The United States does not recognize “dual citizenship”. Of course, we don’t allow four wives either, so……
As a point of interest, the hospital in which Ms. Jarett was born was founded by Mohammad Nemazee (actually it is Namazee), a native of Shiraz and one of the wealthiest merchants in Iran. His son, Hassan, a Harvard alumnus, moved to New York after the revolution and reinvented himself as a Wall Street operator. He was also a founding member of NIAC, which is an apologist organization for the Islamic Republic. Over the years Hassan Nemazee became a major fund raiser for the Democratic Party and was the finance chairman for Hillary Clinton’s presidential run. He was busted for attempting to defraud Citibank and is currently serving a 10 year prison sentence.
Who in this Administration WOULD you trust?
Depends what you mean by trust. I trust every last one of them to put their own political objectives and ambitions ahead of the interests of the United States every single time, but beyond that you’re asking too much.
I would never trust her because with muslims it is o.k. to lie to the infidel–us!
yes, muslims lie. so do christians, jews, buddhists, hindus…you know, it’s a human trait, heh.
When Mohammad sent an assassin to kill two poets that were critical of him, the assassin told Mohammad that he would have to lie to gain there trust. Mohammad said that was fine.
Jesus or Buddha did not act like this.
Yes, it’s true that lying is a human trait. That’s why every other religion but Islam prohibits lying. Islam is the only one that sanctions lying in its sacred scripture.
Actually, deception is common across many species.
The difference is that Muslims are encouraged to lie. All others are encouraged to tell the truth. Taqiyya is their bread and butter in dealing with infidels and that includes obama’s dealings with the USA.
She grew up in Iran, daughter of Communist parents. How’s that for a combo?
Update your story….the NYT updated to reflect the denial of one on one talks by NSC Veitor and the NYT has updated the story to show that instead of agreed to one on one negotiations that the TWO SIDES “AGREED IN PRINCIPLE” to talks! Big difference….the NYT had to update to reflect only the “agreement in principle” and no longer says “two sides agreed to one on one talks” so please update your BLOG!!
In other words…the NYT jumped the gun and now looks stupid. They were trying to give Obama a little gold star to offset Benghazi but instead they look stupid….”agreed in princilple” means STATUS QUO!!
Of Course Israel is invoved right?..I mean they are the ones that want to knock the sh’t out of Iran..The US is just moral support huh?..NIce try Barry,but expect you and Holder will try a little different Falsy before the election,but this one is so stupid it can only hurt you at the polls!
This is Iran’s attempt to help get Obama reelected. PERIOD! They are afraid of Romney in the White House because he would back Israel taking out Iran’s nuclear capabilities. They will make the gesture and maybe have an actual sitdown, but if Obama is elected to a second term, they will scrap anymore meetings and go back to what they are doing. Don’t be fooled by this. This is evidence of Obama’s failed foreign policy in the middle east, not his success….
I agree 100%, I just wish all voters would pay attention and vote for the candidate most likely to right this heavily listing ship of our country. Sadly, too many voters are not informed, misinformed, vote family party regardless of who is running, or pick a minor topic such as birth control, to choose the person that will run our country for another four years. we need someone who understands financials, who has created jobs, and is a patriot who truly loves this great country. We cannot afford four more years of Obama. We know he thought he was speaking privately to Medvedev when he said he will be more flexible after the election…what do we think he will negotiate with Ahmadinejad? Yes, I believe, among many of Obama’s less than endearing traits (constant deflecting of blame, apologizing for his perception of America and all our wonderful accomplishments, he’s penurious unless spending taxpayer dollars, suspicion of money-laundering i.e. how campaign contributors got millions of taxpayer dollars, then gave Obama even more), he is a terrorist sympathizer. Oh, almost forgot, he’s a master obfuscater, it’s damn annoying to me that he NEVER gives a straight answer; the debates were a joke.
The October surprise is a drone attack on people the Democrats will claim are the killers of our Ambassador et al. They could listen to the attacks while they were ongoing, they had live VIDEO of the attack and very likely could have watched satellite video either live or recorded (yes, that works even when you are NOT recreating that scene from Sum of All Fears for your “i got binladen” highlight reel). HOWEVER, it still took them 2 – 3 weeks to be “sure, positive, no kidding” that there wasn’t a mob scene demonstration going on before the attack…..duh. BUT,(oh, HI, ‘chelle) BUT they will be able to track down those killers JUST in time for the elections. A-MAZE-ing.
Mr Ledeen is one of the few newspeople in Amererica today. He is not a shill for the left or right and simply reports the news; Mr Ledeed does what newspapers use to do; and what we would like to think TV news does.
He does what newspapers used to do and we wish tv newscasters would do?? He lets dogs and caged birds Poop on him???? GROSS…..
In other words, move along? There’s nothing to see here?
WND reported weeks before this deal that a highly placed source in Iran got out the information that this deal would happen as an October Surprise to help Obama win the election.
This may explain why the Obama whitehouse did nothing to help during the “Arab Spring” uprisings inside of Iran. Apparently Obama has been cozy with Acmenanutjob for quite some time and thought that he might need his help later with the religious leaders.
Obama didn’t encourage the Iranian protesters and hasn’t made any serious effort to intervene in Syria because those governments are fundamentally anti-American. He did intervene in Libya and pressured Mubarak in Egypt because those governments were fundamentally pro-American or at least not anti-American. He seems to believe that if a foreign government is pro-American they deserve to be overthrown, and he will help or at a minimum see that the US government does not intervene on their side. It’s one of the reasons he has been so very cool to Britain and why he abandoned the missile shield in eastern Europe; he is attempting to break up any alliances we ever had with anybody so as to leave us friendless in the world. It’s not an unintended consequence of his actions, it’s the INTENDED result.
Huh?
Good analysis, even my friends and family in Europe are of the same opinion. Plus it fits right in with Alinsky’s rule for radicals.
Valerie Jarrett?! Holy crap, he actually sent his mommy?! Well, Doha is a golden city.
Yeah right! The Israelis are going to heel because Barry tells them to!..Somebody should tell Chimp Face in Iran that they will get attacked quicker if this is really true..They are probably warming up the jets as I type!
Oh yeah..Don’t forget! we should all Vote for Obama because Iran likes him better..what?..I would laugh,only what’s going on in Washingtoisn’tnt funny anymore!
“…Burns, who was Condoleezza Rice’s top negotiator with the Iranians, actually believed he had negotiated a “grand bargain” with the Iranians in 2006. The Iranians would suspend nuclear enrichment and we would lift sanctions. Except that the Iranians failed to show up for the signing ceremony at the United Nations, and Rice and Burns sat in New York waiting for the Iranian airplane to take off from Tehran. Apparently Mr.Burns didn’t learn the obvious lesson”.
Burns would have learned more about the Iranians and their proxies if he had made a few trips with the U.S. Army into Sadr City circa 2006/07.
Really disgusting to think about operators such as Burns living the high life while American soldiers were shredded by Iranian EFPs.
Apparently, Romney is the man that commands respect from the Iranians. They have been kicking sand in Obama’s face for 4 years, and they know that they can easily manipulate the naive President. They will do/say anything to keep Romney out of office, as they know it will be the end of their tyrannical regime…..
LOL….it is the economy stupid…..Iran and US agreeing “in principle” for talks…not one on one or a timetable….lol
Come on ladies and gentlemen…this story already fell apart. Obama now looks stupid….did they meet secretly behind Israel’s back? The Nut from Tehran just what 14 days ago calling for the utter destruction of Israel? Come on…the NYT jumped the gun and now has egg on its face.
They broke with “agreed to one on one talks”…now they have had to change to “agreed in principle” to talk….and this now makes Obama look desperate and lost! I mean what he is doing sending people to talk to Iran? Iran WILL NEVER give up their Nuclear anything just like that..LOL…anything they say is garbage….but you also have to love the “after the elections”..implying only like it matters with Obama…I mean it is a joke and so transparent. It flopped already!
And it will be the Economy that decides who people vote for..again and again…always the Economy. This one way or another will make no different to people’s economic well being which is how they vote! Funny how Obama never wants to talk about that…maybe he can talk about the CBS story about the UNMANNED DRONE that hovered over Benghazi the night of the attack after it started and DID NOTHING TO HELP!!
This is really getting more and more pathetic:
Here we have a president, who is so desperate for re-election that he has Jarrett and another assiociate going to Iran begging them to assist to come up with some type of fluff to pull more wool over the eyes of americansand, yet – he has no time, not interest at all talking with Bibi Netanjahu?
What is wrong with this picture?
Everyone needs to watch 2016……it is an eye opener and fully expains what an antiamerican Obama is and why he has no intention to stop Iran from getting nukes…his goal is right the opposite….he wants to destroy America and this film fully explains what a communist, anti-colonial bigot he is and why he has to be voted out in 2016.
