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		<title>By: Watching Them Squirm: Is Fox News Abandoning the Mob It Created? - Marijuana Growing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watching Them Squirm: Is Fox News Abandoning the Mob It Created? - Marijuana Growing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I created a Bugs Bunny character named &quot;Josh&quot; to dance a virtual dirty chicken all over Pajama Media&#039;s comment section end zone, stirring up the chimps into a frenzy of shrieking. There&#039;s nothing a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: We'reDead</title>
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		<dc:creator>We'reDead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big deal -

Our corporate masters discarded the Jesus freaks and Ayn-Rand-reading aluminum siding hustlers they&#039;ve been using as electoral fodder for the past 20 years and shacked up with the hippies, the homos, and the urban Bohemians.

Business as usual, except for the discarded.  Enjoy your unemployment.</description>
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<p>Our corporate masters discarded the Jesus freaks and Ayn-Rand-reading aluminum siding hustlers they&#8217;ve been using as electoral fodder for the past 20 years and shacked up with the hippies, the homos, and the urban Bohemians.</p>
<p>Business as usual, except for the discarded.  Enjoy your unemployment.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Cullen</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2008/11/03/election-thoughts/#comment-5174</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOLY DEJA-VU!

&quot;What makes me angriest:  that there is no outcry against election fraud;  that the media have become pure political instruments;  that our “educational system” has produced an ignorant electorate.&quot;

What a gem of a statement. That&#039;s exactly what I said in 2000 &amp; 2004! Glad to see you are finally catching on &amp; I hope the next 8 years are as much fun for all of you as the last 8 were for me. Have fun sucking eggs and watching Fox news or have they betrayed you too? Oh Yes. Yes they did. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOLY DEJA-VU!</p>
<p>&#8220;What makes me angriest:  that there is no outcry against election fraud;  that the media have become pure political instruments;  that our “educational system” has produced an ignorant electorate.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a gem of a statement. That&#8217;s exactly what I said in 2000 &amp; 2004! Glad to see you are finally catching on &amp; I hope the next 8 years are as much fun for all of you as the last 8 were for me. Have fun sucking eggs and watching Fox news or have they betrayed you too? Oh Yes. Yes they did. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: The Historian</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2008/11/03/election-thoughts/#comment-5172</link>
		<dc:creator>The Historian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMPORTANT ELECTION REFLECTIONS
These are the results of this election that need to be noted and remembered:

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/interesting-ele ction-reflections.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMPORTANT ELECTION REFLECTIONS<br />
These are the results of this election that need to be noted and remembered:</p>
<p><a href="http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/interesting-ele" rel="nofollow">http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/interesting-ele</a> ction-reflections.html</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2008/11/03/election-thoughts/#comment-5167</link>
		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification: The above statement about Malcolm&#039;s neighborhoods was directed to Sanity not to Michael Ledeen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification: The above statement about Malcolm&#8217;s neighborhoods was directed to Sanity not to Michael Ledeen.</p>
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		<title>By: Wadeusaf</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2008/11/03/election-thoughts/#comment-5166</link>
		<dc:creator>Wadeusaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sanity:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Are you advising us to be bamboozled and hoodwinked? Seriously? You take issue with this idea? Did you enjoy the Republican administration’s lies about weapons of mass destruction, the cost in human lives and the devastating effect of the War in Iraq on our economy?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Why do you continue to be confounded by the lie about a lie that wasn&#039;t a lie. Your complete refusal to accept that honest efforts to obtain the truth were twisted and even when clarified, ignored by the press and the left. I tired long ago of pointing out the complete and total hypocrisy of statements like this. Yet you would have us agree that the right followed a lie either knowingly or blindly depending (on the hour)and of course the current clash of tyrany v. the people is not having any affect on the choices of the Mullahs or Kings. Today when faced with declaration of &quot;Off with their heads?&quot; the question is only who will handle the chopping? Common folks like you or Al Qaeda. Please read this carefully and do not jump to false accusations of what is here stated lest you be prone to lying about a lie that is not a lie.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;If the President Elect were repeating hate speech, that would be one thing, but he isn’t. So he’s read Malcolm X - so what? Sure Malcolm X was a violent and angry man not to be emulated, but he was also a famous man, and any educated person would have read at least something by or about him in college. Note that after this reading, Obama is neither violent nor angry. Most of the angry violent speech I hear these days is actually from the far right, people who talk about gathering ammunition and practicing their shooting. Some people need to take a good long look at themselves and ask whether they are contributing to the future happiness of our country by saying such things.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;ML: I knew Malcolm, liked him personally and greatly admired the work he did in Harlem. I think he was one of the smartest of that great generation of black leaders. “His” neighborhoods were clean, safe, and friendly, and I always thought that some of the more crazy black nationalists had him killed because they feared he was the real wave of the future.&lt;/b&gt;

