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Exploiting Illegal Immigrants, Army Style

May 27th, 2014 - 7:57 am

The Vietnam-era “Fortunate Son” narrative has come full circle: now Democrats like Congressman Gutierrez seek to fill the military with the uneducated, the poor, and the marginalized. He wants them to leave the shadows and go to boot camp. How can Congressman Luis Gutierrez, who champions having “a sense of solidarity with the undocumented,” exploit illegals in a way even the most wicked hotel or restaurant never could?

If Congressman Luis Gutierrez really feels a “human connection” to young men like Jose Gutierrez, recruiting them to the enlisted ranks of the military seems an odd way to show it.

To be clear, service in the armed forces isn’t something to be scorned or mocked as was so common during the Vietnam era. But those who still think the military preys on poor underprivileged minorities now have at least one example where it might be true, thanks to Congressman Luis Gutierrez.

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The purpose of having illegals in the military is to make the military more loyal to the government that pays it than to the people of the US. Its basically a mercenary army, if it is all or mostly illegals.
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No "Fortunate Sons" on the battlefield? How about the officers that led us? Most all of them were college educated and many came from very well off families. Many of the Reservists called up had at least some College ed. and they were fighting right along side us. I don't know, don't care, how many illegal aliens were there beside me. All we cared about was if they did their jobs.

I was not a combat Marine, I was a radio repairman which took at least a high school education. (Didn't stop me from getting shot at a time or two) I served in Vietnam in 1969. We did not have Black Marines or White Marines or any other color besides Green and we were all Americans. I served with a man whose parents escaped from Cuba, another was from Mexico, another an American Indian. We, of course had Black Americans working beside us but I don't think any of them were less than three generations away from whatever country their Forefathers came from. We were friends, we were comrades and any of us would have put our lives on the line to protect the others.

If you have never been in a place like that please don't tell me you wouldn't support a man for citizenship that stood beside you in a time of war.
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VERY well-said, sir.
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Oh jeez, serving in the military has been a route to citizenship for a long time. And what better?
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Charlie, you missed the part about extending citizenship to the illegal alien kin of illegal alien service members. That route hasn't been a route to citizenship.
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Damned Skippy. If there's anything that demonstrates that you give a Rat's Ass about this place, that'd be it.

"You know, this is a dangerous business" -- Anonymous soldier, Spanish Civil War
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Not for illegal aliens.
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What better, Charlie? So every mercenary we hire should receive full citizenship, whether they entered the country legally or illegally? I like you a lot, Charlie, but I disagree. Legally is way better.

I also believe that the fewer the mercenaries the better.
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I disagree....those are people who want to be citizens so badly they will risk their lives in the military to do so. They will most likely be good citizens, especially after the military gets through with them.
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How about granting citizenship to all the Phillipino's who served in the Navy, took the same risks of hitting mines, dying or getting injured on the flight deck/well deck/in engineering etc. as the US citizens they served with. You know, the folks who were around during the last amnesty (supposedly the final one), legally serving our country who were denied citizenship while folks who could produce evidence (by any means-- wink, wink, nudge, nudge) they'd successfully violated the laws for 7 years were made citizens.
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J Christian,

One thing I learned from this article is that you know very little about those who serve in the US military and put their lives on the line to protect you and your loved ones. This leaps out because you refer to Marine LCpl Gutierrez as a "soldier". While soldier is a proud title it is used to designate members of the U.S. Army. Marines are very clear that they refer to themselves as "marines". Another clue is that the rank, "lance corporal" is unique to the USMC.

More importantly, you also display very little knowledge about the motivations of those who serve. The reality is that most enlist and re-enlist for a several reasons including securing the economic welfare of themselves and their families and a sense of adventure ("... see the world"), as well as patriotism. Of course we don't know the mixture of motives of LCpl Gutierrez. But we do know that there are safer and more comfortable ways he could have served in the military which would still have yielded the same emigration benefits. Instead, he volunteered to serve as a marine, likely in combat arms or combat support. The fact that LCpl Gutierrez choose to serve in the marines at the "tip of the spear" testifies to his honor and patriotism.