Love this film I’ve seen it 4 times already!!! (twice at the movies, and twice on dvd)
my wife and I loved the movie. We bought the DVD and held a showing at our local library for High Schoolers interested in politics.
The discussion afterwards was an eye opener!
Tell us more about that discussion.
It should be alarming that 18 year old physically mature voters can be counted before they’re emotionally mature. Admittedly, there are variations, but I’m in favor of raising the voting age to something like 26, with the outstanding exception being those younger placing their lives on the line for us while they serve in our Military.
I waited until 2016 was released on DVD. I pre-ordered it and had to pay extra to get it on the day it was released. I advise anyone and everyone to get your hands on it and watch it. It will open your eyes.
The divider in chief has the greatest disrespect for America her people and intends to turn us into a third world socialist country.
Well, this is a convenient announcement. The White House moslem-in-chief is going to talk to the mad mullahs (Iranian moslems-in-chiefs) and get everything straightened out. I don’t think so.
This is why this is silly….
The whole game plan on Iran is supporting the Israelies in the attack..(Which will happen no matter what one day)..Soooooo! Any freaky deal by the United States is really telling Iran they wont support Israel when they start creaming their Sally a**..right?
I feel like the President is Willy Wonka and the Umpa lumpas are singing!
Obama is a coward…he could never make a decision to put these A holes out of business….he is one of them. we are doomed….
Well by all means this news means that we, as a nation, should re-elect Obama for no way can we think that any other President could have negotiations with Iran. I think though that a realistic statement is that any other President, other than Obama, would be feared by the Iran Government. I don’t think Iran respects, fears the current administration and considers us far weaker with Obama as President. And they have very good justification to believe as such. At least in my opinion.
what is this some kind of joke? Who cares what Obama does. He’s a flake
• Come on …Seriously …The future of the free Republic is riding on …Valerie Jarrett …Negating…O my God…The same idiot that brought the communist Van Jones into the White House ..These Muslims nut jobs must just laugh all day at us. Good grief a idiot like that ..What she thinks that dealing with these people who want us dead and gone is like getting a Chicago crook at Cook County assessor’s office to give her a property tax break …
Is this why he was so unresponsive when it came to the Twitter rebellion in Iran? It’s Charlie Brown and Lucy’s got the football all ready for the trick.
Iran looked at the polls, saw Romney winning and started crapping their pants.
When the threat of a strike is real they change their tune really fast.
This has been reported on for some time by John Batchelor on his WABC 770 am radio show. Valerie Jarrett thinks this can be akin to Nixon in China and be some sort of huge foreign policy achievement that will cement Obama’s legacy. This White House is crazy and I hope they are booted out in a couple of weeks.
this whole article is out of line and disgusting
Yeah, it worth voting for Romney just to force these mullah to have to figure him out. To force them to have to rediscover where all the new lines in the sand are, painfully if need be.
Of course… “we’ll release the hostages” after Regan is in office, we know we can get away with anything with “Carter”. This is how weak BO is seen in the world. Really, how history repeats itself, they know Romney will be the next US President.
A president who could not protect our embassy in Benghazi, is not one who can protect the world from a nuclear Iran.
Iran is an immense threat to the United States and our allies. The U.S. would be nescient to believe that Iran would abide by any agreement. Iran can not be allowed to go nuclear. Unlike North Korea and other Socialistic leaning countries – Iran’s hierarchy subscribes to a fanatical belief system. The President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, believes he can “hasten” the return of the al Mahdi through mass war. Iran doesn’t need a warhead necessarily to mobilize nuclear material. Iran can easily give the nuclear material to Hezbollah in order to create a dirty bomb some type and drive it or “fly” it into Israel. Iran has already given drones to Hezbollah.
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Talk is cheap. Who would the Iranians rather see win the election as they mast their nuclear arsenal: Obama or Romney? If Ayatollah Khomeini would have released the hostages prior to the 1980 election, Carter may have been sworn into a second term. There are no coincidences in politics as timing of this announcement reeks of desperation by the Obama administration. Doesn’t surprise me one bit.
100% on the money.
V. Jarrett is of Iranian descent.
She is not. Refer to my thread above. We have many ethnicities in Iran but non of African descent
Speaking of missile defense… I sure do feel safe that Obama stated he would be “flexible.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/20/us-russia-nuclear-putin-idUSBRE89J0EJ20121020
If Romney doesn’t bring up the following points at the foreign policy debate… then he’s doing a huge disservice to himself and the country.
1. Assign the CIA Special Operations Division to identify moderate ideological fighters that are fighting the Syrian government and aid them. We did not create Osama Bin Laden. Osama happened to be part of the same resistance (known as the mujaheddin) that was battling the Soviet Union. Even the Northern Alliance (our allies) were part of this *same* resistance. Shortly after the Soviets fled Afghanistan, a power struggle erupted between the various tribes and factions and the Taliban won out. We did not foster the “seed of democracy” in Afghanistan. We armed the rebels and left. We live in a global world – this isn’t 1944 or 1979. The U.S. Must take an active role in the Middle East for years to come. We must be proactive and clandestine. Trust – but verify. Iraq also recently blocked a North Korean plane destined for Syria.
2. Obama failed to aid the Iranian Green Movement.
3. Demonstrate how our economic woes affect our military and defense capabilities. President Obama asked defense contractors to break the law. The White House Office of Management and Budget counseled defense employers not to issue layoff notices on November 1 and promised to “pay their legal fees.”
See:
http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2012/10/09/obama_asks_big_business_to_break_the_law_99925.html
4. Explain how sequestration was designed to bring both parties to the table. Obama did not exhibit leadership. The “spirit of bipartisanship and leadership” is currently absent in Washington. Romney led in a bipartisan manner in Massachusetts. Our military can not afford to be cut.
5. Obama has missed over half of his intelligence briefings.
6. The war on radicalism is far from over. Iran is an immense threat to the United States and our allies. Iran can not be allowed to go nuclear. Unlike North Korea and other Socialistic leaning countries – Iran’s hierarchy subscribes to a fanatical belief system. The President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, believes he can “hasten” the return of the al Mahdi through a nuclear apocalypse. Iran doesn’t need a warhead necessarily to mobilize nuclear material. Iran can easily give the nuclear material to Hezbollah in order to create a dirty bomb some type and drive it or “fly” it into Israel. Iran has already given drones to Hezbollah.
7. It wasn’t a video that caused the attacks in Benghazi. It was a failed foreign policy. Obama spiked the ball when he should have kept his eye on the ball. Out of all the days in the year… out of all of the days… common sense dictates that you amp up security on 9/11. Especially, on American interests abroad. According to Amb. Steven’s own diary he was worried that he was on a “hit list.” We now know that Lt. Col. Andrew Wood (Special Ops) requested more security. Eric Nordstrom even went on record stating security was inadequate… requested more… and was consistently turned down. He even went so far to describe the bureaucracy within the President’s State Department as the “Taliban.”
See:
http://nation.foxnews.com/state-department/2012/10/10/former-regional-security-officer-nordstrom-taliban-inside-building
8. The United States must stay ahead of the curve in regard to military power. Funds must be allocated towards R&D. Unmanned drones, the Prompt Global Strike Program, and Project Thor are the future. At the same time we must improve the capability of our air and ground forces (See: “The Future Force Warrior” program). We must also work with our allies in developing new technologies. Israel, our ally, developed the self sealing bandage. Israel also helps train our soldiers and prepared us for suburban warfare in Iraq.
See:
http://www.idf.il/1283-12731-en/Dover.aspx
9. Obama plans on downsizing our missile defense. Obama told Russia he would be “flexible” with our missile defense system if re-elected. Russia is not our ally. They are supplying materials to Iran and Syria. We must maintain our missile defense program.
I would give my left arm for us to have a fully functional, deployed THOR system. That sucker is a war-winner.
For those who don’t know, and are too lazy to Google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
An ICBM with a kinetic penetrator payload would work as well;
Put a pyrotechnic ablative coating on the exterior, and the
Iranians could watch red, white, and blue streaks of fire
descending through the night sky to impact on the entrances
to their nuclear facilities – or the residences of their leaders.
Well said, I like the succinct way you laid out the 9 points, justaguyDP. I hope someone in the Romney camp sees it and passes it on. Hearing from some of the more intelligent posters couldn’t hurt.
