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Ed Driscoll

Interview: Heather Mac Donald on California in Decline

October 28th, 2013 - 11:34 pm

MR. DRISCOLL:  Heather, one of the chapters you contributed to California: The Beholden State  explores what you call “Radical Graffiti Chic.” It’s a tour of an art exhibit devoted to the aesthetic “joys,” if that’s the word, of spray painted graffiti. I’ve always thought of graffiti as vandalism and defacement of private property. How did we reach a point where our intellectual and aesthetics-oriented betters on the left began to take a different view?

MS. MAC DONALD:  Ed, you are so out of it.  I mean, graffiti has been –

MR. DRISCOLL:  I lead a very sheltered life!

MS. MAC DONALD:  Yeah, it’s been lionized by the elites for — for decades, but it really reached its apogee of elite hypocritical veneration with this show at the Museum of Contemporary Art in downtown Los Angeles; that was the largest museum show yet dedicated to graffiti.  And the hypocrisy was just utterly sickening because the Board of Trustees at the Museum of Contemporary Art live in Bel Air, they live in Hancock Park, they live in Brentwood and Beverley Hills, they own hedge funds in New York and Los Angeles; they would never for an instant tolerate graffiti on their own premises.  Indeed, the Museum of Contemporary Art itself, if you drive along the back of it, of the Geffen Center on Alameda Drive in downtown Los Angeles, they clean over their own graffiti because they understand that this is a scourge to urban vitality.  Nevertheless, this is one of those radical chic conceits that the elite hold that somehow this is the authentic expression of the ghetto, and therefore we should celebrate it.  And so this show romanticized the era of New York subway defacement when people who entered those subways felt like they had been run over by a truck.  The ugliness was so overwhelming, and it gave the official imprimatur to Los Angeles’ Hispanic graffiti vandals.

I talked to a lot of them; you can go to Homeboy Industries in downtown LA where people are coming and trying to get out of the gang life, and, you know, they’ll say, I wasted my high school years.  I — oops — maybe I should close my door here in New York.

MR. DRISCOLL:  (Laughs)

MS. MAC DONALD:  We’ll hope it’s not a graffiti vandal has been hit, or maybe that wouldn’t be so bad.

[Returning to quoting former gang members she met at Homeboy Industries in LA] You know, I was on meth, I was out there every night, staying up all night, to [graffiti] tag.  I was cutting school, or sleeping through my classes because I was so tired and, you know, people spend time in prison for this, and yet this is the way that the now — thank heavens former — head of — of the Museum of Contemporary Art, Jeffrey Deitch, thought was a way to celebrate minority culture.

There’s far better ways.  Gustavo Dudamel and the LA Philharmonic has started the youth organization — Youth Orchestra of Los Angeles, which brings classical music to inner-city kids.  It’s modeled on the fabulous El Sistema program in Venezuela.  If Deitch and his trustees such as Eli Broad, and I know he’s a hero to many in the conservative movement for his support of charter schools, but on this he was an ignorant and blind backer of Jeffrey Deitch and if he wants to feel like he’s a champion of minority culture, I would urge him to go talk to Gustavo Dudamel and not the graffiti vandals of downtown Los Angeles.

MR. DRISCOLL:  Well if the Museum of Contemporary Art approves of graffiti as an art form, I assume they don’t mind if you crack open a can of Krylon spray paint, and add your own additions to their display, right?

MS. MAC DONALD:  No, a good question.  I decided to check them out on that.  I tried to write some — took my little nice erasable graphite pencil out in — in the exhibit and was immediately intercepted by a guard; oh, we don’t allow writing.  And this was just on the walls, it wasn’t as if I was defacing any of this so-called art, but nevertheless, even though they won’t allow it in their — in their halls, they’re selling — the gift shop sold graffiti paint that is manufactured by a — a company who specializes in spray paint for graffiti vandals, and I asked again, well, can I use this on the outside?  If I buy it here, can I use it on the outside of MOCA, and the woman who was working in the — in the gift shop said oh, no, you know, you wouldn’t believe the amount of guards we’ve got patrolling this place.

