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Interview: Diana West on the Cold War and American Betrayal

July 8th, 2013 - 12:00 am

Churchill and Stalin would come with their own foreign ministers, and you would think the American Secretary of State would be coming.  No.  It was Hopkins until Yalta.  It was always Hopkins.  And at Yalta, it was a man named Stettinius, one of our lesser-known Secretaries of State, who was very much considered a Hopkins selection and kind of a puppet.

So this was how powerful this man was.  He’s a controversial figure.  There is, in the intelligence historian community an ongoing debate over whether he was a conscious agent of Stalin’s or not.  I tried to pull together what I think is about the fullest dossier on Hopkins that I’ve seen anywhere.

I convinced myself, anyway, that he was, indeed a conscious agent.  But this is — this is a point I hope becomes a matter of debate.  It’s a very important point.  Because if Franklin Roosevelt’s top aide was an asset of some kind for Stalin, I think we have to re-examine everything about the Roosevelt administration, and again, start thinking of it — was this an extension of Soviet policy?

The White House was riddled; the State Department was riddled; the OSS was riddled.  I mean, we’re looking at what I decided at a certain point in my research, was actually something best to think of as a de facto occupation, certainly a strategic occupation of the halls of power by the Kremlin.

MR. DRISCOLL:  And compared to Harry Hopkins, there’s a much more obscure politician who appears about halfway through American Betrayal. Who was Martin Dies?

MS. WEST:  Martin Dies.  He is one of the heroes of the book.  As dark a tale as it is, there are those I think of as the truth tellers, or the truth seekers, either the great witnesses who come out of the Gulag or out of a cell, or just are good observers, and then the investigators in Congress or journalism.

Martin Dies was a Democratic representative from Texas who in 1938, opened up the House Un-American Activities Committee.  And what he was interested in doing was investigating, essentially, totalitarianism of all stripes, whether it was fascism, Nazism, Japanese spying, or Communism.

And fascinatingly enough, when he opened shop, he was actually quite good friends with Roosevelt at this time, Roosevelt tried to dissuade him from investigating Communism in this country.

And indeed, this became a bone of contention that actually broke up their friendship.  And later on, Roosevelt would essentially destroy his career when Dies set up to run for the Senate later one.

But Dies was able to uncover an awful lot of what was going on in terms of Communist subversion and fascist subversion as well in the run up to World War II.  When we became allies with Stalin, of course, that stopped.  But it was interesting to me — I first read about him in Stanton Evans’ book Blacklisted by History, which is a marvelous book, a revisionist’s look, if you will, at the life and times of Joe McCarthy — Senator Joe McCarthy.

And I was fascinated to read Stanton Evans say everything that was ever said about Joseph McCarthy, which would be in the ’50s, was first said about Martin Dies.  And indeed, he was smeared as a Red baiter, a — you know, a fantasizer, a fraud, what have you — all of this by the left, seeking to shut down his investigations of the Communist penetration that was rife.  I mean, it was happening regardless of how — we still look back on the era as, you know, in terms of witch hunts, which of course suggest fantasy.  They were real.  They were here.  We’ve got hundreds of them identified by now.

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COLD WAR - Just like in Vietnam, we won all the battles but lost the war thanks to people like the Clintons. I am only 46 years old, but when I was in high school (1980's) I was taught that communism and socialism (aka: USSR) were "enemies" of America and wanted to do us harm eventually replacing our form of government....not anymore...because the whole American education system is overrun with commies and socialists! It is NO ACCIDENT - They planned it that way. They could never defeat us militarily, so take advantage of weak-minded, selfish a$$holes and defeat us from within.

Remember BENGHAZI!
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Of course, McCarthy, as a senator, was not on HUAC.
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The HUAC was founded, as an an attack on fascists, by the only congressman known to be in the pay of Soviet intelligence, as per The Haunted Wood. It did continue afterwards to go after both Fascists and Communists.

From this alone I am having a hard time seeing the thesis. Both the US and the UK made a calculated decision to make a deal with the devil in order to forstall a more immediate threat to Western Europe, Nazi Germany. Germany did in fact take over Western Europe, and while it killed far fewer people, given time and opportuntity, the death rate is likely to have been much higher.