I recommend the book, “The Bomb In My Garden” which was written by Mahdi Obedi. Obeidi was in charge of Saddam’s nuclear program. He has stated that it’s true the nuclear program wasn’t active at the time of the invasion but Saddam had wanted a bomb since the mid to late 70s (with the Osirak reactor)…and that he personally started up the centrifuge program. Prior to the invasion Saddam made him bury key parts of the program in his yard. He said Saddam was waiting for the UN Sanctions to drop (UN oil-for-food)…all he needed was a tad more funding…and could have produced a bomb fairly quick. Hussein had France in his back pocket. Let’s also not forget Rihab Rashid Taha al-Azawi (Dr. Germ) told the U.S. that their biological and chemical programs could have been started within weeks. At this same time… we had learned that the infrastructure within Iraq was imploding. Now, if Saddam would have gotten a nuclear bomb…and Iraq would have collapsed at this same time…there is no doubt…radicals (like Zarqawi) would have gotten a hold of them.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2967909.stm
I have always been a bit transfixed by the story of Gerald Bull, and how his SuperGuns ended up in the hands of Iraq. Weird stuff.
Oh you people are so cynical.
Our fearless commander-in-chief would NEVER play politics with national security. How does “General Obama” sound? General Obama–the coolest cat to ever wear the uniform. 
Just kidding people, relax.
Or, we can stop deliberately provoking and committing acts of war (sanctions, drones, cyberattacks) against a country our own top authorities state is most definitely not pursuing nuclear weapons, how about that idea?
If our own administration does not believe Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons, why have they spent so much time seeking sanctions?
Another trial balloon that team Obama floated on the complicit NYT.
Whether its true or not true Obama thinks its going to help get him elected.
The complicit TV media will report it as if its true, again confusing more people to think that Obama is just on the cusp of a break thru with Iran.
But you see it won’t ever happen, if it gets brought up Obama will say that he “doesn’t discuss negotiations with foreign countries” which will leave some to think that it IS in the works
Its a scam folks….there are no talks and even if they are, Iran is only trying to stall for time…
they(iran) want the bomb and they want Israel eliminated. All obama wants is to be re-electeed.
Also…
Libya renounced their WMD program(s) shortly after we went into Iraq. Libya provided us with intelligence on other countries proliferating WMDs. I’m still confused as to why Obama exactly took out Qaddafi. If we bombed Libya because of “humanitarian” issues then why aren’t we in Darfur? If we we’re aiding the Arab spring – then why were we absent from the Iranian Green Movement?
http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/32007.pdf
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/1450010/Revealed-the-real-reason-for-Gaddafis-WMD-surrender.html
Who told the NYT about these alleged negotiations? Harry Reid?
No, it was Nazi Pelosi….hahahaha.
She heard it from Susan B. Anthony’s ghost.
She cheats at cards. She owes me money, the bitch!
(Sorry, channeling a dead ancestor…)
this is nothing new. dick morris told the same story on hannity radio two days ago. sorry nytimes , your leak has already been leaked
Yes! Here’s the link:
http://www.dickmorris.com/obamas-october-surprise-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/
Not to mention: How does the US confirm that Iran has actually suspended nuclear enrichment? The worthless UN inspection teams? It it was true the Obama campaign would already have released this news and tried to milk it for all it’s worth.
Of course there are many parts of the statements that are false. If Obama said it, it’s a lie. That is a given. There is no truth forthcoming from this illicit Administration. The truth, is not in them. There is nothing new in this. All he’s trying to do here is make it seem as if he’s doing something on the foreign policy front, but he’s not. Well, aside from weakening our presence in the eyes of the world. Kissing Muslim butt or hanging around with his buds in the Muslim Brotherhood. What they don’t address is items like Egypt seeking nuclear help now from Iran. Doesn’t sound like Iran is real interested in talks, one on one, or otherwise.
Romney could easily corner him Monday in the debate about these alleged negotiations.
“Valerie Jarrett and other U.S. officials” What is her title? Svengali-in-Chief?
One and two are a given.
The possibilities!
1. President – Mitt Romney
2. Vice President – Paul Ryan
3. Secretary of State – Marco Rubio
(Currently, a member of both the Committee on Foreign Relations and Intelligence.)
4. Department of Justice – Rudy Giuliani
5. Secretary of Defense – Admiral William H. McRaven
6. (a)Director of National Intelligence (DNI)
(b)Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (D/CIA)
(a) Fire James R. Clapper. I would consider John McCain.
(b) Keep David Petraeus.
7. Department of the Treasury – Any competent individual that subscribes to Milton Friedman’s philosophies.
8. Surgeon General – John Barrasso M.D.
Romney should not pick any member of Congress if that pick would place control of either the House or the Senate in jeopardy.
3. Secretary of State – John Bolton. That would definitely change the entire perception of US foreign policy from the direction of the Obama years. He’d probably have to fire half of Foggy Bottom, but as far as I can tell, many of the lifers in the State Department are more worried about the welfare of the countries they work with than with the welfare of America, and that’s very dangerous. It seems to be a nest full of vipers down there. I’m sure it’s not universal, but there are too any of them that suffer from a kind of Stockholm syndrome.
^^^ /WIN!!! ^^^
Hell, yes.
Get some blue-dog Senate Democrat from a state with a Republican governor and appoint him as UN Ambassador. It’s a prestigious but meaningless position, and it will let us pick up an extra Senate seat.
Please no McCain in any WH administrative position. He is a flake, too old and untrustworthy. And we don’t need a surgeon general, that is the most useless position and fails to add value.
In my fantasy I would combine 3,5 and 6 into one uber-department and have Michael Ledin as its Czar (Czarstein?)
Ledeen. Sorry, typo. Too much vodka
Radish, how many times do I have to tell you? RED WINE. Not vodka.
If US voters are stupid enough to fall for this after seeing how “talks” turned out with NK and the last few years of dealing with Iran, we deserve the nuclear war we get.
Edited…
7. Add Hazlitt to the “philosophies.”
“An administration that can barely bring itself to fly air cover in Libya, and can’t bring itself to take any serious action in Syria”
This tells me all I needed to know about Mr. Ledeen. Obama’s actions in Libya were not authorized by Congress. They were in point of fact blatantly unconstutitoinal. So Mr. Ledeen is speaking out against Obama for not taking his unconstitutional behavior far enough, and not only that, but for also not jumping into Syria, which likewise Congress hasn’t authorized? Seriously?
Mr. Ledeen, perhaps you should have studied American history instead of European history for your PhD.
I happen to agree with you and I wish Ledeen hadn’t said what he did. The attack on Libya was totally unconstitutional and so was killing Ghaddafi, even though he was himself a criminal. He was Libya’s criminal and nobody asked the US to intervene. Why not also take out Assad I ask myself? Something doesn’t add up.
Talk of talks is cheap. So, I cannot see yet what the pitfalls are for Romney.
I am sure the Romney team are suspicious of this and probably smell a rat. Not a necessarily a real rat, but perhaps a fake rat they are meant to chase.
It is too close to the debate anyway for Romney discuss publicly a talk strategy with Iran. Romney doesn’t want to risk letting Obama have a “he said just yesterday…” moment.
It doesn’t really help Obama to have it come up in first place – at least as far as this NYT article goes.
Iran having nukes would add stability to the mid east.
But they dont have them, they are allowing IAEA inspections (in between USraeli sponsored assasinations) and all this hoolah is because we are run by jewish interests, wholly.
We have to stop being Israel’s malevolent bitch.
Some serious delusion setting in there Georgy boy … not to mention complete and utter lunacy in thinking that Khomeini and the likes of Achmedthenutjob are actually wanting stability; when their belief system requires the exact opposite.
Their sole stated reason for developing nukes is to nuke Israel and the U.S.A., thereby increasing the chaos which will hasten the coming of their Mahdi. WE, yes WE are as much of a target for Iran (and the rest of Islam) as Israel. Get real.
Let’s say the report is true, for argument’s sake.
What’s not to like for Iran? Agreeing to talks and then making a visible demonstration of having them, like going to Brussels or Switzerland to be available would raise their prestige in the region, help re-elect a spineless president they helped put in office anyway (by killing as many Americans in Iraq and Afpakia as would cause the homefront to weary of the conflicts and repudiate the policy that sent troops there), further weaken America and its regional allies in the middle east, the subcontinent, southeast asia, and Europe, and demoralize Israel. If, as I suspect, Obama takes American and Israeli defenes secrets to give to the Iranians as a show of good faith, just as Nixon took a pile of American defense secrets to the Chinese as a gesture of good faith, Obama would live up to his instincts to be the president who turned out the lights on what he and his pal Bill Ayers revile as the primary agent of evil in the world. It would further the impression that the US was an unreliable ally ready to throw over any friend for the sake of dubious, if not phantom, concessions from determined enemies. Gosh. If I were the Ayatollah, I’d jump on this offer like a duck on a june bug and go on building our nuclear capability anyway, just like the North Koreas rolled Bill Clinton and Bush 43. There’s no down side for Iran.