So the hypocrisy is just simply stunning, and it’s astounding that it’s not so apparent that the — the trustees didn’t see it, but it just shows the desperation of the elites to feel like they are somehow participating in anti-establishment culture even as they are reaping the benefits of a stable society that respects property rights, their own property rights, you know, their — their hedge funds and their Mercedes Benz and their — their undoubtedly gated mansions in Bel Air.

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"SF writer John Scalzi, then the president of the Science Fiction Writers of America, wrote an article about "white privilege" that stated how the 'straight white male' has the easiest life in America of anyone."

You know, there is some truth to that. We are far less likely to come from a broken home (OK, "a single parent" home), to have a police record or get caught up in the drug culture, far more likely to finish high school, to get married, to get a job and keep it and work at a career rather than wasting time complaining about how much we are discriminated against.

But I'm just prejudiced.


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H. Mac Donald has her ear to the latest manifestation of identity politics. Here is a blurb for a new science fiction anthology that was given positive reviews by Locus Magazine, Publisher's Weekly and Tor.com, the largest publishers of science fiction.

"This anthology of speculative fiction stories on the themes of colonialism and cultural imperialism focuses on the viewpoints of the colonized. Sixteen authors share their experiences of being the silent voices in history and on the wrong side of the final frontier; their fantasies of a reality in which straight, cis, able-bodied, rich, anglophone, white males don’t get to tell us how they won every war; their revenge against the alien oppressor settling their 'new world'."

Reviewer Lois Tilton at Locus wrote "There is a sad irony in the fact that these stories have been written in English, arguably the most dominant imperialist tongue since Latin, which still exercises its influence from the grave of history."

If I said that about millions of people force-fed Arabic across the Middle East and half the Mediterranean in a far longer historic time-frame than English and in far more nations, I'd be fitted with a KKK hood.

How any human being could parse that anthology's blurb as anything but straight up racial profiling, animus, defamation, hate-speech, stereotyping, racism, and bigotry is beyond me to comprehend.

The feminist science fiction convention called WisCon, first held in 1977, has re-introduced institutional racial segregation in America, having both a non-whites-only dinner and "safer-space" for so-called "people of color" only.

During last Spring's WisCon, co-founder of the "safer-space," Jaymee Goh Tweeted "Come join us for delish Nepalese fudz and non-white company!"

Goh is a foreign national - not even an American citizen - who co-founded the "safer-space," and is a WisCon panelist, and has referred to whites on Twitter as "sour dough-faced" and America as a "white supremacist" country."

SF writer John Scalzi, then the president of the Science Fiction Writers of America, wrote an article about "white privilege" that stated how the "straight white male" has the easiest life in America of anyone.

I could list many more examples. Success can't survive in that type of atmosphere and the rhetoric is similar to beer gardens in Nuremberg in 1933. This is the newest face of liberalism today, and it is straight up racist and sexist, while stridently asserting it stands for the exact opposite. Since this crowd sees nobility or lack of it in a face, they will continue to vote accordingly, and the influx of immigrants, 90% from the Third World in recent decades, will assure this beer garden party maintains momentum.
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The trouble with California is its inhabitants. The sane ones are fleeing, dying, or giving up. Soon to be an invasion on the country as a whole, they are an extension of Mexico. It's a shame really. I visited some relatives there last week and just got back home. I was visiting one of the shore communities and the weather, the scenery, the food, all glorious and stunning. But in the end, no matter the backdrop, it is the PEOPLE who make a place an attractive and comfortable location. And for the most part, I felt like I was no longer in America. And here's the thing: THAT IS BY DESIGN. From the TSA experience flying there and back, to the many third world faces, and the sense of surrender, it no longer "feels" like my country. BY DESIGN.
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my classmate's step-mother makes $63 an hour on the internet. She has been fired for ten months but last month her payment was $16174 just working on the internet for a few hours....>>>>>>>> http://xurl.es/3mzv7
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Since I live in the middle of the SV "bubble", the odd thing is how remote all this stuff seems "on the inside". I'm well aware of the disasters in places like Stockton and Modesto, but few people, particularly if they aren't from CA, have ever been outside SV/LA, other than possibly weekend trips to Yosemite or Lake Tahoe.