As Churchill joked, "if Hitler were to declare war on Hell, I would be inclined to put in a word for the Devil".
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"I mean, imagine if a nation decided to normalize relations — if we play a little historical scrabble — mind-scrabble — with a Hitler, after having killed six million of its own people — six million Jews, say?"

What would have stopped them? The nations of the world, particularly Great Britain, did everything they could to make sure as few Jews escaped the Holocaust as possible. Even after it was over and the pictures came out, we have Truman recorded as complaining about the Jews whining about the Holocaust. (Eisenhower was different; ironically their ME foreign policies were reversed.)

For that matter, if we could recognize Mao, we could recognize anyone.
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Ms West, when you go to write your next book, you might want to look up the Oneida Community. It's American. and socialist. The leftist rot starts early, and is woven in deeply.

When professors teach 'American history of regular people'- they use the book "Way of Duty" about a "plain Connecticut housewife." No, she's not. She's the grandmother of the Oneida founder. As well, some of her children and grandchildren are the first known atheists in America. It's a counter-history, a history of the left, and their families, not the "history of regular Americans."

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COLD WAR - Just like in Vietnam, we won all the battles but lost the war thanks to people like the Clintons. I am only 46 years old, but when I was in high school (1980's) I was taught that communism and socialism (aka: USSR) were "enemies" of America and wanted to do us harm eventually replacing our form of government....not anymore...because the whole American education system is overrun with commies and socialists! It is NO ACCIDENT - They planned it that way. They could never defeat us militarily, so take advantage of weak-minded, selfish a$$holes and defeat us from within.

Remember BENGHAZI!
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I went to grade school in the sixties and early severties, and one of my history books had a section entitled "American Impreialism". No kidding.
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Maxine Waters Confirms "Big Brother" Database 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIA1lQBqH1s
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From all indications outside of Dixie the Democrat establishment on the coasts and especially in Hollywood wanted to see Communism succeed so badly they could taste it in 1933. The infatuation of the American left with Communist ideology knew, and knows, no bounds.

FDR may have been playing pragmatic politics by recognizing the Soviet Union (the enemy of my enemy is my friend), but I'm convinced he would have loved to have had Stalin's autocratic power, and would have crushed his opponents in similar fashion had he dared.

It wasn't that many years later Khruhschev was pounding his shoe on a podium in NYC screaming "We will bury you!" I suspect his ghost is smiling at Obama's antics.
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The continuing aftermath of the betrayals are deep and beyond imaginable, except in ones nightmares. In fact, ever since Woodrow Wilson, the edifice of America has been steadily chipped away. And Obama Inc is the regime, in place, to complete said destruction aka "transformation" - http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/07/08/putin-obama-knee-deep-in-cooperative-efforts-russian-troops-training-on-u-s-soil-what-are-they-up-to-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/

Shiver America timbers. The entire west too!

Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/
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"I mean, imagine if a nation decided to normalize relations — if we play a little historical scrabble — mind-scrabble — with a Hitler, after having killed six million of its own people — six million Jews, say? It’s not thinkable."

Of course it's thinkable!

If Nazi Germany had won World War II, all the world's nations would have rushed to established diplomatic relations with it. In fact, Nazi Germany would have become the role model for the Arab Middle East.

This would hardly be the first time in history that a nation achieved diplomatic recognition despite a ghastly human rights record.

For you science-fiction fans: Read the "alternate history" novel "Fatherland," or see the made-for-TV movie of the same name. The time is 1960, 15 years after Nazi Germany won World War II. The U.S. and Nazi Germany are locked in a deadly Cold War-type stalemate. But everyone hopes that the upcoming summit between Hitler and President Kennedy will ease international tensions. And nobody cares to ask what really happened to those Jews anyway.
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"But everyone hopes that the upcoming summit between Hitler and President Kennedy will ease international tensions."

Bear in mind that the President Kennedy in this novel is President Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, and known sympathizer of the Nazis when he served as America's ambassador to Britain.

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