If President Obama had not spent the last month, lying to us about Libya he could have already had the Iranian talks, inspected the nuke site and yucked it up at a State Dinner that he and Mamoud were BFF.
Death and Deceit in Benghazi
A Friday night edition of “Special Report with Bret Baier”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIAE6vLct-0
Donald Douglas of American Power:
“A great report. The segment beginning at 22:34 minutes, covering the timeline of the administration’s cover up, is simply devastating.”
@George: We are not doing Israel’s bidding, we have the same interests that they do; we are on the same side. I hate anti-Semitism. Your statement reeks of it. As stated on other messages here, and elsewhere, the mullah’s theology requires chaos to bring the Mahdi. They also state their intentions to destroy Israel. We should be against that and their Shiite insanity.
If the Iranian regime is overthrown what guarantees do we have that next next bunch of fanatics will be any better? Witness the Arab Spring.
There are no guarantees. But at least they understand “We’ll be back!” By contrast in Afghanistan and Iraq we have spent so much time there already that the threat of “We’ll be back!” is not credible. So a simple ‘Cut off the head of the snake!” as recommended by the Saudis, is more thoughtful. Why occupy when you can hack? One week’s decapitation will do more than a decade’s occupation. Its cheaper too.
I think the “October Surprise” will be a drone attack in Libya. If the US can find the terrorists of Benghazi then they will be the target. If the real terrorists can not be located then scape goat people will be the target, and the US will claim they were the terrorists.
Since Benghazi should never have happened in the first place, how would this help Obama? The Democrats are trying to bury Libya, not remind the US of tragedy and all the lies that followed.
Khomeini hasn’t agreed to anything … so there’s NO story. Iran DOES think that Obama is weak though, and they openly state that they have a “friend” in the WH … this NYT story is just a bunch of BS. You bet Iran wants Obama re-elected; because for them, it’s a green light to nuke Israel. The Obama administration(read permanent campaign HQ) is absolutely desperate now; trying to deal with the reality of not only current events, but the certain fall of their dear leader. Remind me a lot of how Hitler went down the tubes; but not before he made sure that millions paid the price. All totalitarianism has the same MO and Obama’s MO is NO different … and he hasn’t come to his senses yet as far as I can see, which is scary. Therefore; our choice is even more important than ever as the reality of an out of control POTUS looms. Anybody notice that Axelrod has a Hitler mustache? Heh!
I have one thing to say Never say “Neville” again!! (as in Neville Chamberlain, if obama thinks he can come to an agreement with Iran, and Iran keeping their end of the bargain, Obama wants to brag more about his booby Noble peace prize.)
Most of the drones don’t watch the news anyway so they will do what they will do. Most conservatives who do watch the news will know that this is an election set up for purely political motives. Hopefully the effort will die on the vine like most things Obama.
Obama and the democrats are so desperate for votes I hope to god he doesn’t use his power to drum up some kind of military action to show he is macho …simply put this president is weak and perceived as such around the world…Iran, Russia, china, N korea, al Queada are all taking liberties and trashing the US….fear and respect is the only way to get things done in World Affairs and Obama believes if we are just nice to people things will work out…that conflict resolution mentality don’t work in the big city and it certainly won’t work with primitive savages around the world…strength will
Just more pre-election hog wash. Jarrett knows her way around in Iran – she was born there.
Really? Is it me or is this just another ploy by the Iranian government to stall until their nuke program is at a war time level? It seems quite obvious that they are doing nothing except stalling and the U.S. government should remove their head from a particular orifice if they think negotiation will work. For goodness sakes, this country’s leader has threatened to try and wipe Israel AND the U.S. with anniliation and we’re negotiating??? Something smells REAL bad and it’s coming from the White House unfortunately.
We must have talks. 300,000 Iranian deaths would not be optimal.
A simple illustration of Parkinson’s Law:
A) Work expands so as to fill…
B) The time available for its completion.
In Obama’s case A = Create the illusion that Iran’s bomb is actually a serious administration concern, and B = November 6. In Iran’s case A = Buy time and string America along while simultaneously shoring up their best unpaid asset in American and B = yes, once again, November 6.
The law always works, but the outcomes are not necessarily predictable.
The obvious story here is that this author has missed the real news story, the Real October surprise is that Washington, allowed Americans to die, because they were what afraid to show force, (lets not offend anyone over there) its election time after all, guns with real bullets might make someone over there mad.
This is something that most of us learn on the playground in grade school, it is something that we learn, by watching wild animals, subservient behavior, provokes predators, it does not calm them it creates the problem you hope to escape.
You dont show your enemy your empty hand, they will lop it off, you show them your ready to fight, even though you don’t want to your ready…
This pacifistic, drivel, is a proven time waster, we know it and anyone that spend any time on a playground in the US as a child knows it, opps, I wonder what that means. ..
“October surprise?” Pleez….the only one that would effect Nov. 6 is something heinous brought out about Romney’s personal or professional life…..the truth of the “surprise” matters not.
I heard rumors that Gloria Allred is working on something like you describe. She destroyed Meg Whitman’s campaign here in CA as well as took out H. Cain. In both cases there is nothing further about the women she used which in itself says plenty about the Allred monster.
Mr. Leeden,
Funny how you lament President Obama’s restraint of using our armed forces in Libya and Syria, two countries that have never attacked the U.S. Or its allies. Your article makes you seem very eager to send our troops to their deaths in more needless military adventurism. How much blood will it take to satiate you and yours? Are the thousands of troops and millions of civilians dead in Afghanistan and Iraq just not enough for you? Any Iran attack k would be disastrous, drawing in other countries and possibly being the spark that causes WW3. Is that what you want? All you bloodthirsty chickenhawks are completely insane.
mickster, you even invent the spelling of my name…I know reading is a problem, but please try harder. I have opposed military action vs Iran for many years.
#69- ⅔ of Afgoniston’s “satiation” has come under Obama’s incompetent leadership and his childish rules of engagement have led to confusion and chaos and emboldened the enemy. Indeed, bring our troops home.
“Funny how you lament President Obama’s restraint of using our armed forces in Libya and Syria, two countries that have never attacked the U.S. Or its allies.”
Apparently, you’ve forgotten that Syria was a main participant in the Arab attacks on Israel in 1967 (Six Day War) and 1973 (Yom Kippur War).
“Those who refuse to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.”
Please, do not feed the trolls.
Mickster (a play on the pejorative for an Irishman?)
“How much blood will it take to satiate you and yours?”
I understand to whom “you” refers. I’m a little unclear however to whom “yours” is a reference to. I could take a guess though.
– FF
“All you bloodthirsty chickenhawks are completely insane”.
If we are all cowardly “chickenhawks” w/no militry service please feel free to post your own DD214 (record of military service and awards) and show us all up.
It seems you are very eager to send our troops to death in more useless military adventurism.
dear millionaire, pay your taxes and report to camp for remedial reading.
We are opposed to talking for the sake of talking while self-declared enemies buy time to strengthen themselves. There is no reasoning with religious fanatics, and any resources we give them INCLUDING TIME will only be used against us. No word of theirs can be trusted, for their religion explicitly approves of lying to outsiders. They want to talk, let them open themselves up to Israeli weapons inspectors, and then we can negotiate.
“Peace in our time!”
If anyone has negotiated with Persians (I have) you learn to respect and appreciate them as very hard negotiators and that only Yes means Yes and then only some of the time. Shame on you if you expect performance of any contract unless there is a meaningful personal relationship between your families or clearly defined costs already secured/escrow-ed or paid at stake. Why? The Qur’an allows for the misleading of enemies and infidels as a means of attaining victory.
Most Muslims are familiar with the principles of Islam that will justify lying in situations where they sense the need to do so. Among these are:
- War is deception.
- The necessities justify the forbidden.
- If faced by two evils, choose the lesser of the two.
Please understand this is listed without judgement. If you have taken the time to build a relationship with Persian business partners or arranged meaningful, powerful security (IN THEIR EYES)- their word is absolute gold. Otherwise, as these principles are derived from passages found in the Qur’an and the Hadith, your agreement may not be, and likely isn’t, binding.
So – I understand the wish to believe that negotiations with the Persians will lead to agreement. Indeed it might. However we must realize that paper is paper and without family ties, opposing strength or escrow-ed cost to ensure it’s enforcement, as the saying goes, “Good luck with that!”
Note that among necessities, it is permitted to a Muslim to deny that he is a Muslim if he will be killed if he is discovered as a Muslim. To a Christian, such an act is the mortal sin of cowardice.
Finally–Yes they are Persians. Not Arabs. Persians first above anything else.
Why is Valerie Jarrett conducting talks with a foreign government?