Ask yourself why it was that Malcolm&#039;s neighborhoods were clean, safe and friendly, then tell me again what you have against Americans expressing their second amendment rights to own and bear arms or what you find threatening about the current stocking up of ammunition and weapons. It seems to me to be a clear message to the new administration, &quot;don&#039;t try to make our worst fears real.&quot; If those fears are not rational those guns will find no use.

 There is little trust of or understanding of President-elect Obama&#039;s aims and intentions by many on the right. Much nonsense was raised in an attempt to fill the void of knowledge about the Democratic Candidate, whose own esoteric explanations sated the book toting and ivory towered rhetorical clinger&#039;s but did not quench the curiosity of the rest of America. We will see how President elect Obama now handles this perceived information gap. Please, not another autobiography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sanity:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Are you advising us to be bamboozled and hoodwinked? Seriously? You take issue with this idea? Did you enjoy the Republican administration’s lies about weapons of mass destruction, the cost in human lives and the devastating effect of the War in Iraq on our economy?&#8221;</i> Why do you continue to be confounded by the lie about a lie that wasn&#8217;t a lie. Your complete refusal to accept that honest efforts to obtain the truth were twisted and even when clarified, ignored by the press and the left. I tired long ago of pointing out the complete and total hypocrisy of statements like this. Yet you would have us agree that the right followed a lie either knowingly or blindly depending (on the hour)and of course the current clash of tyrany v. the people is not having any affect on the choices of the Mullahs or Kings. Today when faced with declaration of &#8220;Off with their heads?&#8221; the question is only who will handle the chopping? Common folks like you or Al Qaeda. Please read this carefully and do not jump to false accusations of what is here stated lest you be prone to lying about a lie that is not a lie.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;If the President Elect were repeating hate speech, that would be one thing, but he isn’t. So he’s read Malcolm X &#8211; so what? Sure Malcolm X was a violent and angry man not to be emulated, but he was also a famous man, and any educated person would have read at least something by or about him in college. Note that after this reading, Obama is neither violent nor angry. Most of the angry violent speech I hear these days is actually from the far right, people who talk about gathering ammunition and practicing their shooting. Some people need to take a good long look at themselves and ask whether they are contributing to the future happiness of our country by saying such things.</i></p>
<p><b>ML: I knew Malcolm, liked him personally and greatly admired the work he did in Harlem. I think he was one of the smartest of that great generation of black leaders. “His” neighborhoods were clean, safe, and friendly, and I always thought that some of the more crazy black nationalists had him killed because they feared he was the real wave of the future.</b></p>
<p>Ask yourself why it was that Malcolm&#8217;s neighborhoods were clean, safe and friendly, then tell me again what you have against Americans expressing their second amendment rights to own and bear arms or what you find threatening about the current stocking up of ammunition and weapons. It seems to me to be a clear message to the new administration, &#8220;don&#8217;t try to make our worst fears real.&#8221; If those fears are not rational those guns will find no use.</p>
<p> There is little trust of or understanding of President-elect Obama&#8217;s aims and intentions by many on the right. Much nonsense was raised in an attempt to fill the void of knowledge about the Democratic Candidate, whose own esoteric explanations sated the book toting and ivory towered rhetorical clinger&#8217;s but did not quench the curiosity of the rest of America. We will see how President elect Obama now handles this perceived information gap. Please, not another autobiography.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh, spare me. The difference is is that most people in the media love Obama to the point of insanity and they loathe Palin.&lt;/i&gt;

Palin made a blathering fool of herself on national televison in front of thousands of people by exposing the Grand Canyon depth and the Long Island Sound width of her ignorance about public affairs.

