ROBERT ZUBRIN EMAILS this audio link and writes:

I recently debated Robert Bryce, the author of “Gusher of Lies,” a book that says we don’t need an energy security policy because the Saudis are our friends, on the Mike Medved show. It was broadcast nationwide April 21.

I think people might find it very interesting.

They just might. Zubrin’s own book is Energy Victory. Our interview with Zubrin is here.

When we spoke, he was pretty clear on the difference between today’s porky food-based biofuels and the kind of thing Zubrin is planning. My own sense is that “energy independence” is nice, but simply ensuring that we don’t have the current degree of energy dependence would be a good thing.