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Climate Change: What Are the Real Questions?

Before we evaluate the answers we're given about climate change, it would be good to understand the questions.

by
Charlie Martin

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August 8, 2013 - 3:00 pm
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Didn’t need the adobe fort after all.

Less-ancient history

The Skeptical Environmentalist came out in 2001 — right after the imminent collapse of civilization caused by Y2K computer bugs — and I found it fascinating. The author, Bjørn Lomborg, had started out a believer, but in trying to analyze the work of Julian L Simon, he had realized that an awful lot of the imminent crises either weren’t supported by real data, or were much less harmful than the solutions that were being proposed.

Still, I was only a sort of mildly interested skeptic myself; I proposed a pair of articles to PJM in 2007, one taking the pro-AGW position and one the anti, and I was finding the pro-AGW article hard to write. There were too many questions, and I was already seeing the way that the science and the politics had combined in 2004 and were shaping up for the 2008 election. Now, though, I was interested and reading much more widely.

Then, in 2010, was the Climategate bombshell; we at PJM were among the first non-specialist media to break the story of the purloined files that showed how a relatively small clique were working to suppress research that contradicted the imminent environmental crisis predictions, while concealing the fact that they themselves had real problems even replicating their own research.

This whole history is a (possibly too long) lead-in to suggest that we can take a careful and appropriately skeptical look at the science, and also at the reasoning behind the science, and make our own decisions, without being seduced by the press release science.

What is the hypothesis?

Basically, what I suggest is that we think about what chain of things must be true for the whole climate change hypothesis to be probable. Technically, this is called a chain of implications.

To start with, let’s set out the hypothesis clearly. The hypothesis of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been that the evidence supports several statements:

  • that the Earth’s overall average temperature is increasing and we can measure the magnitude of that warming with sufficient accuracy to reason further
  • that the Earth’s climate is changing as the result of an overall increase in the global average surface temperature
  • that the magnitude of this change is greater than can be accounted for by natural processes
  • that the primary mechanism responsible for this warming is the change in radiative balance caused by increased CO2 content in the atmosphere (the “greenhouse effect”)
  • that humans are responsible for this warming
  • that this warming will continue

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I live in Pennsylvania, near where Washington crossed The Delaware. The homes on my street (circa 1750-1890) do NOT have driveways. We have street parking in front…and a lovely township park across the street.

For the past 10 years, on the eve of EVERY “Earth Day”, we residents receive notices on our windshields and in our mailboxes from our local Police, reminding us to MOVE OUR CARS the evening before Earth Day, and to KEEP the street clear of our personal vehicles the next day, BECAUSE THE EARTH DAY PARTICIPANTS WILL REQUIRE THOSE SPACES TO PARK THEIR CARS.

There is plenty of parking at the nearby elementary school. In fact, the CHILDREN of that school are taken hostage and force-marched the three whole torturous blocks to The Park (and back) in order to “save the planet” every year….but the 30-40 aging hippies, local college professors, various eco- non profit group members and other assorted lefties that “organize” this propaganda?

Oh no. They cant WALK. They are there to give SPEACHES, and need to breeze in and get out, FAST…with Police Enforced “rock star parking” right NEXT to the Park.

Needless to say, some of us refuse to move our cars….and every year, we conspire to ritually park “just far enough apart” to prevent any visiting Prius from slipping in between….I even take all three of my motorcycles out of the Shed in my yard, and space them at the curb the same way.

And I take that day day off work every year, JUST to see them become APOPLECTIC when they arrive…and find that their anticipated, Police Enforced, "Privilege To Inconvenience Others", has be denied by lowly mortals.

Such pure joy I get in seeing the arrogant, fat and slovenly types with gray ponytals trying to Parallel Park several times, before realizing they Just. Cant. Fit.

Followed soon after by Angry Lesbians in their Subaru Wagons, circling the block over and over, cursing loudly to to each other in a nurotic rage “why are their CARS here!...there’s not supposed to be any CARS here!” .