And if you're in the Valley, you forget how "ordinary" places work: everyone is brilliant, many of them are rich enough that hallway chitchat drifts to discussions of which wealth management company is best, and everyone (even "white" people) have connections and relations overseas that they visit often.

Politically, the problem is the R's are basically dead here, and SV/LA types pretty much ignore the D's activities, partially because many of them aren't from the state and others because their "voting issues" are social liberal causes, so even if they agree with the R's on economic issues, they'll vote D - or not at all - because of the social stuff.

And if you live in the rich areas, life is pretty good: the weather is great, restaurants excellent, pollution is minimal, crime is low, schools are good, infrastructure decent, and even though houses are hugely expensive, a couple working in tech at good companies will make $250K or more in a year, and can afford a house.

The people who get screwed by CA's awful government - at least for now - are far away in places SV types never see. I've been trying to volunteer at the local "Republican Liberty Caucus" (basically libertarian-minded types trying to work within the existing Republican Party), but it's a huge struggle.
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Think-tankers are so behind the curve. California's cracks were already showing by 1980. Eight years of Gov. Jerry "Era of Limits" Brown version 1.0 firmly set the state on the road to ruin and the Democrat legislature then and now has only pressed harder on the accelerator.

California remains the state where America's future is already here. Kind'a like Dickens's Ghost of Christmas Future.
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my roomate's sister-in-law makes $74/hour on the computer. She has been fired from work for 9 months but last month her income was $17954 just working on the computer for a few hours. explanation.....WWW.Rush64.Com
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Part of California should form a new state: Far West Texas.
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California used to vote Republican, until Lefties moved to California cities from the Northeast, then—mirabile dictu—California voted overwhelmingly Democrat.
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Dust Bowlers were a deep shade of pinko in their populism too. They came from Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Kansas, Arkansas, Colorado and other states. Then they corrupted California. Now when those locusts have done their damage and move back where they came from, their homebody cousins complain about "Californians" coming and changing the local political landscape.
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If you want to see a contrast, go to San Diego and then cross to Mexico.

Same soil, same climate, same air...shockingly different systems.

But California, as Dr. Hanson has stated, has become Mexifornia. Many California towns now look like the hopeless Tijuana -- full of corruption, destitution, gangs and slums. Look at the cities of Bell and Cudahy in particular. Direct import of the failed, corrupt Mexican political system, complete with fearful residents cowering in terror while "elected" officials skim money from the till.

Come to think of it, it sounds like DC....
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"Come to think of it, it (California cities) sounds like DC...."--Koblog

As I pointed out elsewhere, California remains the state where America's future is already here.
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California is doomed by changing demographics. The simple fact is that there are significant race-based differences in intelligence. That is reflected in capability for work that allows a person to support himself and his family and to make a contribution to the well-being and advancement of society. California was able at one time to carry a population of Blacks (average IQ 85) and Latinos (average IQ 89) that were more taker than giver. They constituted a small enough portion of the population that while they were burdensome they could be supported. That day is long gone.

We have pretended for decades that inherent racial differences don't exist but that stance once taken in charity is now a cause for cynicism. No one believes that any longer including those who parrot it loudest. It is a puzzle what to do with this knowledge.

One thing is sure. We do not need anymore non-European Mexican or Central American immigrants in California. We can't afford them.
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The problem isn't race, the problem is culture.
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California, my native state and in spite of its vaunted "diversity," honestly doesn't want me or people like me living here.

Like many, many others, we will be out of here soon.
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California is fast becoming the world's remaining example of an Apartheid state. That's what you get from decades of increasingly Progressive policies and a now utter dominance of the Democratic Party.
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