David Koresh mad the same claims about Christianity. Should we have believed him as well?

Well the first line of your last post is correct. That’s actually the point that I’ve been making all along. I noticed that you have finally come to the conclusion that terrorism is not confined to islamic-terrorism. Now even though you didn’t cite any proof to back up your claims about “HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS YES HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS” of executions in Iran, I believe you. Your comment actually proves my point; angry bigoted men are the problem, not Islam. Ask yourself if you had an army of freedom fighting people and you had a choice to kill the brutal oppressors of Iran or every Muslim civilian of Iran, what would you choose?

Mr. Independent study and learn before you come to your conclusion!

Well for someone who states repeatedly that you’re done talking about a certain subject, you seem to have a lot of additional comments to make. Which is good? When someone takes the attitude that they know everything they’ll never learn anything.

Now on the substance of your last few posts:
First off my positions have all been based on history and current events. Now you claim to have read the Koran numerous times yet you never cite any specific Surah. Is that an oversight? Additionally you’ve based your positions only on the opinions others. It’s one thing to cite the research from a credible source to back up your opinions but you’re not even doing that. All you’ve posted so far are clips and links to someone else’s work. Has it occurred to you to cite a specific Surah to back up your opinions? You haven’t thus far. I suggest you do that. And try not to mimic ETAB by quoting an article from the Wikipedia. If you do respond, include the manuscript and page number that you’re sourcing. Not doing so undermines your entire position and your credibility.

Continuing on the issue of your credibility I have friends that are from Iran and they NEVER refer to themselves as Iranian, they ALWAYS refer to themselves as Persian or of Persian descent. Are you really from Iran? Additionally Turkey is a secular state. If you ever visit that country (and I have) you’ll see there are just as many unobservant Muslims and observant ones. So your assertion that Turkey is “under the rule of ignorance and barbaric of Islam” is simply not true. You also claimed that the link you provided in a previous link contains versus from the Koran. There is no such thing. Scriptures in the Koran are called Surah.

Also I am familiar with history. Historical references have been the basis for my counter arguments. Hence my reference to terrorist organizations like the KKK and the IRA. Versus like: Deuteronomy 20:10-17, 1Samuel 15:2-3, 2Kings 10:6-7, and 1 Timothy 1:18-20 from the NAS Bible were used by the KKK to justify their terrorism in the same manner as Al-Qaeda uses the Koran. That doesn’t make either religion evil. A more recent history has shown me that when posters on this cite make personal attacks, it’s usually because their positions have been disproven. Additionally when someone repeatedly states that “I know and you don’t” while neglecting to provide evidence to refute another post, it’s usually because they can’t find any. Why haven’t you provide references like the ones above?

Finally you commented in your last post that “A Terrorist does the act of terror and murder based on the ideology he or she follows “. I agree. In fact that sounds like something I’ve written. The quote I’m referring to was an answer to ETAB on what is terrorism. I replied with “Terrorism is the use of violence (or threat of violence) against non-combatants to achieve political goals”. However you also stated that “today’s terrorists are doing the acts of terror based on the ideology of Islam and nothing else” and that’s false. Below are two links one from a ‘right wing’ source and the other from a ‘left wing’ source.
(http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/muehlenberg/2008/12/mumbai-and-islamic-terrorism)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7772771.stm)
They discuss that since 9/11/09 there have been over 12,000 acts of islamic-terrorism committed around the world and that in 2008 alone there were over 5,000 acts of narco-terrorism committed in just Mexico. Just one country in one year. Over the past 40 years the terror group the FARC has been attributed with over 300,000 murders. That doesn’t even include other acts of terrorism. So unfortunately your positions are disproven not just by history but by current events.

Anyone can claim their beliefs are justified by GOD. Those same people can even site religious texts to try and claim they have proof that GOD supports their acts of violence. That DOSEN’T make it true. It’s false for the KKK, the IRA, and Al-Qaeda. The problem with terrorism is NOT religion, it’s the terrorists.

This is honestly my last comment on this subject.

Your statement that terrorism is being orchestrated by the teachings of Islam is only your opinion. Just because you believe something doesn’t make it true. The Christian terrorist organization the KKK made the same claim about the Bible. That wasn’t true either. What might help you to understand these concepts is to actually read the Koran, instead of the opinion of others. So far all you’ve done to justify your position is to provide links to sites that discuss someone else’s opinion. Perhaps you should try actually reading the Koran before you decide to comment on the religion of Islam.

Additionally the history of humanity in general is very violent. The Koran was written during the Dark Ages. If your unfamiliar with history, that was a very violent time. Furthermore the history of Christianity was also filled with men who justified violence by their faith. Ask yourself what happened to all of the Native American people who were murdered by the English, French, Portuguese, and the Spanish? And I am not refereeing not to the introduction of diseases but war.

Finally there are many verses in the Bible that condone violence and not in self-defense. For example, Deuteronomy 20:10-17, 1Samuel 15:2-3, 2Kings 10:6-7, and Timothy 1:20 are just a few. The problem with terrorism is NOT religion, it’s the terrorists.