Why does Valerie Jarrett have a full Secret Service detail at her disposal 24/7?
Who the hell is running our government?
Questions I intend to send to my 3 worthless so called conservative Republican stooges in Congress.
Clowns run the government, Obie can’t fid his ass with his hands unless Valarie or Moosehelle tels him how.
This is obviously another trial balloon by Obie and his Kenyan Clown Circus. They want to see how this plays next week when it is jumped on by Romney in the debates.
Watch Obie as Mitt if he would meet with iran to discuss disarmament.
if this idiot affimative action quota puppet is reelected, Israel and America are doomed.
Everyone, even Obama admin knows this is the Times Story is complete BS> He knows he has dne nothing on Iran so this crap comes out late. Same thing with the Fed reserve/terrorist story. Just things to try to help Obama look stronger; all crap
Don’t believe the lies Iran has no nuke’s and never will..even if they did, like us, they wouldnt be allowed to use them as they require a super-computer to detonate the squib.
Then how did we set one off over Nagasaki, bright man?
Yes plus: Back in the sixties, the US researched the degree of difficulty
of designing a nuclear weapon, and found that a couple of years work was
enough to produce a 50KT fission device. Double plus good: There are other,
easier ways of refining fissionables to weapons grade; Pray that the Iran-
ians are not doing so in secret.
Please, please. do NOT feed the trolls.
Another nuclear physicist in lib clothing.
A Biden clone? Are you so out of touch? Iranians are highly capable people, brilliant scientists and engineers. I admit to knowing nothing about super computers necessary to fire off a nuke, but I am not willing to take a chance. Furthermore, there are the suitcase bombs, you don’t need a super computer to disperse those. If we rely on the same intel that brought us Benghazi, we better start building bomb shelters pronto.
I am not sure what is wrong with people around the globe that vote people into office or lend their support and blind faith so that they can act like dysfunctional children and tyrants. The U.S. is no exception whereby party politics has almost annihilated democracy over the last 40 years so that today it feels like we are living under the Big Brother dominion that is invading every aspect of our lives. The only way to turn the world around is to vote the right people into office, which today no candidate is worthy of a single vote. If you are part of some religious affiliation, organization or group that spews hate, molests your children, brain washes or believes they are special and deserve something more than the next person, then make a change by withdrawing your support. Start talking to your fellow human beings, and begin taking care of one another less we all perish. Since the end of WWII, hostility, war and hate have accomplish nothing, but has become the over whelming force in every blog, posting, newspaper, politician, terror attack, assassination, religious affiliation and pundit review all backed by the money people. Time to think for yourself and turn the world around. It all starts by talking less you want to answer the children of whether some one will drop the bomb or will we have bombs that don’t go boom. Wake up people and see that evil not goodness has a hold of you.
This is great!
Iran will stop enrichment,
Israel can live out their lives in peace.
Obama shall get another Nobel Peace Prize,
and Unicorns will lick his hand.
happy days are here again..
This is Obama’s equivalent to Carter’s eleventh hour revelation of the Stealth Bomber program.
This is just a stunt by the Obama administration/campaign (which is all in the same) to attempt to deflect the subject of Benghazi for tomorrow’s debate. This is Jimmy Carter part two, now more an insult to Carter than to Obama.
Poor Jimmy Carfter. “First as tragedy, then as farce.”
Is this by any chance THE James Herbert Harrison, as in the author who wrote Quest For Power?
We can do that if we can have UN observers at all their nuclear sites immediately. Preferably, Israelis. Otherwise, it is just more show and stall. If Obama wins, no discussions. If Romney wins, real possibility.
I don’t think this will play with most people. Iran isn’t the issue to the vast majority of people, Israel has made it perfectly clear they will do what’s in their best interest so we can’t stop a strike by them (which Jews know), and most people (other thank lib-tards in academia, whose vote is in the bag anyway) think Mahmoud is a complete head case.
We told you so – in early 2010 thru to latest ‘Scoreboard’. The Benghazi cover-u[ is part of a far more pervasive ‘cover-up’ than is even suspected by The Experts: America is so unsuspecting of what is ‘really going on’ – and has been starting with ‘Obama’s’ Arab Spring agenda, and Hillary’s agenda, it is almost humorous, were it not that The Plan is “The Planned Obsolescence of America and Israel” – (see links below)- The Obama Schizophrenic Lie Technique.
http//:boudicabpi/wordpress.com
LINK TO:
“TREASON AND SHROUD; IRAN ESCORTS OBAMA TO WORLD DICTATORSHIP THRU STRAITS OF 2012” Preface
Boudica Scoreboard
“A BOUDICA POINT OF VIEW: Take No Prisoners”
As a run-up to the election, the daily news about Obama gets increasingly sillier. Take this Iranian situation, for instance. Assuming it’s true, the question in my mind is who would Americans trust in negotiating with the Mohammedans currently usurping power in Persia: the down-low Marxist, Mohammedan sodomite who’s currently usurping power in the White House, or a bona fide American who’s patriotic loyalties are unimpeachable?
This is an act of desperation, the election is over! I’m confident because I can read the polls. Here, in OHIO tomorrow, a newly released poll showing Romney surging in OHIO by 8 points, +13 with INDIES, +1 with women. It’s Over!
The government lies. The media lies. ’nuff said.
America’s experiment with socialism is over. Practice with me…”Former President Obama, President Elect Romney”…again, “Former Pres…….
It is being reported this morning that there was a drone on the site of the killing of Ambassador Stevens and his party and the State Department was watching them die in real time. This is horrible, but what is ten times more horrible, is that some military experts are saying that they could have had an AC-130 gunship on site just as fast as the drone. An AC-130 can lay down 1800 rounds in one minute. In Viet Nam when we called for air support, we wanted gunships, rather than fighters, because they did the job.
The experts say that if the AC-130 had been brought in it could possibly have saved the lives of some of the party, or at minimum, made the people who did it, pay dearly for their murderous attack. Why was the AC-130 not brought in?
It was not brought in for the same reason that when Ambassador Stevens was pleading for more security personnel, the Administration actually reduced the number. Obama wanted it to look like he had defeated Al Quada, and thought that it would improve his reelection chances, if he could have an Embassy in Libya with little to no protection.
How can he sleep at night? Could you? I don’t think I could. How could anyone vote for a man that would commit an act this grievous? What is going to happen to our beloved country if he is reelected?
The United States was number one in the world when Obama was elected; we are now number seven. Where will we be in 2016 if Obama is reelected?
He probably sleeps very well. That’s the really scary part.
Reza Kahlili, whom you mention, said that the Obama administration was trying to get Iran to agree to a suspension of the program to enrich uranium. The carrot was that it would help to re-elect Obama, and Obama would be much nicer to Iran and nastier to Israel than Romney. Of course, after the election, Iran could proceed as usual. How come you left this out of the story? If true,it is a major scandal.
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2012/10/reza-kahlilis-discussion-with-john.html
i try to deal with one subject at a time. blogs aren’t books, etc. also, I do not believe that a deal is possible, and i wanted to “remind” my readers that these talks have been going on for thirty years, always with the same non-result.
My common sense tells me that Iran wants Obama re-elected. They will likely announce that they will be entering talks with Obama in order to get that result. It is so easy to do that and affect the election without giving anything at all away. The only caveat would be that they might worry that it would look like an endorsement of Obama and would backfire.
Iran does not want to help re-elect Obama, its ruling elite do. The distinction is stark and only by understanding and intellectually internalizing this divide will we understand why military intervention is unnecessary and superfluous.
Obama’s foreign policy has but one aim: Love us for our appeasement.
Obama is one and done.
‘Give it a few days, maybe we’ll actually learn something interesting. Maybe it’ll even come up in Monday’s debate…’
Michael,
There is nothing to learn here The Chicago Thugs think they can engineer an October surprise that will guaranty the election in their favor. We did see how they handled The Benghazi attack. I’m sure they won’t be able to do a better job handling Iran. Let’s face it neither Obama nor Clinton can curtail Iran’s nuclear ambition and Iran knows it. We all know the Mullahs are paying for time except Obama and his ilks. How ironic that Iran is playing a major role in electing Romney as they did for Reagan 1980. After all history does repeat itself.
This is not the “October Surprise” we have been expecting.
WHY BLAME CHRISTIANITY
For Irish (Catholic) and British (Protestant) Terrorism? and
JUDAISM for terrorism in the occupied territories (Palestine)?
Individuals, not religions,
carry out inhuman acts.
Islam means PEACE and is a religion of peace, accepted and practiced by more than 1.25 billion people worldwide. It is the fastest-growing religion in the world, and if it was what some critics claim, why should the people from all walks of life from around the world keep embracing Islam?
Where is the sword now?