The ultimate treat is when one of them gets out and tries directing the other into a tantalizingly CLOSE, but JUST too small space, while blocking the whole street in the process….if you want to see the “tolerance” and “peacefulness” of the left in action, just sit back on your front steps and watch THIS!

God, I've come to love Earth Day more than even more than Christmas!

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I remember musing as I looked out across campus from my office window in the early 70s that when I was a kid in the 50s academic work was supposed to be about unearthing truth. Now I realized my academic mind was occupied with finding an agenda to push as the key to academic success. I wondered: What happened? Little did I know that the whole academic world would become a brothel of agendas with truth largely quarantined to a few select locations like the large hadron collider.
36 weeks ago
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Charlie, I'd settle for the watermelons answering one question:

"What is the optimum temperature for the Earth? Show your work."

Until then, they can bite me.
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wattupwiththat reports The early chill in the Arctic continues

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/14/the-early-chill-in-the-arctic-continues/

As I wrote last week here they will have to put a new green line as we enter the return of the ice and many will begin to wonder if ice age is coming back
scientist with a strong I YES I put their fingers in their ears and blind their eyes ,foam at the mouth making such reports "disappear" to their fan club
Pray they find nice woman to marry to keep their hearts warm and flesh body warm in coming cold winters since waxwing01 has inside story from the Queen of the Sun I marry
36 weeks ago
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The fear of AGW is simply a tool to assist the liberal over-lords in their redistributionist endeavor. All "solutions" include taking money, resources and freedom from the developed nations to be distributed at their discretion. (Think Solyndra)
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To all those who say increased CO2 will not increase global warming, I offer a rebuttal. It's a rather obvious one, too.

Depending on planetary alignments and timing, take a look into a clear sky about an hour before dawn or an hour after sunset. See that bright pinpoint? It ought to be obvious - it's the brightest natural thing in the sky after the Sun and Moon.

Global warming. See it.
36 weeks ago
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And when CO2 partial pressure gets in the neighborhood of 80 bar I'll concede you have a point.
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And all that "global warming" happened without humans involved -- all natural processes.
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The so-called greenhouse effect, the alleged cause of anthropogenic global warming, does not exist. This is the only conclusion you can reach from the observation that global temperature is not increasing despite the fact that there is more carbon dioxide in the air than ever before. This is not a temporary "pause" of warming or a "hiatus" as the warmists like to refer to it. By now it has lasted for fifteen years, since 1998. The IPCC was established in 1988 and ten years after that the warming stopped. This pause has lasted five years longer than the ewntire previous existence of the IPCC and should be considered the new normal for climate science. Their science is completely at a loss trying to explain it and in their desperation they have come out with absurdities like claiming that the energy from OLR is hiding in the ocean bottom. There is nothing mysterious about it because saturated greenhouse theory iof Ferenc Miskolczi [1] fully explains it. He published it in 2007 and was shouted down in the blogosphere. But in seven years no peer-reviewed challenge appeared, no doubt not for lack of trying. In 2010 he found a way to prove it by using existing data. NOAA has a weather balloon database that goes back to 1948. He used it to study the absorption of infrared radiation by the atmosphere [2] and discovered that absorption had been constant for 61 years while carbon dioxide at the same time went up by 21.6 percent. This means that the addition of this substantial amount of carbon dioxide to air had no influence whatsoever on the absorption of IR by the atmosphere. And no absorption means no greenhouse effect, case closed. That is the explanation of why carbon dioxide today is unable to produce greenhouse warming. You can bet that this did not suddenly begin 15 years ago but has always been the case. It follows that all past warming claimed to have been greenhouse warming is natural warming, misidentified. And all predictions of warming by mpdels using the greenhouse theory are simply invalid. Since they have been used to justify various emission control laws these laws have been passed under false premises and must be voided. Since AGW simply does not exist the IPCC that was set up to study it no longer has a purpose and should be closed down.
[1] Ferenc M. Miskolczi, “Greenhouse effect in semi-transparent planetary atmospheres” Quarterly Journal of Hungarian Meteorological Service 111(1) 1-40 January-March 2007)
[2] Ferenc M. Miskolczi, “The stable stationary value of the Earth’s global average atmospheric greenhouse-gas optical thickness” E&E 21(4):243-262 (2010)
36 weeks ago
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See, here you're having a problem with precisely saying what you mean. But seee, eg, here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/23/quantifying-the-greenhouse-effect/

