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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they mention this?

&quot;The number of &quot;urban violence incidents&quot; committed in 2007 in France has been discreetly publicized by the Interior Ministry. It amounts to 93,016, of which 37,359 car torchings, or 102 per day!&quot;

I thought not.  
Considering that America is about 4x the size of France, what do you think the reaction here in the states would be if Muslims were burning over 400 cars per day?
Being a good American, I would start a business manufacturing plastic Allahs to put on the dashboard.  Maybe the &#039;rioters&quot; would go burn the car with the Plastic Jesus instead.  After I got my start-up out, I would expand to make bubble-head Allahs.  Wouldn&#039;t that be the cats whiskers? 
Then there would be the Full Monte ALLAH, who instead of bobbing his head is humping a goat.
Lots of sales there.  Might even replace the &quot;Kill &#039;em all, Allah will know his own.&quot; bumper sticker.</description>
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<p>&#8220;The number of &#8220;urban violence incidents&#8221; committed in 2007 in France has been discreetly publicized by the Interior Ministry. It amounts to 93,016, of which 37,359 car torchings, or 102 per day!&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought not.<br />
Considering that America is about 4x the size of France, what do you think the reaction here in the states would be if Muslims were burning over 400 cars per day?<br />
Being a good American, I would start a business manufacturing plastic Allahs to put on the dashboard.  Maybe the &#8216;rioters&#8221; would go burn the car with the Plastic Jesus instead.  After I got my start-up out, I would expand to make bubble-head Allahs.  Wouldn&#8217;t that be the cats whiskers?<br />
Then there would be the Full Monte ALLAH, who instead of bobbing his head is humping a goat.<br />
Lots of sales there.  Might even replace the &#8220;Kill &#8216;em all, Allah will know his own.&#8221; bumper sticker.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People in think tanks having quaint little discussions (paper or plastic ? ?police or military ?) while sipping their lattes...give me dyspepsia.

And what is the Anbar Awakening, except a preponderance of Iraqis finally grasping...&quot;oh, the major target of the AQ slaughterers is ourselves !&quot;

Praise be to Allah for General Petraeus (the &lt;b&gt;military&lt;/b&gt; guy) and  Ryan Crocker for, finally, getting the Iraq war going in the right direction.

Were Bill Clinton&#039;s refusals (via Sandy Burglar) to let our guys in Pakistan nail bin laden when they had him in their sights a &quot;military&quot; or a &quot;police&quot; debacle ?  I think a police debacle.

Anyway, the newly reconstituted Al Qaeda is entrenching itself more and more deeply in NW Pakistan and even infusing itself into the functioning of several cities, with the goal of taking over the entire country. They live, like all terrorist cowards, closely intermingled with  the tribes they have infested.

Hardly anybody ever mentions that the Waziristan tribes themselves are suffocating under Taliban-like oppression.

Somebody, military or police, better get on top of those &quot;terrorist&quot;  jokers soon.

Faster, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People in think tanks having quaint little discussions (paper or plastic ? ?police or military ?) while sipping their lattes&#8230;give me dyspepsia.</p>
<p>And what is the Anbar Awakening, except a preponderance of Iraqis finally grasping&#8230;&#8221;oh, the major target of the AQ slaughterers is ourselves !&#8221;</p>
<p>Praise be to Allah for General Petraeus (the <b>military</b> guy) and  Ryan Crocker for, finally, getting the Iraq war going in the right direction.</p>
<p>Were Bill Clinton&#8217;s refusals (via Sandy Burglar) to let our guys in Pakistan nail bin laden when they had him in their sights a &#8220;military&#8221; or a &#8220;police&#8221; debacle ?  I think a police debacle.</p>
<p>Anyway, the newly reconstituted Al Qaeda is entrenching itself more and more deeply in NW Pakistan and even infusing itself into the functioning of several cities, with the goal of taking over the entire country. They live, like all terrorist cowards, closely intermingled with  the tribes they have infested.</p>
<p>Hardly anybody ever mentions that the Waziristan tribes themselves are suffocating under Taliban-like oppression.</p>
<p>Somebody, military or police, better get on top of those &#8220;terrorist&#8221;  jokers soon.</p>
<p>Faster, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Herschel Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herschel Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had equally harsh language for the stupid RAND publication:

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2008/07/31/another-disappointing-rand-counterinsurgency-study/

As for the notion that the Awakening was exclusively an Iraq phenomenon, I have also argued against this.  You and I have the same views on the mission of the Marines in Anbar, as you know. They were the stronger horse, and without them, Anbar would have been lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had equally harsh language for the stupid RAND publication:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.captainsjournal.com/2008/07/31/another-disappointing-rand-counterinsurgency-study/" rel="nofollow">http://www.captainsjournal.com/2008/07/31/another-disappointing-rand-counterinsurgency-study/</a></p>
<p>As for the notion that the Awakening was exclusively an Iraq phenomenon, I have also argued against this.  You and I have the same views on the mission of the Marines in Anbar, as you know. They were the stronger horse, and without them, Anbar would have been lost.</p>
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		<title>By: j green</title>
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		<dc:creator>j green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rand corp=rice speak=gobbeldeeguck</description>
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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way to put the Department of State on ice until we finish some of the wars they have started?  They can start wars faster then the Military can end them.  Maybe if we gave the entire State department 6 months off with pay?  In the long run it would save some money, what with the cost of munitions now days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way to put the Department of State on ice until we finish some of the wars they have started?  They can start wars faster then the Military can end them.  Maybe if we gave the entire State department 6 months off with pay?  In the long run it would save some money, what with the cost of munitions now days.</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Ledeen it looks like we got bigger fish to fry than your fresh Alaska Salmon. The world is staring to unravel. Looks like America is gonna have to go at it alone. If Russia&#039;s invasion of Georgia isn&#039;t a poke in Europe&#039;s eye then it certainly is a wake up call. Smell the coffee Europe, the Bear is back from hibernation and hungry for former satellite states. Will Europe talk itself to death as usual? Europe should be damned for their total impotency. If familiarity breeds contempt than what does endless diplomacy breed? W-A-R. A strong Europe, via NATO or on its own, is mandatory. Belligerent nations respect power and resolve which happen to be two words missing from European dictionaries. A strong Europe will make certain nations think twice before taking belligerent actions. A strong Europe is mandatory if democracy is to prevail or certainly the world will get a whole lot darker than Georgia is today. Mr Ledeen do you agree or disagree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Ledeen it looks like we got bigger fish to fry than your fresh Alaska Salmon. The world is staring to unravel. Looks like America is gonna have to go at it alone. If Russia&#8217;s invasion of Georgia isn&#8217;t a poke in Europe&#8217;s eye then it certainly is a wake up call. Smell the coffee Europe, the Bear is back from hibernation and hungry for former satellite states. Will Europe talk itself to death as usual? Europe should be damned for their total impotency. If familiarity breeds contempt than what does endless diplomacy breed? W-A-R. A strong Europe, via NATO or on its own, is mandatory. Belligerent nations respect power and resolve which happen to be two words missing from European dictionaries. A strong Europe will make certain nations think twice before taking belligerent actions. A strong Europe is mandatory if democracy is to prevail or certainly the world will get a whole lot darker than Georgia is today. Mr Ledeen do you agree or disagree?</p>
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		<title>By: audie2</title>
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		<dc:creator>audie2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped believing Rand info in the late &#039;70s when they put out a paper &#039;proving&#039; alcoholics could be &#039;taught&#039; to drink socially.  After some research I found that they got their &quot;winning numbers&quot; by asking the alcoholic who had passed their class if they had been bothered by alcohol problems since &#039;graduation&#039;.  Someone else  had the bright idea to ask the spouse and check arrest records and the whole thing fell apart.  They did not find any successes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped believing Rand info in the late &#8217;70s when they put out a paper &#8216;proving&#8217; alcoholics could be &#8216;taught&#8217; to drink socially.  After some research I found that they got their &#8220;winning numbers&#8221; by asking the alcoholic who had passed their class if they had been bothered by alcohol problems since &#8216;graduation&#8217;.  Someone else  had the bright idea to ask the spouse and check arrest records and the whole thing fell apart.  They did not find any successes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rubicon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rubicon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many inside the beltway type organizations cling to the &quot;law &amp; order&quot; approach. And as has been mentioned here, appropriate application of the law &amp; order method at appropriate times, is part of the &quot;war on terror.&quot;
However, pre 9/11 there was a legal block that stopped intel &amp; law enforcement from knowing what each other knew. Worse is that it appears neither were talking to the military folks.
Defeating this enemy, and the terrorists ARE our enemy, will take the application of many methods to finally stop the attackers &amp; win over those who sit on the fence or are confused or frightened.
Any thinking person knows military alone will not solve the problem. I know of no one who backed military intervention, who wanted
&quot;only&quot; military action.
It is unfortunate that many on either side, refuse to acknowledge the potential effectiveness of either approach combined with each other.
Worse is that supposed &quot;think tanks&quot; give up objectivity in order to toe the political party line. Whether from the right or the left, refusing to adapt to conditions on the ground, has sunk many operations, either of a law &amp; order nature or a military nature.
Refusing to accept the reality that one or the other methods contributed to the success of the &quot;surge,&quot; is simply partisanship, at its worst!
But then, partisanship has become the new religion of zealots seeking to undermine their political opponents, even if it means one destroys the entire nation to accomplish their personal political positions.
Everyone has made mistakes in dealing with this &quot;new type of enemy.&quot; There is blame to share among ALL.
We have however, also developed an understanding within the military establishment that will prove beneficial in the new few years as we work to resolve these issues.
We just need to take with a grain of salt, reports from groups or persons who have &quot;gone in the tank&quot; for their  favored political position. We also need to educate as many around us as possible that bias &amp; partisanship in reports, media reports, editorials, Op-Eds, and many other venues, only serves the enemy &amp; does nothing for the nation.