In Islam, a person has the right to defend himself, his family, his country or his neighbor(s), which justifies the resistance being offered by the people of Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Iraq, Kashmir and Palestine, to attacks on their soils by the so-called liberators, who are actually the occupiers.
The Holy Qur’an clearly states that if a person saves one life, it’s as if he saved humanity, and if a person kills one human being, it’s as if he killed humanity.
What is happening in the enslaved Muslim countries is a natural reaction to occupation, bombings, killing and terrorizing of innocent civilians (children, old men and women), rapes, in addition to looting of resources, national antiques and artifacts, above all destruction of property by the occupiers.
Terror breeds terror.
We assure those who bash Islam that if there was no occupation in this world by foreign invaders, there would be no resistance – the so-called terror.
We would like those who criticize Islam to explain the following acts committed by
the Christians on Jews, other Christians and Muslims alike, throughout history:
- Hundreds of thousands of Muslim men, women and children killed by the crusaders, who were Christians.
- Inquisition of Jews and Muslims from Spain by Queen Isabella, a Christian.
- Millions of people killed by the European and American Christians during the two world wars.
- Hundreds of thousands of Christians killed every year by the Irish Christians, including the British and the IRA, both Catholics and Protestants, during the past few centuries. Why are they not blamed to be “Christian Terrorists?”
Both of them believe in Jesus Christ, who told them to turn the other cheek, and both of them believe in the same Lord, Who commanded that “Thou shall not kill.” Period.
- Timothy McVeigh, who bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, was a Catholic.
Are all Catholics terrorists?
Last but not least, explain the bombings, killings, rapings and lynchings of both American Indians and black slaves (Afro-Americans) during the past 200 years
in the United States.
What about them?
Will those filled with hate for Islam blame Christianity for the above inhuman acts
by Christians in various parts of the world since its inception?
If not, then why are they blaming the religion of Islam for what is a natural reaction
to occupation of Muslim countries by foreign invaders?
Most importantly, these folks should know that the three great Abrahamic religions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – have one common basis, and that is one God Almighty.
“All men (and women) are created equal, and we all are one nation under Almighty God,” is a statement according to the Holy Qur’an and is very well elucidated in the U.S. Constitution.
Lastly, yet importantly, as brothers in humanity, we recommend those filled with hate get an education in the history of Islam and Muslims, before they dare to write nasty letters full of personal, ingrain hate and vendetta.
We would be pleased to provide anyone with free copies of the Holy Qur’an and Islamic literature in English, which would help them to understand the truth about Islam and Muslims and get rid of hate from their systems, God willing.
May God Almighty show you the light, Amen.
Another Muslime practicing taqiyya.
There are quite a few unexamined assumptions in your post; these assumptions are fallacious.
First, is your assumption is that only individuals carry out terrorist acts; you ignore their reasons for so doing, even though, you immediately move into what you consider ‘justified reasons’ for ‘inhuman acts’. These ‘justified reasons’ are not examined by you beyond the superficial of ‘if you occupy my land, then, I’ll kill you’.
The terms ‘occupy’ and ‘my land’ are not examined. After all, the whole history of mankind for thousands of years has been the displacement of peoples by other people, the assimilation of people with other people and so on. An ideology does not ‘own’ a land. You utterly ignore the history of Islam. You ignore that it emerged, itself, as a result of the loss of land bases by migrating pastoral nomadic peoples to Byzantine settlements. Islam, a pastoral nomadic economy, emerged as a militant reaction. You ignore the militant and vicious takeover of lands and the wholesale murder of settlements in this early period by Muslims. You ignore the Islamic imperial expansion, when it moved into the West, into Spain, and other countries. You ignore the fact that Islam is yet again, insisting on an imperial take-over agenda, moving into lands in Africa, slaughtering whole villages and insisting that all the people there follow radical Islam and shariah. What land of yours did medieval Europe and modern Africa ‘occupy’?
You ignore that in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Islam, which you call the ‘religion of peace’ is attacking school children and young girls, insisting that they follow this ‘religion of peace’. What have these children done? Have they ‘occupied your land’?
Second, you ignore that Islam is NOT a religion of peace. If that were the case, then the axiom that you declare of Islam only RE-ACTING to violence rather than initiating violence would be the case. But this is NOT the case. Instead, Muslims initiate violence and this is valid throughout history. To declare that they do so, only to ‘get even’ with actions of non-Muslims is an invalid argument, for one can use this invalid regressive tactic to go back to the begining of mankind…and say that ‘that man attacked this man..and so, 3,000 years later, I’ll attack someone’. Invalid.
Third, you cannot, ever, justify the violence carried out by Muslims, in the name of Islam, by the ‘tu quoque’ argument of ‘well, you did bad things, so we can do bad things too’. That is a fallacious argument. And, if you are genuinely the ‘religion of peace’ then, you wouldn’t stoop to such a false reasoning.
Fourth, you do not examine the arrogance of Islam in its declaring that its ideology is ‘the best’ and that all other peoples must follow it. Muslim insistence, even when they are living in non-Muslim nations, that all people ‘must’ follow shariah law is an outrageous arrogance. If you immigrate to a western land, then, you MUST follow that land’s laws and culture and not start to insist that they follow yours.
Fifth, you do not examine the real causes of modern Islamic terrorism, and it IS terrorism, which are economic. You utterly ignore that Islam’s rejection of reason, rejection of science, rejection of individual freedom to think and act, has set up the Islamic nations in pre-modern, non-industrial economic modes. You are quite happy to use the revenue from oil to purchase the inventions of the West: its medicine, its technological advances, its cars, airplanes, cell phones, electricity, trains and etc – yet your rejection of reason and science means that you are incapable of developing such technologies on your own. Why, you were unable to even extract and process the oil; it has always required Western technology and engineeers to come into your country to enable your leaders to have this wealth. Tell us what Nobel prizes have been won by Muslims IN the Islamic nations? Tell us what inventions, what patents, what new technological developments emerge out of the Islamic nations?
But, a one-industry economy, which is controlled by the Rulers, and some of that wealth redistributed to barely sustain the whole population.. can’t sustain the exponential increase in population of the Islamic nations – and, your refusal to modernize, to allow your people to become engineers, scientists etc, to allow your people to develop private small and medium businesses, has imploded your societies such that ideological puritanism is a ‘relief valve’.
Islamic fascism, and Islamic terrorism is fascism, is caused by Islamic ideology and its refusal to modernize its economy and allow its people to earn their own living, advance in knowledge, become successful on their own.
Think about that instead of just spouting empty unexamined axioms.
September 11, 2001 and events immediately after provided me with all the education I need about islam. I still remember the saudi prince (whatever his name was) saying America deserved what happened as he attempted to bribe Americans will a few million dollars of blood money along with the cheering crowds observed in the middle east. Yes, there were a few “muslims” that claimed to be outraged but was is genuine? With events since that date, I doubt it.
Do you remember the other Saudi Prince? The one that gave his favorite horse to America? That told me there is NO Chance of our two cultures EVER getting along.
I wonder what the feds did with the horse? Pulling a cassion at the National cemetery? Alpo? Bush took it for his Ranch?
A great article by the leading historian (Thomas F. Madden) on “The Crusades.” It’s an older article, but it gives context in regard to Islamic radicals in the Middle East.
“While Muslims can be peaceful, Islam was born in war and grew the same way. From the time of Mohammed, the means of Muslim expansion was always the sword. Muslim thought divides the world into two spheres, the Abode of Islam and the Abode of War. Christianity – and for that matter any other non-Muslim religion – has no abode. Christians and Jews can be tolerated within a Muslim state under Muslim rule. But, in traditional Islam, Christian and Jewish states must be destroyed and their lands conquered. When Mohammed was waging war against
Mecca in the seventh century, Christianity was the dominant religion of power and wealth.”
http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/madden/03463.html
Islam does not mean peace. Islam means submission. Jesus Christ is Lord, and the only Judge of humanity. Taqqiya is so abhorrent to Him that he condemns those who practice it to Hell for their cowardice. Yes, Jesus taught that if evil men capture you and order you to curse God, worship an idol, or do any other evil thing or else you’ll be killed, you are morally obligated to let them kill you. Dying for refusing to sin makes you a martyr and you’ll go to Heaven, but committing a sin in order to save your own life makes you a coward, for which you’ll go to Hell unless you repent, and there is no weaseling about not really meaning it. Pretending to commit idolatry is idolatry. Pretending to commit blasphemy is blasphemy. Nor can you just say, “I repent,” but rather you must confess your sin of cowardice.
Exactly. As mythbuster pointed out, Islam does NOT mean peace. Islam means submission.