Before you offer and further speculation on what you refer to as the "true goal" of dead heroes please feel free to enlighten your readers with your own record of service since your country was attacked on 9-11. Perhaps you were too old to serve in uniform (although I am sure that the enlistment age ceiling was raised to 40 for a while circa 2005/2006) but there were was a big demand for civilian attorneys such as you to volunteer for a tour as an embedded civilian attorney-advisor with DoD, DoS, DoJ in Iraq or Afghanistan working on missions such as rule of law, counter-corruption, counter-insurgent finance, etc. I'm familiar with some of those folks and their work While it was not the infantry, it was often uncomfortable and dangerous and they served with honor and patriotism.

Thank you Lance Corporal Jose Gutierrez, USMC, for your heroic service to the United States of America.



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The "soldiers" nit is picked. One of the more annoying of the nits. Writing a piece that says, solider, marines, sailors, and airmen doesn't usually work so well. So an edit is made that wipes out any branch recognition. The Republic is safe.

And new MarchH, I think you got stuck on soldier, the article is about someone unrelated to the motivations of those who serve. It's about a narrative 50 years old that is feeding on itself, thanks to Rep. Gutierrez. See Empire Sentry, below.
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To those that serve or served it's not a "nit". There is a vast difference between all the services and their members, all of whom are rightfully proud of who and what they are. It's not that hard to come up with a pronoun to refer to them all as a group. Maybe service members, GI's, something else.

Sir, I honor your service in the Justice Department, and even more so the service you've provided since leaving the DOJ, please accord us former and current service members the same respect.
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Thank you for your service, March. I must say that is a very nice looking saddle there on your high horse. I hear Marines called soldiers quite often, especially in the media. I guess you could spend most of your free time calling out this common error.

This is related to the error of calling "Special Operations," with members of many branches, "Special Forces," which is strictly an Army group. I have made such corrections myself in various places using the comments section of blogs. I have even sometimes used a mocking tone to do it. However, I don't recall that I have ever questioned the patriotism or service of a man who has done and does everyday work to improve our country's politics. Such a man is J.C. Adams
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Which doesn't make him always right. See my note above. I honor his efforts very much...he's one of the one's fighting the good fight. But when he's wrong he deserves to know so he can make it right and be right thereafter. He's demonstrated a desire to make things right so I believe he'd make a good faith effort when an error has been pointed out to him.
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new MarcH,
I do not know if you missed the point of the article because you went radar focus on one item that means little without the main point....or, if you seriously have a lack of understanding of any history.

With that in mind, let me add some detail. In the 1960's, minorities demanded to be enlisted at higher numbers. They felt they were not participating and had been blocked from great benefits and opportunity. In response, minorities were recruited at higher number while a percentage of the white population stayed home in college or whatever.

As a result, minorities suffered death and losses at higher percentage of participation. Never mind they demanded to participate at higher % or that they were required to under law. This was called racist.

Now it will be repeated. Worse, you overlook the VERY thing you pointed out and then wave a flag over it: that persons who sacrifice the greatest thing will NOT get what they seeked nor will his family...as in the case of Gutierrez.


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Isn't this what eventually became of the ancient Roman army, and caused the radical cheapening of the value of Roman citizenship?
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Great catch, Christian. Every peacenik in the States in the late 60s and early 70s was wailing about the poor minority "kids" being shot at in the military, and then running off to Canada when the draft started to zero in on them.

And cortez pegged it. Gutierrez wants more mercenaries in the military. Every American knowledgeable about history and the military wants few if any.
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This is nothing more than another progressive plan to weaken our military.
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The purpose of having illegals in the military is to make the military more loyal to the government that pays it than to the people of the US. Its basically a mercenary army, if it is all or mostly illegals.
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