ML:

Yes, everyone has made mistakes and we will all continue to make mistakes.  God put man on earth to screw up and provide entertainment.  But I don&#039;t think we advance the cause of understanding the world by saying that &quot;think tanks&quot; aren&#039;t useful, or that too many people have political bias.  The important thing is not bias but the truth, and biased people can get to the truth;  that they are on one side or the other regarding the war doesn&#039;t automatically discredit their analyses.  In graduate school we were taught to avoid trying to identify other historians&#039; motives, or for that matter to identify leaders&#039; motives, on the grounds that a) we couldn&#039;t reliably know the motives (sometimes the people themselves didn&#039;t know them), and b) that what matters is how well they understood their real options and how wisely they chose among them.

Hard indeed, nowadays, when a good deal of the commentary to this blog gets rejected because it&#039;s just a personal attack against various politicians or writers.  But it&#039;s worth the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many inside the beltway type organizations cling to the &#8220;law &amp; order&#8221; approach. And as has been mentioned here, appropriate application of the law &amp; order method at appropriate times, is part of the &#8220;war on terror.&#8221;<br />
However, pre 9/11 there was a legal block that stopped intel &amp; law enforcement from knowing what each other knew. Worse is that it appears neither were talking to the military folks.<br />
Defeating this enemy, and the terrorists ARE our enemy, will take the application of many methods to finally stop the attackers &amp; win over those who sit on the fence or are confused or frightened.<br />
Any thinking person knows military alone will not solve the problem. I know of no one who backed military intervention, who wanted<br />
&#8220;only&#8221; military action.<br />
It is unfortunate that many on either side, refuse to acknowledge the potential effectiveness of either approach combined with each other.<br />
Worse is that supposed &#8220;think tanks&#8221; give up objectivity in order to toe the political party line. Whether from the right or the left, refusing to adapt to conditions on the ground, has sunk many operations, either of a law &amp; order nature or a military nature.<br />
Refusing to accept the reality that one or the other methods contributed to the success of the &#8220;surge,&#8221; is simply partisanship, at its worst!<br />
But then, partisanship has become the new religion of zealots seeking to undermine their political opponents, even if it means one destroys the entire nation to accomplish their personal political positions.<br />
Everyone has made mistakes in dealing with this &#8220;new type of enemy.&#8221; There is blame to share among ALL.<br />
We have however, also developed an understanding within the military establishment that will prove beneficial in the new few years as we work to resolve these issues.<br />
We just need to take with a grain of salt, reports from groups or persons who have &#8220;gone in the tank&#8221; for their  favored political position. We also need to educate as many around us as possible that bias &amp; partisanship in reports, media reports, editorials, Op-Eds, and many other venues, only serves the enemy &amp; does nothing for the nation.</p>
<p>ML:</p>