There are those who refuse to confront this fact, but most of them would have made as big of fools of themselves as Palin, and for the same reasons.  So they recognize her as one of their own.  

Everybody else recognizes her as that, too.    

Everything else about her ascent to, and perch upon, the pinnacle of publicity, has been mere permutations of that first disaster.  

Speaking personally, it is my fond hope that Palin is the reagent that finally precipitates out the intelligent and knowledgeable component of Conservatism from its dilution into the ignorant anti-intellectualism of &quot;real America&quot;.

Because the cynical cultivation of this &quot;American exclusiveness&quot; by the Republican Party professionals, at the expense of coherent and responsible Conservative thought, the practical politics of Republican government has degenerated into mere cynical and unprincipled opportunism.  And the nomination of Sarah Palin was the final [and fittingly disastrous] spasm of Republican government. 

Forty years ago I grew to maturity reading the National Review as an intelligent and reasoned counterpoint to my own views that was always worthy of respect.  It would be nice to have something like this to read again. 

The fact that for decades now such reasoned counterpoint has been drowned out by the shallow and strident voices of &quot;American exclusiveness&quot; is one of the saddest facts of contmeporary life.   

I don&#039;t expect reasoned and thoughtful counterpoint from Sarah Palin anytime soon.

ML:  &quot;American exceptionalism&quot; is the subject of many scholarly books, from Tocqueville to Lipset.  It is not some new thought from Wasilla, Alaska.  Spare ME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh, spare me. The difference is is that most people in the media love Obama to the point of insanity and they loathe Palin.</i></p>
<p>Palin made a blathering fool of herself on national televison in front of thousands of people by exposing the Grand Canyon depth and the Long Island Sound width of her ignorance about public affairs.</p>
<p>There are those who refuse to confront this fact, but most of them would have made as big of fools of themselves as Palin, and for the same reasons.  So they recognize her as one of their own.  </p>
<p>Everybody else recognizes her as that, too.    </p>
<p>Everything else about her ascent to, and perch upon, the pinnacle of publicity, has been mere permutations of that first disaster.  </p>
<p>Speaking personally, it is my fond hope that Palin is the reagent that finally precipitates out the intelligent and knowledgeable component of Conservatism from its dilution into the ignorant anti-intellectualism of &#8220;real America&#8221;.</p>
<p>Because the cynical cultivation of this &#8220;American exclusiveness&#8221; by the Republican Party professionals, at the expense of coherent and responsible Conservative thought, the practical politics of Republican government has degenerated into mere cynical and unprincipled opportunism.  And the nomination of Sarah Palin was the final [and fittingly disastrous] spasm of Republican government. </p>
<p>Forty years ago I grew to maturity reading the National Review as an intelligent and reasoned counterpoint to my own views that was always worthy of respect.  It would be nice to have something like this to read again. </p>
<p>The fact that for decades now such reasoned counterpoint has been drowned out by the shallow and strident voices of &#8220;American exclusiveness&#8221; is one of the saddest facts of contmeporary life.   </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect reasoned and thoughtful counterpoint from Sarah Palin anytime soon.</p>
<p>ML:  &#8220;American exceptionalism&#8221; is the subject of many scholarly books, from Tocqueville to Lipset.  It is not some new thought from Wasilla, Alaska.  Spare ME.</p>
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		<title>By: Wicked Dickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wicked Dickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real tragedy is that it may be too late to beat the bums.  Our government schools are indoctrination centers for the socialists to trash the  Constitution, capitalism and evil corporations.  Now, voter fraud is widespread, aided and abetted by State Attorneys General who are sponsored (as in Minnesota) by ACORN and the Communist Party of the U.S.  Coleman doesn&#039;t have a prayer. If the ACORN Ayers-Obama folks get entrenched, we will lose what is left of our freedom.  The &quot;news&quot; media have become a sick, very sick, joke. I fear for the Republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real tragedy is that it may be too late to beat the bums.  Our government schools are indoctrination centers for the socialists to trash the  Constitution, capitalism and evil corporations.  Now, voter fraud is widespread, aided and abetted by State Attorneys General who are sponsored (as in Minnesota) by ACORN and the Communist Party of the U.S.  Coleman doesn&#8217;t have a prayer. If the ACORN Ayers-Obama folks get entrenched, we will lose what is left of our freedom.  The &#8220;news&#8221; media have become a sick, very sick, joke. I fear for the Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Caster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Caster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whining on this comment page is enough to make any reasonable person sick.  The conservatives have Obama derangement syndrome and the liberals have Palin derangement syndrome.  Neither Obama nor Palin is as bad as either of their detractors thinks.  