What you *mean* is tat the degree of additional heating is not linear to the additional CO2.
36 weeks ago
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I live in Pennsylvania, near where Washington crossed The Delaware. The homes on my street (circa 1750-1890) do NOT have driveways. We have street parking in front…and a lovely township park across the street.

For the past 10 years, on the eve of EVERY “Earth Day”, we residents receive notices on our windshields and in our mailboxes from our local Police, reminding us to MOVE OUR CARS the evening before Earth Day, and to KEEP the street clear of our personal vehicles the next day, BECAUSE THE EARTH DAY PARTICIPANTS WILL REQUIRE THOSE SPACES TO PARK THEIR CARS.

There is plenty of parking at the nearby elementary school. In fact, the CHILDREN of that school are taken hostage and force-marched the three whole torturous blocks to The Park (and back) in order to “save the planet” every year….but the 30-40 aging hippies, local college professors, various eco- non profit group members and other assorted lefties that “organize” this propaganda?

Oh no. They cant WALK. They are there to give SPEACHES, and need to breeze in and get out, FAST…with Police Enforced “rock star parking” right NEXT to the Park.

Needless to say, some of us refuse to move our cars….and every year, we conspire to ritually park “just far enough apart” to prevent any visiting Prius from slipping in between….I even take all three of my motorcycles out of the Shed in my yard, and space them at the curb the same way.

And I take that day day off work every year, JUST to see them become APOPLECTIC when they arrive…and find that their anticipated, Police Enforced, "Privilege To Inconvenience Others", has be denied by lowly mortals.

Such pure joy I get in seeing the arrogant, fat and slovenly types with gray ponytals trying to Parallel Park several times, before realizing they Just. Cant. Fit.

Followed soon after by Angry Lesbians in their Subaru Wagons, circling the block over and over, cursing loudly to to each other in a nurotic rage “why are their CARS here!...there’s not supposed to be any CARS here!” .

The ultimate treat is when one of them gets out and tries directing the other into a tantalizingly CLOSE, but JUST too small space, while blocking the whole street in the process….if you want to see the “tolerance” and “peacefulness” of the left in action, just sit back on your front steps and watch THIS!

God, I've come to love Earth Day more than even more than Christmas!

36 weeks ago
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Way to go Root !
36 weeks ago
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been there, lovely area providing it did not have so many liberals screwing it up- the elites must have better parking as in their world we are all Equal but they are more equal than others
36 weeks ago
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CO2 has no measurable effect on temperature, as this chart clearly shows:

http://tiny.cc/e4vp1w

The entire "carbon" scare is based on the enormous federal grants to 'study climate change'. More than $100 BILLION has been granted since 2001!

With that kind of money being shoveled out, there is a huge incentive to claim there is a problem. Because why pay, if this is the answer:

"There is no problem. Nothing either unusual, or unprecedented is happening. Past temperature extremes have been much greater than now."