<p>Yes, everyone has made mistakes and we will all continue to make mistakes.  God put man on earth to screw up and provide entertainment.  But I don&#8217;t think we advance the cause of understanding the world by saying that &#8220;think tanks&#8221; aren&#8217;t useful, or that too many people have political bias.  The important thing is not bias but the truth, and biased people can get to the truth;  that they are on one side or the other regarding the war doesn&#8217;t automatically discredit their analyses.  In graduate school we were taught to avoid trying to identify other historians&#8217; motives, or for that matter to identify leaders&#8217; motives, on the grounds that a) we couldn&#8217;t reliably know the motives (sometimes the people themselves didn&#8217;t know them), and b) that what matters is how well they understood their real options and how wisely they chose among them.</p>
<p>Hard indeed, nowadays, when a good deal of the commentary to this blog gets rejected because it&#8217;s just a personal attack against various politicians or writers.  But it&#8217;s worth the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Yaacov Ben Moshe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yaacov Ben Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do something? 
Say something? 
How, when so many people can&#039;t even allow themselves to think something?
Here is a post to help out those who can&#039;t focus on the difference between good and evil:
http://breathofthebeast.blogspot.com/2008/08/birthday-gift-for-dead-girl.html
and when they are done with that I recommend The Pledge to Recognize Evil:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/recognize_evil/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do something?<br />
Say something?<br />
How, when so many people can&#8217;t even allow themselves to think something?<br />
Here is a post to help out those who can&#8217;t focus on the difference between good and evil:<br />
<a href="http://breathofthebeast.blogspot.com/2008/08/birthday-gift-for-dead-girl.html" rel="nofollow">http://breathofthebeast.blogspot.com/2008/08/birthday-gift-for-dead-girl.html</a><br />
and when they are done with that I recommend The Pledge to Recognize Evil:<br />
<a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/recognize_evil/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/recognize_evil/</a></p>
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		<title>By: wlpeak</title>
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		<dc:creator>wlpeak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh this is so wrong headed. The Rand corp has it right. 

Remember their groundbreaking treatise on the errors of our &quot;War&quot; against the Germans in the 1940s? They showed quite conclusively that we achieved little through military means until we began rounding up and arresting the German forces in &#039;45. That&#039;s 5 years if you count the British failures to initiate legal action. Before then it was just all running around shooting at each other. It wasn&#039;t until the minds of the Germans decided to seek the path of peace and International Law that our wasteful military tactics were changed to the proper tactic of policing and prosecuting.

Later, the wonderful Nuremberg, erroneously named military, tribunals culminated our proper and successful Legal activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh this is so wrong headed. The Rand corp has it right. </p>
<p>Remember their groundbreaking treatise on the errors of our &#8220;War&#8221; against the Germans in the 1940s? They showed quite conclusively that we achieved little through military means until we began rounding up and arresting the German forces in &#8217;45. That&#8217;s 5 years if you count the British failures to initiate legal action. Before then it was just all running around shooting at each other. It wasn&#8217;t until the minds of the Germans decided to seek the path of peace and International Law that our wasteful military tactics were changed to the proper tactic of policing and prosecuting.</p>
<p>Later, the wonderful Nuremberg, erroneously named military, tribunals culminated our proper and successful Legal activities.</p>
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