Its time for all you jerks to grow up.  There is too much work to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whining on this comment page is enough to make any reasonable person sick.  The conservatives have Obama derangement syndrome and the liberals have Palin derangement syndrome.  Neither Obama nor Palin is as bad as either of their detractors thinks.  </p>
<p>Its time for all you jerks to grow up.  There is too much work to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama and Palin make news. What they do is interesting. There are only two differences between them: Obama was ready for prime time and Palin was not, and Obama had a smart and serious campaign behind him to make sure that the news he made was flattering.&quot;

Oh, spare me.  The difference is is that most people in the media love Obama to the point of insanity and they loathe Palin.  

They&#039;re so biased that they are flatly incapable of objectivity.  The MSM has never told the truth and they never will.

Hell, the media admits their own bias...

&quot;The Post provided a lot of good campaign coverage, but readers have been consistently critical of the lack of probing issues coverage and what they saw as a tilt toward Democrat Barack Obama. My surveys, which ended on Election Day, show that they are right on both counts.&quot;--Deborah Howell, WaPo

Gee, really, Deb?  I never would have noticed!

&quot;The post-election unity was on full display Friday evening when MSNBC political analyst Lawrence O&#039;Donnell told syndicated columnist Pat Buchanan that the Republican Party celebrates ignorance.&quot;--Newsbusters

Bias?  Us?  Never!

&quot;My Job Is To Help Make Obama’s Presidency a Success&quot;--Chris Matthews

They&#039;re not news reporters.  They&#039;re cheerleaders and propagandists for the liberal Dems.  Always have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama and Palin make news. What they do is interesting. There are only two differences between them: Obama was ready for prime time and Palin was not, and Obama had a smart and serious campaign behind him to make sure that the news he made was flattering.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, spare me.  The difference is is that most people in the media love Obama to the point of insanity and they loathe Palin.  </p>
<p>They&#8217;re so biased that they are flatly incapable of objectivity.  The MSM has never told the truth and they never will.</p>
<p>Hell, the media admits their own bias&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Post provided a lot of good campaign coverage, but readers have been consistently critical of the lack of probing issues coverage and what they saw as a tilt toward Democrat Barack Obama. My surveys, which ended on Election Day, show that they are right on both counts.&#8221;&#8211;Deborah Howell, WaPo</p>
<p>Gee, really, Deb?  I never would have noticed!</p>
<p>&#8220;The post-election unity was on full display Friday evening when MSNBC political analyst Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell told syndicated columnist Pat Buchanan that the Republican Party celebrates ignorance.&#8221;&#8211;Newsbusters</p>
<p>Bias?  Us?  Never!</p>
<p>&#8220;My Job Is To Help Make Obama’s Presidency a Success&#8221;&#8211;Chris Matthews</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not news reporters.  They&#8217;re cheerleaders and propagandists for the liberal Dems.  Always have been.</p>
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