Essentially, Islamic submission rejects the very essence of what ‘being human’ means. It rejects the individual human capacity to reason, to think, to analyze. Instead, Islam and its rejection of reason, its rejection of individual freedom, insists that human beings are more akin to animals, to ants that must all behave alike, to sheep that follow the sheep dog.
The violence carried out by Muslims against, not only those of other religions, but against those within their own religion who do not follow the radicalism of today’s Islamic fascism shows us that there is not a shred of peace in this ideology.
Furthermore, the poster Anontdh’s claim that Islam declares men and women equal is yet another of his false statements. Women are denigrated in Islam; they are worth ‘half a man’; it is permissable to beat them, to reject them. In Saudi Arabia, women must hide themselves, as if they were carrion, as if they were evil, under black ‘tents’. They are not allowed to vote, to drive, to work, to walk freely in the streets, to become educated. How’s that for equality?
Islam is peaceful? Heh, then why are there so many ‘honor’ killings of women by Muslim men?
Islam is peaceful? Sure. Then why do they shoot girls who go to school?
Islam is peaceful? Sure. Then why do they riot in the streets if they feel their idols or gods are insulted?
Islam is peaceful? Then why do their schools and their imams and mosques preach hatred and violence? Why?
One more thing, we’re nothing like you. If we were, those two reporters who unworthily presented themselves for Communion and spat out the Precious Body and Blood of Christ onto the floor would have been beaten to death before they got back to their pew. Instead, they were permitted to leave without injury. You fly off the handle and kill people whenever you feel God is insulted, but we allow someone who publicly stabbed our God in the Heart to leave in peace, while we pray, “Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do,” and trusting that God will forgive or requite in His good time.
“We assure those who bash Islam that if there was no occupation in this world by foreign invaders, there would be no resistance – the so-called terror.”
Factually and historically inaccurate sir. There was no occupation in 1097 when the crusades started, What there was were Islamic (Moorish) slave raids on European cities. The Crusades were launched mostly as a response to those raids. The cycle of conflict between the West and Islam has been driven by the House of Islam against the House of War. House of War being everyone that is not Muslim. The history of Islam is as blood filled as any other religion and more so then most. Mr. Leeden delets 99% of my posts, because I offer factual arguments that rebut his opinions. So I’m not going to spend a lot of time here showing how Islam is not so much a religion as a Criminal Conspiracy. It certainly has no more then a passing acquaintance with peace. Other then the peace of the grave, which no religion has a monopoly on.
I would like nothing better then for the West to put the Umma in a box and nail the lid shut. That will have to wait until America has disseminated Fracking and deep drilling technology wide enough to make Arab OIL surplus.
Then we can put an embargo on all 800 million Muslims ( That 1. whatever billion number is bogus. Go to either the UN or the CIA and add up their numbers for population. You can only get to 1.3 billion by counting the Dhimmis as Muslim.). With no money coming in from OIL sales or only the little bit from smuggling, the Umma will not be able to afford to buy food. The Islamic crescent plus SE Asia only grows enough food for about 600 million people. When your choice is between starvation and civilization and recognising human rights apply to females also, the choice will be made. Convert or die. I’m good either way.
Haji can’t shoot.
I very rarely delete anything, and I love it when dogmatic critics cannot even spell my name.
Unless you have guzzled the Kool-Aid or believe in the holy spirit of Coincidence, this would be one of the more dangerous moves of political desperation in our history.
Watch Obama will make a deal with Iran to stop their nuke program and he will drop all sanctions on Iran.Just before the Election,But of course their will be no over-site on Iran’s nuke program.And they will continue to build their nuke’s and it would be imposable to put sensations back in place.So once again Obama will put US and Israel in great danger witch will lead to WW3, all so he can try and stay in power and complete his transformation of the US.
We had the chance to “overthrow” their corrupt government, but the obama said the US couldn’t help people asking us to bring them freedom (at least until Lybia came along)
If it is true that the Obama administration and Iran have agreed to talk about possibly lessening Iran’s nuclear ambitions, then that’s a good thing. Only problem is that, OF COURSE, Iran wants the world to think that Obama has scored a big one just SO coincidentally, i.e., right before the election, because it’ll mean that Obama is a great negotiator and president (‘Hey world, look at what I just managed to do without firing a single shot or creating further havoc in the Middle East?’), and that America should vote him in for another 4 years. Good grief — how can anyone possibly think Iran wouldn’t do anything in its power to manipulate world events to affect the American presidential election in order to ensure that the Persian madman not have to deal with Reaganesque Mitt Romney (peace through strength) for the next 4 years? OF COURSE, Iran wants the Appeaser-in-Chief to win the election thereby ensuring a nuclear-armed Iran for us and our allies to have to deal with again.
but Iran denies the story, as does the White House. that story doesn’t help either.
Michael, you answered your own question. The reason for the timing is to take Libya off the discussion table in Monday’s debate. Schieffer now has something to interest him.
Seriously, if Obama can get Iran to agree to stop uranium enrichment temporarily he could get a boost in the polls. He only needs them to stop for 2 weeks! In exchange, he sends zillions of dollars, and lifts the embargo permanently. Good deal, huh? With Valerie Jarett in charge, you know nothing good will come of it.
When they let inspectors in every facility to fully inspect, then we’ll see. Til’ then, more Obummer admin BS.
Would the Obama administration risk announcing, say, the weekend before the election, that it had reached some sort of unspecified agreement with the Iranian regime to curtail their bomb program and then dare the Iranians to deny it on penalty of an Obama angered enough the double down on the sanctions in the unlikely even he ekes out a win? They have nothing to gain from an Obama loss. But are they rational enough to forego the pleasure they would get from contributing in a small way to Obama losing the election? The ego-boosting opening given the mullahs might be too tempting for them to resist.
of course they denied the talks right now its to early it will come out just days before the election in the hopes their wont be enough time for everyone to figure out what a krock it is!
Not only what Ledeen says is decisive (talks have been going on forever and they led to absolutely nothing) but we must also think that four years of failures cannot be countered by anything happening in the next two weeks (short of WW III, of course).
Scandals, wrong economic policies, class warfare propaganda from the White House, North Africa in the hands of the muslim brotherhood, an American Ambassador murdered: a detailed list of each one of these themes would take many pages. The campaign of the Democrats is in the quick sands, and those quick sands have a name: Barak Obama and his administration of extremist subversives who hate America.
The only surprise I have experienced in October is how completely irrational liberals and the MSM are. Chris Matthews is now saying about Mitt Romney, “I don’t think he understands the Constitution of the United States…He’s the president of the United States. You don’t say, ‘you’ll get your chance.’” People call Chris Matthews a lead anchor on MSNBC. I don’t know about that, I have never watched MSNBC and I don’t ever intend to, but he is clearly one of the leaders (if not the leader) of the cult of obama. Now i just heard a political ad on ESPN by morgan freeman extolling the virtues of our commander(????) in chief? Give me a break………
I saw the Freeman ad too, and it made me so sad. I thought he was smarter, but guess not. Good thing only the shallowest, most ignorant would change their vote based on a celeb endorsement.
Thought experiment.
Imagine serious negotiations with the Iranians (I know, not really possible. This is an experiment), with the Fraud as the final decision maker.
Could anything possibly be more ludicrous? and dangerous?
I hope they announce negotiations. All Romney has to do is play the “I understand. I’ll tell Vladimir” tape as a 30 second ad in Ohio. It will guarantee a Romney victory. In fact, he ought to play that ad as preventive medicine, because the Fraud could announce some nefarious “grand bargain” the night before voting day.
All I can say is that when and if they try this bs that Obama has made a great negotiation with Iran to stop their uranium enrichment.That Every American that understands the truth here tell their friends family everyone!Tell them before it comes out.that is what iam doing,Then it will have no legs for the Obama Campaign.
Just stalling to finish the bomb. muslims cannot be trusted. They are killing us. NOmo’ is a muslim. He’ll talk.
WHO do you think you’re kidding Obama???
How about now, you tell us the one about the three bears?
Not even your own followers are going to buy this one!
I don’t see how negotiating with terrorist can help Obama. I will only hurt him and most of his supporters don’t know what an Iran is.
Sorry, but no matter what happens with Iran before the election, it won’t sway my vote. Really people, get serious. No one cares at this moment in time about Iran. We care about jobs, debt, an overreaching gov’t. Any October surprise which is foreign policy related isn’t going to change my mind nor the minds of millions of others.
Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency program to arm and finance the Afghan mujahideen during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, 1979 to 1989. The program leaned heavily towards supporting militant Islamic groups that were favored by neighboring Pakistan, rather than other, less ideological Afghan resistance groups that had also been fighting the Marxist-oriented Democratic Republic of Afghanistan regime since before the Soviet intervention. Operation Cyclone was one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations ever undertaken;funding began with $20–30 million per year in 1980 and rose to $630 million per year in 1987. Funding continued after 1989 as the Mujahideen battled the forces ofMohammad Najibullah’s PDPA during the Civil war in Afghanistan (1989–1992).