The "carbon" scare is the biggest taxpayer scam the world has ever seen, from the UN down to Tuvalu. They all have their fingers in our wallets. And it is all based on a hoax, as we can see in the chart above: as CO2 rises, global temperatures are falling.
36 weeks ago
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Nonsense, see Roy Spencer's link below.
36 weeks ago
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Which part is nonsense? The part that seems to be the essnece of your article or the parts after that?
36 weeks ago
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The part that says CO2 has no measurable effect on temperatures. It's unclear that the increase has had a particularly unusual effect on temperatures, or that human additions to CO2 have any observable effect on the degree of warming, but the idea that CO2 does *cause* wasming, as pushed eg by the sky dragon guys, it's about as well supported at the idea that vaccines cause autism.
36 weeks ago
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I don't know what the real questions are, but the real answer is that the new Sec'y of the Interior doesn't want no stupid anti-Warmists in her organization. She sounds as intelligent as her predecessor at Interior, agenda driven Ken Salazar, who promptly boogied off on his Colorado vacation when the Gulf Horizon well blew.

Very likely, the woman appointed to replace the corrupt and stupid Lisa Jackson at EPA (why hasn't Lisa been prosecuted for that illegal email account where she could discuss EPA agenda sub rosa ?) shares the new interior secy's...sympathies.

They can all have a confab with Babsie Boxer in the Senate, whose ears and mind remain completely closed to anyone refuting AGW.

Geez California, DiFi and Babsie, really ?
36 weeks ago
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"In an agency-wide address to employees Aug. 1, (Interior Secretary Sally) Jewell took the unusual step of suggesting that no one working for her should challenge the idea that human activity is driving recent warming. “I hope there are no climate-change deniers in the Department of Interior,” she said."

If not out and out foxes, then out and out morons are running the henhouse.
36 weeks ago
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Mr. Martin left out the final step of the CAGW thesis. ("C" for "Catastrophic"; if the effects of AGW aren't seriously bad there is no crisis.)

The "greenhouse effect" of increased CO2 in the atmosphere is limited. CO2 only blocks a few bands of the infra-red spectrum. Its maximum possible effect on heat re-radiation is only enough to raise global temperatures by a few degrees. Present levels of CO2 already block nearly all re-radiation in the affected bands, so further increases of CO2 will have no effect. (It's not even clear that this effect is actually happening in the real world - there is no apparent correlation between CO2 and global temperature.)

The final step in the CAGW thesis is that the minor termperature increase which atmospheric CO2 might cause will cause increased evaporation of water from the oceans. Water vapor is a far more effective "greenhouse gas" than CO2, and will raise temperatures further, causing more evaporation - a positive feedback loop that will increase temperatures until the Earth is a scorching desert like Venus.

There is no evidence whatever for this part of the thesis, except questionable computer model results. And if this part of the thesis is not true, there is no reason whatever for the elaborate, enormously expensive policies to replace fossil fuels with "green energy".
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can't remember what got me started, but for the last few years I have gotten very involved studying ancient cultures. you want to see science suppressed for political reasons - you would not believe how digging up bones could get so p.c.

anyway, what always comes across strongly in each culture is how climate or the environment can help/hinder mankind. things like a volcano eruption, a comet, or an asteroid strike, sea/ocean flows and who knows what may cause climate change at any time. not to mention natural, perhaps systematic changes like the sun's output. the only constant in everything I have observed is change; and, like climate change appears to be cyclical. cool>>>hot>>>cool>>>hot. never have I seen where warming has hurt anything seriously. oceans rise and drop. it is becoming evident that many ancient cultures are now just off the coasts of many countries. it looks like they just moved inland as the oceans rose. however, that recovered baby mammoth who froze w/ subtropical fauna in his gut always gets my attention. sounds like he got hit quick by something big, like an immediate loss of heat. hmmmm?

btw, the sun appears to have a very significant black (cooling?) area that recently covered about 1/4 of the area of the sun. nothing like this has ever been observed before. maybe I need a new jacket this year.
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What year was the photo at the top actually taken? The on e titled, "My favorite part of Earth Day."
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I think it's relatively recent -- I was looking on shutterstock for brunette hippie chicks and that was the one I liked best.
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I can see why, she just didn't look circa 1970.
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Except for the wavy hair, she looks a good bit like the unrequited love I was talking about.
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