This is the prelude to the Dempsey-Ahmadinejad nonaggression pact, closely modeled on the Molotov- von Ribbentrop nonaggression pact between Stalin and Hitler of 1939. The leaking of this agreement is essentially an endorsement of Obama by Ahmadinejad. Israel is expected to play the role of Poland and be dismembered
Dr. Ledeen, Thanks for your insightful articles on Middle East affairs as well as on our Intelligence community! I and my friends really appreciate your commentary. We also like your PJTV videos and wish you’d do more.
Would also like to see your commentary on this topic: Considering the severe economic conditions throughout most of the world, what do you and your contacts fear is likely to happen in the Middle East and what can the US do to prevent or mitigate it, at least as far as it affects the US and our allies?
HAAHAAHAA!!! Michael makes me laugh with the comment that O’s settling for a “nothingburger”!!!! Right, but honestly w/out LOL, that’s this administrations approach to everything to secure our country. I know myself, being Iranian, that the mullahs prefer Obama victory. But this man in our WH FAILED to secure OUR OWN diplomats in Libya and they’re pointing to “intelligence” reports? Are you kidding me, they’re making it seem like GW’s deal with Sadaam Husseins’ WMD. These guys were their OWN EMPLOYEES for goodness sakes and they couldn’t even secure them. Now they want to strike a bargain with the mullahs? Or do they? Exactly why their NOT going to have a 2nd term. We’re DONE. Next please!!!! and “Faster Please”!!!!
As October surprises go, this is pretty thin gruel.
Dennis Ross. Mr. Statecraft. Ross has been “brokering” peace in the ME, in particular between the Palestinians and Israel, for 30 years now. In all that time, what exactly has he accomplished? I’m sure he’s a very knowledgeable man, but, really, I regard him as the Bob Shrum of his field. Long on theory-driven strategies, but way short on winning strategies.
why dont they discuss, the ambassador in libya sending arms into Syria via Jordan at Obamas request??? We are sending arms to the Muslilm Brotherhood to arm terrorist in syria to fight our ally. Of course, this isnt in the new, because obama is trying his best, to delay an investigation in to the murder of ambassador Chris Stevens.
I mean sending arms into syria, via Turkey to arm muslim brotherhood to fight our ally, jordan.
Michael Ledeen should pay closer attention to the “lunatic fringe of the far right”. We have been talking about this for awhile. The word from a source inside Iran was that a small team from Obama, led by a woman (Valerie Jarrett, apparently) made the following pitch to the Iranians: if Mitt Romney is elected, he will probably take a much tougher approach towards Iran. So it is in the Iranian interest for Obama to be elected. To facilitate that outcome, the Iranians should agree to halt their nuclear program, or to submit to inspections. It is not clear whether the understanding was explicit, or merely implied, that the Iranians would disregard the agreement as soon as the US election is over.
Wouldn’t it be amazing if somebody found a way to hide a microphone on that woman? The amount of sedition discussed in a given day would probably be enough to see members of this administration behind bard for many years to come.
Sorry I meant “bars” not “bard” saw the typo right as I clicked submit
Iran has denied any deal to negotiate with the US on this matter. As long as it happens after the November elections, I doubt Obama cares one way or another; all his actions to date tell me so.
If you ask me, this is simply a last-ditch effort by the Obama administration to pretend King Barack has even the slightest trace of a spine.
Yea, you know this was just a trial balloon floated by the Obama Campaign staff to see if it would get some positive push for the Messiah. In a best case scenario, the New Treason Times just tried another act of journalistic malpractice, but I doubt they did this on their own, without coordination from AxelFraud or on of his minions! This why I keep telling people & Republican Politicians, specifically, that they have to fight the Obama Enemy media.It’s like fighting muslim jihadis, if you don’t hit back hard, you’ve only encouraged and emboldened them to hit you harder the next time… and there will be a next time, until you make it to painful or humiliating for them. Here’s how to do it: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw
God Bless America!
The October surprise? Obama will announce that when they told him Benghazi was under siege, the transmission was garbled and he thought they told him Ben Gazzara would be starring in a new movie, “Under Siege” and that Obama would be asked to do a cameo appearance. That’s why he went to sleep that night, having dreams from his father of starring in a major Hollywood motion picture. Naturally, the media will provide cover and explain how anyone could have made a mistake like that, you know, with ‘Benghazi’ and ‘Ben Gazzara’ being so similar, and the words ‘Under Siege’ being used when Obama was briefed.
One problem is, however, Steven Seagal has warned that “Under Siege” is a protected trademark. Obama said in response he would sign an executive order rendering the previous ‘Under Siege’ trademark invalid. The bigger problem is that Ben Gazzara died earlier this year, so of course, Obama will deny having known that and send State Department officials out for appearances on the Sunday talk shows to confirm that. So you can see how it will all work out!
A fun read but irrelevant. The only October surprise that can save Obama is 12 Million people finding jobs over the next 15 days. Only 11 are working days so that is slightly more then 1 mill per day. Plus the cost of gas has to drop $2.00 per gallon.
Chances of those happening are Slim and None with Slim boarding the out of town bus as I type.
Charlie don’t surf.
Thanks for thinking it fun. Irrelevant or not, it covers a lot of territory: Obama’s narcissism, media bias, the administration’s pattern of misrepresenting Benghazi & other events, redirecting blame, Obama’s (illegal) misuse of executive orders and callous indifference to the safety & well-being of Americans in Libya & elsewhere.
Well, well, well… look at all these people thinking…what? that the Iranians are trying to do a “Candy” and try to “save” President Obama?? Or they are so cynical they fear the President will bomb them right before the election?? THAT’S…..STRIKE TWO! People outside the country NEVER understand US politics. Remember Putin telling Bush “You fired Dan Rather”?? As if.. AS IF… Relax, Mahmoud et al…. Ever since “The Great Less than Nominal Event” we have been told that the President’s goal is to “study it carefully and bring them to justice.” Translation: October surprise will be a drone strike that supposedly hits the exact people who killed our Ambassador. Don’t worry if October wanes, we don’t want ANY time to study THAT claim until AFTER the election.
“I can’t imagine an Obama administration authorizing a military attack. An administration that can barely bring itself to fly air cover in Libya, and can’t bring itself to take any serious action in Syria, strikes me as very unlikely to unleash our armed forces against the mullahs.”
First week in November, bombs over Tehran. Count on it.
There’s no need for Iran to talk. The imbecile Joe Biden already said in his debate debacle, that WE WILL NOT USE MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAN PERIOD! They have no incentive to stop with their nuke program, or talk to us.
The October surprise is coming, but, unfortunately, this lame release isn’t it. Whatever it is, it will be far more sinister. Keep an eye on the messiah. There is little in nature more dangerous than a wounded weasel.
October thud.
I would just like to add my own take on a October Surprise. I believe there has already been one. It might not matter nationally but it might in Massachusetts.
Pope Benedict has just canonised a Native American as a Catholic Saint. Poor Elisabeth Warren might be saying, what wrong did I do, I am Cherokee and already a miracle worker.
Obama, Axelrod, Wasserman-Shultz, Tho. Freidman, Cutter, Hillary, etc, etc operate under the assumption that we are all retarded. Surprise, surprise…. we’re not. The mullahs aren’t either. And they play us like a violin. Willful ignorance. Another manifestation of eubonics.
I remember the embassy takeover in 1979, and I don’t WANT to talk to them.
The terrorist Islamic regime wants and needs Obama to win the election and they will do anything they can in their power even by the way of lies which is natural to them and temporarily making deals with the Satan, that’s what they will do. The barbarians in Tehran are becoming really scared of Romney and his recent rise in the polls. So they like good old mafia boys come to Obama’s rescue, by joining their brethren s Chavez, Putin and Castro in putting their total support and endorsement for Obama’s re-election for a second term by putting all of their “international” zeal and efforts in bringing this about. Hello “New York Times” can you put us up on front page please?!!!
This October surprise is nothing but that. Am I surprised? Not really! And I know many of us who have come to learn so much about the thinking and operating of these fascist pigs and their trolls are not surprised either.
Fred, your comment is trashed. There is no room here for people who invent my opinions instead of taking the time to read.
This is REALLY important so please read. Came across it early this morning on The Daily Caller and have seen now that Drudge is carrying this story. There may be no need for an October “suprise”:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/21/cbs-news-affiliate-calls-2012-presidential-race-for-barack-obama-weeks-ahead-of-election/
Been trying to see who else is carring this story besides The Daily Caller and Drudge. Pass it around please!